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*That* Geoff Keighley interview with Reggie 'My Body Is Not Ready' Fils-Aime
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Rated-Rsuperstar
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Reggie mentions that the console will be competitively priced. I don't see how that's possible. Even if Wii U launches somehow at $300 Sony and Microsoft will undoubtedly undercut them with a price drop.
People were expecting Nintendo's 2012 conference this year. Remember folks, there are almost always two E3s before a new console launches; the first E3 the new console is shown and their "vision" is explained. It's during the second E3 the year later that the explosion of games and videos and media and dates and prices are announced.Chao said:
RoninChaos
Member
The only thing I wish he asked was "Why didn't you bring this out in 2007?" Reggie can ignore or spin the questions, but despite the numbers the Wii was a failure as a game machine for repeat buyers. The only things people cared about being stuff like Wii Fit and Wii Sports were first party titles. The Wii suffered the same fate that the n64 did, and that the gamecube did. At least with the Wii U, they've got some sembalance of a real controller and the actually have the horse power to get more than just nintendo games on their system.
Infinite Justice
Member
as said before when it first aired Geoff went in hard and Reggie handled it pretty well (though he almost cracked with the "Geoff" LOL)
Guerrillas in the Mist
Member
commish said:
Should have said "1080p native, bitches!!! Let's see Uncharted 3 do that!"
Guerrillas in the Mist
Member
Names were taken?Ultrabum said:
Geoff is not gentle, I love that interviewing style, asking tough questions. Hahahaha, very amusing to watch.
Straight up, "You didn't reach that sales mark before having a conversation about the next system, eh, eh, EH?!"
Wow, he made Reggie freak out hahahahahaha
"Online? Online, onlin-"
"GEOFF!"
Straight up, "You didn't reach that sales mark before having a conversation about the next system, eh, eh, EH?!"
Wow, he made Reggie freak out hahahahahaha
"Online? Online, onlin-"
"GEOFF!"
RoninChaos
Member
The difference between then and now was that the developers aren't being screwed over by weird control schemes. The gamecube controller was ridiculous. The N64 was half way crazy, and the wiimote threw out normal controllers and alienated some folks, as well as developers with that waggle bullshit and with last generation hardware.GT Vespene said:
Developers told Nintendo, and Reggie even admitted it, that the Wii's specs were what prevented Nintendo from getting the same kind of content that the 360 and PS3 enjoyed. At least with the Wii U, the specs seem to be similar, and the controller is actually normal, besides having a screen in the middle of it so developers could reliably make multiplatform games, as opposed to what they did with Wii by making dumbed down titles. Or not making them at all, when you consider the amount of shovelware on the system.
Agreed that the questioning was in-line, but the interview went nowhere. An almost waste of ~20 minutes given how little I came away with comparatively had I not watched.
Reggie did his job by being evasive and predictable, and Geoff can only push so far without belaboring the point or harming either side's image. It was nice to -actually- see a push on Geoff's behalf, but the guard is strong.
At the least, Reggie's extremely guarded stance did give the impression that Nintendo has really no fucking clue how they are going to manage expectations of their consumer base in the short-term. Almost a "2011 and most of 2012 will be a wash, but we'll be viable against our competitors eventually! You know, as soon as we are given the green light to talk intelligently about this magical savior device!"
Reggie did his job by being evasive and predictable, and Geoff can only push so far without belaboring the point or harming either side's image. It was nice to -actually- see a push on Geoff's behalf, but the guard is strong.
At the least, Reggie's extremely guarded stance did give the impression that Nintendo has really no fucking clue how they are going to manage expectations of their consumer base in the short-term. Almost a "2011 and most of 2012 will be a wash, but we'll be viable against our competitors eventually! You know, as soon as we are given the green light to talk intelligently about this magical savior device!"
Reggie hamstringed by NCL was a big problem. Its obvious Nintendo plans to milk the next few days as Reggie admitted Online will be discussed etc by the end of the week.
Its smart on Nintendos part to a degree. New info everyday keeps them dominating headlines though it leads to alot of conclusion jumping on places like Gaf
Its smart on Nintendos part to a degree. New info everyday keeps them dominating headlines though it leads to alot of conclusion jumping on places like Gaf
Rated-Rsuperstar said:
Hmmm, but what is cost for you for Sony and Microsoft? Sony are leveraging 3D, which even with the Playstation TV will cost you $900 including the PS3. Microsoft consider the Kinetic part of the integral experience now, more so next year. That costs about $400 total in the US inc a 360 with a good HD, right? (inc 1 piece of software).
