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The Black Culture Thread |OT3| Lighten Up
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Basically all videogame stories are mediocre or suck.
BlackGhost
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Trailer really impressed me
Black Republican
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been to any of those japanese reggae places? any good
Yeah but Japanese can make something so simple turn into full shit.
Man, I really need to find a new side job.
Currently, I'm a part-time technical writer for a company in the Bay Area, part-time resume reviewer/editor for a company in the Bay Area, and soon to be substitute teacher, but the job in question I want to drop is more of a side hustle than an actual paid position.
I make funeral programs for families. My Uncle owns a funeral home and he refers people to me, so I have plenty of contacts, but consistently dealing with grieving families can be such a downer at times. People breaking down crying in front of you, seeing young people go before their time, reading about people's wonderful lives only to know that they've passed, etc. Shit's hard sometimes, but it's decent money and these school loans aren't going to pay themselves.
I'm still looking for an actual full time job, but between the two part time jobs I'm working, and the funeral program stuff, I'm making decent bank and I'm definitely working less than 40 hours a week. Don't know if I'll be able to find anything comparable.
Currently, I'm a part-time technical writer for a company in the Bay Area, part-time resume reviewer/editor for a company in the Bay Area, and soon to be substitute teacher, but the job in question I want to drop is more of a side hustle than an actual paid position.
I make funeral programs for families. My Uncle owns a funeral home and he refers people to me, so I have plenty of contacts, but consistently dealing with grieving families can be such a downer at times. People breaking down crying in front of you, seeing young people go before their time, reading about people's wonderful lives only to know that they've passed, etc. Shit's hard sometimes, but it's decent money and these school loans aren't going to pay themselves.
I'm still looking for an actual full time job, but between the two part time jobs I'm working, and the funeral program stuff, I'm making decent bank and I'm definitely working less than 40 hours a week. Don't know if I'll be able to find anything comparable.
Rayven_king
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I'm gonna attempt to hold out till the nextgen consoles get announced
PartTimeWarrior
Banned
Good games, Onee-Mic
What I learned today:
Teddie is random as fuck
Ahkihiko mirror matches are the best thing ever
Mitsuru is still the queen
And Kanji is Kanji ;_;
Charlene is still my favorite R&B song, hands down
What I learned today:
Teddie is random as fuck
Ahkihiko mirror matches are the best thing ever
Mitsuru is still the queen
And Kanji is Kanji ;_;
Charlene is still my favorite R&B song, hands down
Dreams-Visions
Member
SOLD
Bow down to da Queen PartTime.
I reallly wanna main Aki, dude is the king of swag in p4a.
eternaLightness
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Just started season 3 of The Wire and liking it so far.
Man, I wish I could experience that show for the first time again.
PartTimeWarrior
Banned
A MAN GOTTA HAVE A CODE
I can't speak for 2 and 3 but xenosaga was meh as fuck. The mechs were worthless too. Jr. Seemed like he may have been an interesting character, but now I guess I'll never know since the back story was reserved for the followups I assume.
Oldschoolgamer
The physical form of blasphemy
Japan is no worse than the West is, when it comes to dialogue and story. The levels of terrible are exactly the same.
The Walking Dead is probably one of the few recent exceptions to the videogame stories being ass "rule".
Dunno if you saw it, but: R&B is Coming Back Strong
Future PhaZe
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R&B has been strong since Drake arrived on the scene guys
Stop playin
I guess we'll have to agree to disagree. Japan devs definitely have a proclivity for shitty storytelling and dialogue. That goes for my beloved mgs series as well.
PartTimeWarrior
Banned
RIP THQ
They both have shitty storytelling and dialogue, but at least a lot of the West's shitty stories are somewhat rooted within reality and adhere to basic narrative conventions. Japan just doesn't give a fuck sometimes, and a lot of the times it's just.... no.
Agreed.
Oldschoolgamer
The physical form of blasphemy
I'm fine with certain ideas taking priority over conventional narrative and plot construction, the same way I don't mind it in films.
The Faceless Master
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Yes, that I what I was trying to say.
Professor Beef
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I have a feeling Nintendo is gonna botch Wind Waker HD badly. I can already smell the forced waggle controls. 
If anything, Brawl's godawful netplay made people play locally MORE. Not a single person I know who still plays Brawl will touch online willingly unless the only friend they know who plays lives further than driving distance.
