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I kind of feel the opposite. I feel like the extremely high quality of the first hour or so of BB actually lessens the quality of the second half. I lose focus once Bruce returns to Gotham. The League of Shadows heat-beam thing just did nothing for me.

 

[DMczaf]

Watching Dark Knight again right now.

So good.

It's making me excited for 3 regardless of who or what is in it.

The Dark Knight and Lethal Weapon back to back

TNT is Awesome Night

 

[SpeedingUptoStop]

Though the final scene with Dent and Gordon is still probably Nolan's most - literally speaking, dread-full scene as it still packs quite an emotional, foreboding punch.

God, that scene really is exhausting. Nolan is so evil for pulling off that shit so well.

 

[DMczaf]

God, that scene really is exhausting. Nolan is so evil for pulling off that shit so well.

While watching it, tell yourself "This movie has kids toys and merchandise."

Point a gun at a kid's head? Toys and PG-13!

 

[SpeedingUptoStop]

While watching it, tell yourself "This movie has kids toys and merchandise."

Point a gun at a kid's head? Toys and PG-13!

Psh, still doesn't beat PotC3, where a child is hung by a noose in the first scene.

Everytime I see that with friends, I lean over to someone and exclaim "THIS IS A DISNEY MOVIE!"

 

[Lionel Mandrake]

While watching it, tell yourself "This movie has kids toys and merchandise."

Point a gun at a kid's head? Toys and PG-13!

At my local Toys R Us, my friends and I were just sort of looking around the place when we stumbled onto the action figure aisle. They have the GI Joes, the Spider-Mans, the Batmans, and mixed throughout, without any sign of separation were the Watchmen figures. Obviously they were for collectors, and not kids, but you wouldn't know the difference if you weren't familiar with the sources.

 

[SketchTheArtist]

BB is still the better movie. The script is so tight, the pacing so good and the character motivations and themes so much more realized.

Katie Holmes character served absolutely no purpose.

 

[Discotheque]

Plus I kinda lose interest after he becomes Batman. Definitely isn't holding up well for me that one.

 

[Koodo]

Katie Holmes character served absolutely no purpose.

Are you sure it was the character or Katie Holmes?

Because Katie Holmes generally doesn't serve any purpose in anything.

 

[Lebron]

BB is still the better movie. The script is so tight, the pacing so good and the character motivations and themes so much more realized.

Basically

 

[Dead]

Rewatched Batman Begins and TDK over the last two days.

BB is still the better movie. The script is so tight, the pacing so good and the character motivations and themes so much more realized.

TDK I had to stop halfway through because on rewatch its just not as compelling. Though the final scene with Dent and Gordon is still probably Nolan's most - literally speaking, dread-full scene as it still packs quite an emotional, foreboding punch.

The score in the Dent/Gordon showdown is magnificent. So creepy and foreboding.

 

[Blader]

How reliable/legit is Batman-on-film? Because they're implying Robin Williams as Hugo Strange for DKR, and a number of sites are treating this as newsworthy.

Rewatched Batman Begins and TDK over the last two days.

BB is still the better movie. The script is so tight, the pacing so good and the character motivations and themes so much more realized.

TDK I had to stop halfway through because on rewatch its just not as compelling. Though the final scene with Dent and Gordon is still probably Nolan's most - literally speaking, dread-full scene as it still packs quite an emotional, foreboding punch.

Don't you berate other people for doing this? :lol

 

[Ninja Scooter]

Just rewatched the Bane episode of Batman TAS and he really comes across as a super smart version of Kraven. I think the stupid appearance that makes him look like a boss character from Double Dragon really throws people off. I was just imagining if in the movie they basically turned him into the Predator and he stalks Batman around the city, studying his techniques before making his move.

 

[raphier]

I god hope there aren't that many villains, a la Spiderman 3. Hugo strange rumor must not be true, please.

 

[mrkgoo]

Don't you berate other people for doing this? :lol

Oh fuck don't get me started. Having that fucking light flash in your eyes because some people can't go 5 goddamn minutes without checking their phone. Jesus.

Also, I'm only talking about the first time you watch a movie. Pausing and stuff during re-watches are okay imo, but when you're watching something for the first time I find it pretty goddamn annoying.

I actually hate it more on the times where I've seen the movie in question but the person I'm watching with hasn't. So I KNOW what they're obviously missing. I remember I was watching Bladerunner once with a friend who hadn't seen it.

He decided that he needed to call somebody during Roy Batty's speech so he paused it and resumed the movie 15 minutes later.