DaBuddaDa said:
I think the main problem is that Nintendo failed to sell the Wii U as an upgrade to the 360 and PS3, and that's what the Geoff Keighley audience wanted from it. They were too shy talking about the graphics and online capabilities of the system. Being told "this is a Wii for you" or that you'll play the same games out on 360/PS3 is useless; they should have sold the idea that those games will be clearly superior on their machine. It felt like they didn't want to admit the two features they've been ignoring for the past 5 years are important.
The new controller has potential to be a very interesting concept but today it just added confusion to what the system actually is. Calling it "Wii" doesn't help either, as we've seen with the 3DS ("I don't like 3D, why would I buy a 3DS?" is common even on GAF). I'm surprised Nintendo went for the same strategy again.
Riposte
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Shurs said:
It is not his duty. His job is to make something a lot of people want to watch which also happens to be about videogames. Just like the Oscars(as if 80% of actors presenting awards had anything interesting to say on Film) and every other award ceremony(including other videogame ceremonies) are bullshit extravaganzas(if that, some are just completely boring) where criticism is either vapid or takes a backseat. His audience can choose to not watch it if they feel "disrespected"(a lot of people on NeoGAF certainly didn't feel disrespected with the half-dozen game reveals they showed).
The fact you even hold it against him is what is really silly.
Then somehow get some money and airtime and fund your own petty pretensions about computer toys into something no one wants to watch. (OR go read some enthusiasts press, with non-ceremonious awards.)
Some of it was good but for the most part Geoff came off as pretty meh. A lot of the questions he was asking is obviously more strict upon NCL/Iwata's discretion than Reggie which everyone should understand. What he SHOULD have asked was where the fuck the Wii games were that aren't scheduled for release in North America.
Angry Fork
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Man I squirmed when he mentioned the 45 million thing, this interview was gold, Geoff trolling HARD at every turn. If only I remembered by twitter password i'd hit up geoff and tell him what a great job he did. And Reggie earning his paycheck as well by being the master of spin. If only Geoff wasn't a part of that shitty Spike awards crap he'd be much more respected.
DaBuddaDa said:
When Sony was in the same position - E3 2005, with the launch coming in fall the next year - they announced Killzone 2 (with CG trailer), Tekken 6, MGS4 and a bunch of other games. I think that's what people expected.
Say what you want about how it turned out, but during the same timeframe, Sony hyped THE FUCK out of the PS3. I still don't have an idea of what to expect from the Wii U except an interesting controller and ports of PS360 games.
Mortrialus
Banned
Riposte said:
The fact that you're so in love with his show and going to such lengths to defend it, a supposed award show that features such wonderful categories such as "Best Independent Game Fuel By Mountain Dew", is pathetic. The thing is nothing more than a huge corporate circle jerk. And yes, it his job to make sure his award show has at least some integrity and legitimacy, of which it currently has none.
Mr. E. Yis
Banned
Great questions, which is a rarity for Geoff. Usually he's a buttkisser who asks useless questions that can be answered by reading a press release. But as usual Geoff's attitude still makes him look like a prick, with his antagonizing side remarks and smirks.
Why can't we have someone who doesn't act like an asshole but still asks good questions? And where are the questions of Pikmin 3, The Last Story, and Xenoblade?
Why can't we have someone who doesn't act like an asshole but still asks good questions? And where are the questions of Pikmin 3, The Last Story, and Xenoblade?
Angry Fork
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Seeing as they took 5 years to put out Skyward Sword (and that's in SD), I can't imagine them putting out HD games in a timely fashion which take at least double the time/resources.gdt5016 said:
Riposte
Member
Mortrialus said:
I love it so much, I watched it for 5 minutes. (I am defending Geoff, btw.)
Which is most award ceremonies, if they are not clueless developer/twitter circle jerks. (Angry Birds: one of the best games of the year!!!)
Can you clearly describe what is wrong with their method of picking nominees and who wins it? I mean aside from the way it looks on TV and who sponsors it...
