RoadHazard
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Yeah... but you know that's not what we care about. Sure, nice combat mechanics are nice, but what about SWINGING? That's all we care about.
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The Amazing Spider-Man |OT| This is How you Shot Web
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Yeah... but you know that's not what we care about. Sure, nice combat mechanics are nice, but what about SWINGING? That's all we care about.
I don't think the moveset will be comparable in any way, this is very much batmans combat system with more acrobatic flair. Controls are pretty tight.
Just entered the city, swinging system isn't as bad as I thought. You can let go of the swing before he vaults up to reduce that insane altitude gain and keep powering down a street. Really good sense of speed at street level, combining that with web rush along buses and various objects is actually pretty fun.
RoadHazard
Gold Member
But... swinging... from... clouds...
Seriously, if the game had just had SM2's swinging mechanics (or something similar) I think I could have really loved it, because it doesn't look all that bad other than the cloud-swinging. But here we are, and they have decided to ruin a potentially great game through a shitty decision. Such a shame.
Is there anymore variation in the swinging itself? Or is it a simple one button swing. Also, thanks for doing this!
DimmuBurgerKing
Member
Not just you!
RoadHazard
Gold Member
Why does it have to be one or the other? Why can't they take SM2's web swinging into the next generation? They're too lazy, that's why. Or if that's not the case, I just don't understand what's going on. Why would anyone think swinging from thin air would be a better solution (except to just make it easier, which is a shitty and horrible excuse)? No. Such a shame.
HawksWinStanley
Member
Interesting. How does it compare to the Arkham games? edit: nevermind answered
And from the little you've played so far does controlling Spider-man seem fun?
DimmuBurgerKing
Member
Can you turn off button prompts for counters and dodges and the like? Combat in Arkham Asylum/City felt like one big QTE with the counter "warnings" turned on.
The Nature Roy
Member
Agreed. Difference between a purchase and a pass for me.
This would be such a great game I think if the swinging would be like in Spiderman 2. ;( And holy fuck at that loading time http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=djrPHbBmL1o#t=871s
HawksWinStanley
Member
I wouldn't call them QTEs at all. You still have full control of your character.
And besides, it actually makes sense in this game seeing as how his spider sense is one of Spider-man's primary powers.
The actual "hey idiot, press triangle to dodge" bits seem to go away after the first mission it so but the PRESS R1 to web attack or whatever it is seems to always be there. There is 0 variation or depth to the swing system. You're either holding R2 or you're web rushing. Doing what I'm doing (releasing R2 before the upward arc) is clearly not intended as it offers no linked acrobatic movement other than the same canned roll over and over. Sorry webheads.
DimmuBurgerKing
Member
The IGN video I saw could've just been a demo/tutorial level, but I was seeing button prompts for everything: "Counter!" "Dodge!" "Signature Move!" and so on. It struck me as more than a little overkill. Again, though, that could just be a tutorial.
Edit: Oh, good, just a beginning tutorial. Thanks, Doc! The lazy swinging is a bit disappointing, but I'm going to at least give it a rental before I judge the overall package.
MetalGuardian
Banned
Welp...not buying it.
KeioSquad2
Member
I think its so funny that people wont buy a spiderman game cause of "cloud swinging". When Neversoft released the best spiderman game for ps1 no one coplained about the swinging and that game was universally hailed as a great game. When spiderman came out for ps2 that game was also fun and noone complained about it. Just like comics, there is a suspension of disbelief so that you can relate to the character doing these feats that defy all reality. All video games not grounded in realism do it, so why can't this game? I understand that people want a swinging simulator, but that is not the only thing that makes a spiderman game, its also about the story and general game play. If you think spiderman is only about swinging then go outside and tie a rope to a tree and see how far that gets you....I bet you won't be asking for realism then...
As far as that being the only good game mechanic for an old ass game, well thats true, but spiderman 2 sucked.......face it.
As far as that being the only good game mechanic for an old ass game, well thats true, but spiderman 2 sucked.......face it.
Dacvak
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Ooo, that looks pretty good. Does it have the "turbo" button S2 had, where you press it to boost yourself at the apex of a swing? What about a charge jump? If so, I think I'm gonna grab that.
By the way, I just downloaded and played through the demo of Spider-Man on the 3DS. It's all indoors, but I have to say, it's not too bad. Good clean graphics, fantastic animations, and decent gameplay. It wasn't great, but it was pretty fun. I'm not sure if it has an open world like the console games, but if it does, that might be worth it to buy or at least check out. 7/10 material, from what I played. Solid.
The big problem isn't cloud swinging. It's the lack of momentum, floaty physics, and lack of variation/control.
Swinging complaints aside the first boss battle makes you feel more like Spiderman than in previous games I've played. Very epic and cinematic.
Also Controls L2 could have been used as a turbo or web zip if pressed with R2, anything to add depth to the locomotion but no. It has to be a dedicated camera?