If anything, Brawl's godawful netplay made people play locally MORE. Not a single person I know who still plays Brawl will touch online willingly unless the only friend they know who plays lives further than driving distance.
I think that's the biggest difference between Western and Japanese games. Western games are attempting to mimic the cinematic experience, all the way down to succumbing to established film tropes and embodying the 3-Act structure. Japan does this a lot of the time, but are a lot more likely to at times. For example, I can imagine stuff like Halo or The Witcher 2 transitioning over to the silver screen without alteration. It may not be good, but it's narrative structure and flow is relatively in line with that of a traditional film. On the flip side, this same scenario is not true for A LOT of Japanese games. They're simply too out there, convoluted and narratively disjointed for that 1:1 transition to be possible. Their stories are very much a "video game story," an entirely different form of story telling, created for the sole purpose of consumption within a video game space.
That's not necessarily a bad thing, but as a film student and avid book reader, I find myself enjoying the traditional aspects of Western game storytelling. But then again, I rarely find any game's narrative to be legitimately great, and have always valued game play over story. So I definitely enjoy the Japanese approach to video games in that regard.
I do love Killer 7! Suda bought himself so much good will with that game that I find myself dropping bank on his games regardless of how much I've disliked his output since Killer 7....
Oldschoolgamer
The physical form of blasphemy
Curious. What Japanese games are you referring to?
soundscream
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PartTimeWarrior
Banned
My President is Black
My Lambo turns into a fighting robot
My Lambo turns into a fighting robot
Future PhaZe
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local gaming lol
Haven't done it since Halo 2.
I've got a better chance of pulling a white girl at a nascar event than I do of getting someone to want to play Smash Bros.
I'm obviously using blanket statements for the sake of debate, but pretty much any Japanese game I can think of, especially JRPGs.
Whenever I think of a legitimately good video game story, whose narrative is good enough to elevate game play or even shroud deficiencies, my mind instantly gravitates towards the West's output.
Stuff like Planescape Torment, Baldur's Gate, Max Payne, Tim Schafer/Dave Grossman's Lucas Art games, The Witcher 1 & 2, Deus Ex, Vampire: The Masquerade, The Walking Dead, Half-Life series, Alan Wake, Soul Reaver, System Shock II, some of the Elder Scrolls series, etc.
Those games have stories that I could find myself consuming if the gameplay were stripped away and I were forced to experience it in novel, comic or film form. There just aren't many Japanese video game narratives where I could make that same claim. They exist, but not at nearly the numbers IMO. I love Xenogears, Chrono Trigger, Okami, Ocarina of Time, etc. but those are great complimentary stories to a video game, and not necessarily representative of narratives that are sound in their own right. As I said, having a distinction between video game story telling and other forms of storytelling is not necessarily a bad thing, but it's definitely a tangible distinction between Western and Japanese philosophies when it comes to constructing games.
Basically, I typically leave Japanese games thinking "Damn, that was a great fucking game," and never "Damn, that game had some brilliant story telling!" I enjoy the experience as a whole but the narrative definitely takes a back seat to the game play which is front and center. On the flip side, I've come away from Western games thinking "Jesus Christ, that story was actually pretty damn good. I can see that making a decent film if handled correctly." Hell, there are many Western games where sound story telling propels an otherwise mediocre experience in terms of graphics and game play.
soundscream
Member
I had one day 1 fall back son!
I can't, I felt lonely up in here with all these sony ponies or xboxer's. So then what do you have on it?
soundscream
Member
I support all systems not named Vita. I have Zombi U, I'm looking forward to Rayman and Aliens just for the motion tracker on the game pad.
Future PhaZe
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black people and nintendo hard ons is just such a weird concept for me to get my head around
PartTimeWarrior
Banned
The color of my skin doesn't decide what games I enjoy...
GhettoGamer
Member
Shit I had a N64 back in the day, I was "dat nigga" back then. I still remember a kid from around the block tried to steal my clear controller me and my brother beat the brakes off him lol
its gonna have to be something big to make me drop cash on a wii u
Black Republican
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how long before, "she let her win because she's black"lolz
eternaLightness
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Honestly, Bayonetta 2 would make me get a Wii U.
The Faceless Master
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i finished Mace Griffin: Bounty Hunter mainly because of the story.
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