(Hey man, they nominated God Hand once, More than what GDC can say!!)
tiff said:
No, my problem in giving him the credit that SalsaShark gave him, is that I don't think he deserves it.
I don't care to speculate how Keighley looks at, or feels about, games.
Riposte said:
So, wait, I'm pretentious because I don't like the Spike VGAs? Are you serious?
The show is an embarrassment to gamers, that you compare it to the Oscars rather than, say, the MTV Movie Awards, shows that we're speaking two different languages here.
People tune in for the trailers. Because of that, he could easily try to make it into something more than an excuse to rub elbows with C-list celebrities.
As it stands, this is the image of a "gamer" based on what's presented on the Spike VGAs.
I don't get some of the gaffers here dumping on Geoff. He's not lobbing Reggie softballs.
He's asking some hard questions, some probing questions, some of which you can tell annoyed Reggie quite a bit. He's really roasting him on a few things.
Most of these bits (at e3) are supposed to be promotional spots, with the journalist maybe throwing in 2-3 probing Qs for a scoop. The terrirtory and topics are usually agreed upon before the interview. Certainly what's "off limits" is usually defined.
So I have give points to GK for showing some balls here. He kinda pushed Reggie a bit. Maybe it will be a while before Reggie agrees to another interview with them
He's asking some hard questions, some probing questions, some of which you can tell annoyed Reggie quite a bit. He's really roasting him on a few things.
Most of these bits (at e3) are supposed to be promotional spots, with the journalist maybe throwing in 2-3 probing Qs for a scoop. The terrirtory and topics are usually agreed upon before the interview. Certainly what's "off limits" is usually defined.
So I have give points to GK for showing some balls here. He kinda pushed Reggie a bit. Maybe it will be a while before Reggie agrees to another interview with them
Riposte
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gdt5016 said:
Which hurt them a lot, for every Zelda a dozen of similar and just as interesting games will come out before they release one. A big problem when those titles were PS3/360(/PC). Ideally this problem is solved with the WU, but that's who knows what will happen in the next three years. I think what Geoff was ultimately getting at is that Nintendo needs to be more of a "core" presence then they were on the Wii and Reggie was saying that 3rd parties were finally going to fill a void(which he also didn't want to admit existed at the same time lol).
User Name Here
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Hmmmmm.... Reggie didn't really say the controller only works in one room. He said it has to "talk to the console", which could mean anything.
BruceLeeRoy
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Mr. B Natural said:
So true. I was just thinking the same thing. I kept waiting for something crazy to happen and all I heard were really good questions and Reggie trying his best to dodge them.
Riposte
Member
Shurs said:
God damn! Why the fuck do you feel embarrassment at all? Extremely childish to even care about gamer image. Mind boggling. Just like all award shows, it is stupid because it is not about the awards or understanding of videogames, but rather the ceremony and using the attention it brings to hear celebrities say stupid jokes or tease products. Another stupid television program in a ocean of a thousands of stupid television programs.
As it stands, this is the image of a "gamer" based on what's presented on the Spike VGAs.
Also the image of:
Spike TV viewers
Americans
Privileged western world
And whoever else you want to generalize negatively because their TV is stoopid. Fking mountain dew man, they don't understand videogames.
MisterHero
Super Member
I want a Zelda that looks GOOD, not one that looks like Lord of the Rings or Uncharted.
They haven't shared their plans for Online doesn't mean they don't have plans.
These questions have been asked for years and I would agree if someone else found them annoying.
If Nintendo truly has an outside partner or business deal for things such graphics or online they aren't going to share it until both companies are ready, nevermind in the middle of one of many interviews. I would suggest that such important questions need to be asked from the actual decision maker for the company as a whole (Iwata, for example).
Now that I think about it, it would be interesting to see Iwata give an interview to an American reporter.
They haven't shared their plans for Online doesn't mean they don't have plans.
These questions have been asked for years and I would agree if someone else found them annoying.
If Nintendo truly has an outside partner or business deal for things such graphics or online they aren't going to share it until both companies are ready, nevermind in the middle of one of many interviews. I would suggest that such important questions need to be asked from the actual decision maker for the company as a whole (Iwata, for example).
Now that I think about it, it would be interesting to see Iwata give an interview to an American reporter.