Swinging complaints aside the first boss battle makes you feel more like Spiderman than in previous games I've played. Very epic and cinematic.
Also Controls L2 could have been used as a turbo or web zip if pressed with R2, anything to add depth to the locomotion but no. It has to be a dedicated camera?
Not open world? That's... disappointing considering even the mobile version is.
On another note, how was the swinging in Ultimate Spider-Man? I don't remember exactly, but I do remember being more fond of that game than Spider-Man 2 (which I also liked).
Ultimate I really enjoyed, good swing system as well.
HawksWinStanley
Member
Bingo.
The ability to use your momentum in Spider-Man 2, shoot web from both hands and just hanging between two buildings like a Spider-Jesus, and all the great animations during web transitions just gave you the sense that they thought of every detail they could to add to the fun of swinging.
Now instead of a great gameplay element it's just a boring form of transportation.
It's less the fact that you can swing from clouds and more what that implies - the swinging is essentially devoid of any actual gameplay mechanics like choosing what to swing from, momentum, etc.
I saw the game at E3 and my impression was it was hard to tell what the actual "game" part of the game was. From what I saw the swinging may as well have just been a jetpack, and one of the missions was literally press RB 4 times and Y and B twice each to beat it. It was like one long QTE.
Dacvak
No one shall be brought before our LORD David Bowie without the true and secret knowledge of the Photoshop. For in that time, so shall He appear.
The demo wasn't open world. I have no idea about the actual game.
I hope the Miles Morales Spidey suit is in the game
Xander51
Member
I love you too SalsaShark.
Ah well. This is how I expected the swinging mechanics to turn out.
At least the combat is solid, right? Have you collected any comic books yet?
DimmuBurgerKing
Member
I just want the classic Spidey suit. It's somewhere in there, right?
Combat is solid. Comic book collecting is a nice distraction I suppose. The in your face press R1 to collect comic book prompt every 4 seconds while swinging will drive you a little mad though.
Stan Lee is none-too pleased about being included as a playable character in the game.
*side-note - For a guy who's turning 90 at the end of this year, he seems to be in really good health.
*side-note - For a guy who's turning 90 at the end of this year, he seems to be in really good health.
Net_Wrecker
Member
Stan Lee's amazing :lol @ "Shut the world off, I need time to recover."
DimmuBurgerKing
Member
He's.. he's right. We're not worthy. D:
Ladies and gentlemen, Stan "The Man" Lee.
Dacvak
No one shall be brought before our LORD David Bowie without the true and secret knowledge of the Photoshop. For in that time, so shall He appear.
Holy crap, he's almost freaking 90? I can't even comprehend someone being that lively and being 90
Then again, I have a really warped view of age/lifespan after getting the ol' leukemia.
Good for him. It honestly makes me want to buy this game more knowing that I could play as THE Stan Lee.
Gasp! Have people done this with other Spidey games?
Bu tell us how you really feel.
Snapshot King
Member
Cloud swinging? Again? Great. Yet another unpurchased spider man game. Oh well.
Edit: At least Gravity Rush kind of recaptured that Spidey 2 feeling. Movement in that game is fantastic.
Edit: At least Gravity Rush kind of recaptured that Spidey 2 feeling. Movement in that game is fantastic.
Dacvak
No one shall be brought before our LORD David Bowie without the true and secret knowledge of the Photoshop. For in that time, so shall He appear.
Preorder bonus only? Say it ain't so!
That, right there, would kill my purchase.
He should be available for purchase on release because the Rhino gamestop poster says 'Exclusive until 6/26' so I imagine Stan's the same way.
whatevermort
Member
Hang on. So you would spend $60 on a game, but only if you got to play as Stan Lee?
That's right, true believers!
Dacvak
No one shall be brought before our LORD David Bowie without the true and secret knowledge of the Photoshop. For in that time, so shall He appear.
Nah, it's a personal thing. I'm against pushy per-order bonuses that punish average consumers. Usually I try to avoid them as a way to vote with my wallet on something I don't agree with. Some might see it as stupid, but I think it's a destructive trend in gaming, and I try not to support games/publishers that do it.
If Stan Lee is unlockable, that'd be cool with me. If he's a pre-order bonus for GameStop or something, I'll probably pass on the game entirely.
Again, it may be stupid, but as a consumer I can only vote with my wallet on things I don't agree with.
Edit: To answer your question in the other direction - yes - having Stan lee as a playable character would be awesome and influence me enough to potentially buy the game. Stan Lee is the man. =P
whatevermort
Member
I totally agree, incidentally, but in general I don't care about skins. Gameplay? Levels? Awful thing to do. Skins and stuff... Meh. LEss bothered.
MetalGuardian
Banned
All the bullshit? As in, there is lots more bullshit than just the awful swinging?
Yeah, what bullshit exactly? OK, I guess I care about more than just if you're having fun.
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