- c/o Scullibundo Defence Force.

 

[effzee]

How reliable/legit is Batman-on-film? Because they're implying Robin Williams as Hugo Strange for DKR, and a number of sites are treating this as newsworthy.

Hm I think they are reliable but I am sure DM could confirm more. Interesting if he is cast because it will be another actor he has worked with coming back.

 

[Ninja Scooter]

if they would have cast Robin Williams I don't see any reason why it wouldn't have been announced when the Catwoman/Bane castings were announced.

 

[SCULLIBUNDO]

- c/o Scullibundo Defence Force.

Cheers. Its okay to pause or cut in half a movie if you've already seen it. I've seen TDK more than 10 times already and knowing exactly what is coming yet still having the desire to stick around is a testament to how engrossing a film's narrative is. Like Batman Begins. I enjoyed the first couple of rewatches of TDK when I first got it on blu, but there is just so much unnecessary fluff.

 

[Messypandas]

I'm hoping the Dent/Gordon scene has established the tone for the third movie. I don't see Bane as much as a attention whore/media terrorist as Joker was. He's probably not going to play games and try to mindfuck Gotham, Batman will probably be the only thing on his mind. Hoping this keeps it a more personal movie. Dent wanting to drive Gordon crazy was really brutal, hope it continues like that.

 

[SCULLIBUNDO]

All I know is that Wayne Manor and the batcave better be back in the film.

 

[DMczaf]

Hm I think they are reliable but I am sure DM could confirm more. Interesting if he is cast because it will be another actor he has worked with coming back.

They are probably the most reliable site for Batman news outside of Deadline and the LA Times. They do get some stuff wrong, but it's been right just as many times. Just recently he nailed Hardy being Bane and Catwoman being a villain, and he's been invited to Batman press events by the producers.

 

[Yousefb]

I'm hoping the Dent/Gordon scene has established the tone for the third movie. I don't see Bane as much as a attention whore/media terrorist as Joker was. He's probably not going to play games and try to mindfuck Gotham, Batman will probably be the only thing on his mind. Hoping this keeps it a more personal movie. Dent wanting to drive Gordon crazy was really brutal, hope it continues like that.

I agree with this my good man.

 

[Platy]

How reliable/legit is Batman-on-film? Because they're implying Robin Williams as Hugo Strange for DKR, and a number of sites are treating this as newsworthy.

While i would LOVE that casting.... i just can't take a site so craply designed as a reliable source =P

if they would have cast Robin Williams I don't see any reason why it wouldn't have been announced when the Catwoman/Bane castings were announced.

2 reasons

1-They only signed him now
2-His presence is a spoiler ... like he is the reason behind bane doing "bane" things to batman

 

[RustyNails]

I rewatched TDK again on TNT. So what I'm trying to understand is why are Arkham inmates on the ferry all of a sudden thugs with golden hearts? Because in Batman Begins we are supposed to think of them as rapists, thugs and murderers (when they are released in the narrows). Cognitive dissonance.

 

[Blader]

I rewatched TDK again on TNT. So what I'm trying to understand is why are Arkham inmates on the ferry all of a sudden thugs with golden hearts? Because in Batman Begins we are supposed to think of them as rapists, thugs and murderers (when they are released in the narrows). Cognitive dissonance.

One guy wanting to die = ship full of thugs with golden hearts?

Everyone else wanted to push the button.

 

[Dead]

lulz. If true, Guy Pierce am cry

 

[suaveric]

While i would LOVE that casting.... i just can't take a site so craply designed as a reliable source =P




2 reasons

1-They only signed him now
2-His presence is a spoiler ... like he is the reason behind bane doing "bane" things to batman

Their website is stuck in 1998, but they are pretty reliable when it comes to rumors.

 

[LaserBuddha]

I rewatched TDK again on TNT. So what I'm trying to understand is why are Arkham inmates on the ferry all of a sudden thugs with golden hearts? Because in Batman Begins we are supposed to think of them as rapists, thugs and murderers (when they are released in the narrows). Cognitive dissonance.

Because every crime worthy of jail time brings with it a willingness to murder dozens or hundreds of other people to save oneself, and the inability to be moved by the other boat's obvious unwillingness to do the same?

Or to make it even easier, because every single inmate is the same?

How's that for cognitive dissonance?

 

[RustyNails]

lulz. If true, Guy Pierce am cry

Actually Guy Pearce is doing pretty good for himself. He needs no Nolan love.

Animal Kingdom - 97% (um...holy fuck?!)
King's Speech - 95%

And The Proposition was my favorite movie of 2005.

 

[Platy]

Their website is stuck in 1998, but they are pretty reliable when it comes to rumors.

Hmm .. interesting

Also, the news is only on the twitter ... and a few posts back it says

"No Nolan ??? WTF ?"

Spoiler

Probably based on oscar nominees ... but still ... dangerous to take twitters outside context

 

[smokeymicpot]

Actually Guy Pearce is doing pretty good for himself. He needs no Nolan love.

Animal Kingdom - 97% (um...holy fuck?!)
King's Speech - 95%

And The Proposition was my favorite movie of 2005.

I think he was in The Hurt Locker for a bit too.

 

[jett]

Rumor is it Guy Pearce once critiqued Nolan on his choice of clothing.

 

[DMczaf]

Rumor is it Guy Pearce once critiqued Nolan on his choice of clothing.

"Hey Chris, why not wear some jeans or a t-shirt?"

 

[V_Ben]

Robin Williams as strange would be downright inspired. Hope it turns out to be true...

 

[Nappuccino]

I think he was in The Hurt Locker for a bit too.

For about 3-4 min.

 

[SpeedingUptoStop]

Robin Williams?

Guy Pierce.

 

[rollingstart]

Guy Pierce plays a grown up version of that kid from Batman Begins. He grew up fast.

 

[suaveric]

Robin Williams would fit with Nolan's MO, they have worked together before.

 

[ezekial45]

Robin Williams as strange would be downright inspired. Hope it turns out to be true...

Yeah, i'd be down for it too. People seriously underestimate RW's range and subtlety in his dramatic roles. Just watch One Hour Photo, Insomnia, and (for great measure) World's Greatest Dad.

 

[V_Ben]

Yeah, i'd be down for it too. People seriously underestimate RW's range and subtlety in his dramatic roles. Just watch One Hour Photo, Insomnia, and (for great measure) World's Greatest Dad.

He is a wonderful dramatic actor. People often just see a gurning idiot when they think of him

 

[RBelong2Us]

Creepy and Dark Comedy Robin Williams is awesome, dude is always pretty legit in those roles. Those two categories would be combined for Strange......I hope it is.

 

[WillyFive]

He already looks like Robin Williams.

In fact:

He might as well be him.

 

[VistraNorrez]

TDK is about Batman and Joker's war over Gotham, with Dent representing Gotham. You lose Dent's arc, you lose what the conflict is about; it becomes too abstract and you don't see any direct consequences of Batman and Joker's actions.

I don't know what you mean by "Batman having to choose" is the core of the film. Choose what?

Two-Face alone is not a good enough character to justify his own movie. The idea of Two-Face works best as the third act of a character arc, rather than a completely separate villain in a separate movie.

Ending the movie with Dent just turning into Two-Face, and not actually dealing with the ramifications of that right then and there, also just completely leaves TDK both narratively and thematically unresolved.

The problem with Dent was his transparent arc. In his first scene you can already tell he will be corrupted. You know it's going to have something to do with Rachel, too (who really is such a poorly done character). It came off as very mechanical, which is in contrast to Joker's arc which was so organic. More time needed to be dedicated to Dent's story. Which many people, of course, think means it should have it's own movie. What should've been done is have to have Dent in a smaller role in BB. It would've developed Rachel and Dent much better, too. They could've gotten to Two-face slightly earlier in TDK and developed that story better.

 

[WillyFive]

The Joker had an arc? He moved other people's arcs along, but I didn't notice if he had an arc.

 

[VistraNorrez]

The Joker had an arc? He moved other people's arcs along, but I didn't notice if he had an arc.

Well more of a story, he clearly didn't change much, but we did learn about him and his plans. He starts as an apparent thief and we find out about his goal to corrupt Gotham city and bust Batman's balls. So while he didn't change much our perception of him did.

Whatever it was he still felt far more like a real person than Dent.

 

[DMczaf]

Joker has no arc.

Like Nolan said, he's the shark in Jaws.

 

[Ninja Scooter]

Joker has no arc.

Like Nolan said, he's the shark in Jaws.

So in Batman 4 Joker will follow Alfred to Jamaica?

 

[smokeymicpot]

For about 3-4 min.

I said for a bit.

 

[DMczaf]

So in Batman 4 Joker will follow Alfred to Jamaica?

He's been asking for it since he was banging Brody's wife

 

[Hex]

Robin Williams needs to stay the fuck away from any Batman movie or even better any movie that I want to see even a tiny bit.