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krameriffic · Nov 10, 2011

TheExodu5 said:
I noticed an issue using the 360 pad on PC.

Look straight up.

Time how long it takes to look straight down. Takes 4-5 seconds.
Time how long it takes to look straight up. Takes about half that time.

Why on Earth can I look down faster than I can look up?

A lot of people on the Bethesda forum are complaining about the vertical and horizontal mouse sensitivities being F-ed up. Wouldn't surprise me to learn that it was connected to this even with a controller.

Truant · Nov 10, 2011

Textures issues are present on PC as well, according to several people on the beth and steam forums.

First Children · Nov 10, 2011

Tallshortman said:
That's the equivalent of a GTX 9800 so I would say likely no.

If the GTX 9800 is the 512mb, 3 years old gpu i'm seeing on the internet, then it's not similar to that.
It's a 1.5GB video card.

Sutton Dagger · Nov 10, 2011

Gvaz said:
No hotkeys, they have favorites instead. It's shitty.

So it takes 2-3 seconds to swap weapons/magic etc using a 360 controller but that is considered normal? Why the hell did they get rid of the 8 way d-pad selection used in Oblivion, it worked so much better.

So If I use a bow and shoot an enemy, I have to pause the game by going into the favourites menu to change to some close range weapons...this is frustrating.

tch · Nov 10, 2011

Will my HD4850 be able to pull off decent medium settings?

Gvaz · Nov 10, 2011

Sutton Dagger said:
So it takes 2-3 seconds to swap weapons/magic etc using a 360 controller but that is considered normal? Why the hell did they get rid of the 8 way d-pad selection used in Oblivion, it worked so much better.

So If I use a bow and shoot an enemy, I have to pause the game by going into the favourites menu to change to some close range weapons...this is frustrating.

I'm glad at least it's not just people using the keyboard who're having issues.

krameriffic · Nov 10, 2011

Truant said:
Textures issues are present on PC as well, according to several people on the beth and steam forums.

Wait, the Steam forums are working for you?

Haunted · Nov 10, 2011

Getting a Bethesda game on day 1, lol.

Just wait for the first 3-4 patches to hit, by then the modding community has stepped up and fixed the rest, as well as make the UI usable.

Same as always, fellas.

Truant · Nov 10, 2011

krameriffic said:
Wait, the Steam forums are working for you?

Sorry, I misread my 1000x FF tabs. Steam forums are down for me, as well.

Dalauz · Nov 10, 2011

i5 2500k @3.74 ghz

560 TI (evga, stock)

60 rock solid fps

Wallach · Nov 10, 2011

Gvaz said:
No hotkeys, they have favorites instead. It's shitty.

There are hotkeys and favorites.

Gvaz · Nov 10, 2011

Where? There's no hotbar or anything.

Wallach · Nov 10, 2011

Gvaz said:
Where? There's no hotbar or anything.

Hit Q, highlight a thing, then push the number you want to assign it to.

Labombadog · Nov 10, 2011

I just upgraded my cpu and ram. Went from an old core2duo 3.2ghz (e6600) to an i5 2500k (plan to OC once I get my h60 cooler). 6gb ram to 16 mothafuckin gb of ram. My only worry now is my gpu which is a 4850. Think I will be able to run this on most high settings on a 1280x1024 res?

I do plan to upgrade my GPU either by a great sale coming up on black friday/cyber monday or just waiting for the next gen of cards.

NIN90 · Nov 10, 2011

tch · Nov 10, 2011

Labombadog said:
I just upgraded my cpu and ram. Went from an old core2duo 3.2ghz (e6600) to an i5 2500k (plan to OC once I get my h60 cooler). 6gb ram to 16 mothafuckin gb of ram. My only worry now is my gpu which is a 4850. Think I will be able to run this on most high settings on a 1280x1024 res?

I also have a 4850 (but a worse CPU) and am wondering what it can pull off

Dmax3901 · Nov 10, 2011

Wallach said:
Hit Q, highlight a thing, then push the number you want to assign it to.

Yeah, it takes a while to get used to, but it works in the end. I'm enjoying the fuck out of the game yo.

Labombadog · Nov 10, 2011

tch said:
I also have a 4850 (but a worse CPU) and am wondering what it can pull off

Which cpu?

sublime085 · Nov 10, 2011

tch said:
Will my HD4850 be able to pull off decent medium settings?

I'm also wondering. I have a 1GB 4850.

edit: I have a phenom II x4 945 @3.0 ghz

TheExodu5 · Nov 10, 2011

What the hell? I'm passed the beginning tutorial dungeon and just got to the open outdoors...and the mouse seems better. Am I just imagining things? The lag seems to be gone.

I'm probably just adapting to it or something...

Dmax3901 · Nov 10, 2011

TheExodu5 said:
What the hell? I'm passed the beginning tutorial dungeon and just got to the open outdoors...and the mouse seems better. Am I just imagining things? The lag seems to be gone.

I'm probably just adapting to it or something...

Could be something to do with the slightly on rails nature of the intro?

Reuenthal · Nov 10, 2011

I am playing 50-60 FPS anywhere with my 9800 gtx and E8400. Using the autodetected medium settings and autodetected 1080P resolution. I will probably not change the settings since IIRC tectures are on high and some other things are lower and the game has a good FPS/ graphics combination, why go lower on FPS. That is for the short while. On the long term there will probably be a guide out on how to maximize FPS/visuals combination.

TheExodu5 · Nov 10, 2011

Dmax3901 said:
Could be something to do with the slightly on rails nature of the intro?

Nope...I'm seeing it now. When I'm getting 60fps, it's easy to notice the mouse lag. For some reason, when I'm getting ~50fps, I don't notice it as much. I guess it's just in my head.

tch · Nov 10, 2011

Labombadog said:
Which cpu?

Phenom II X4 940 @ 3.00 Ghz.

Realyn · Nov 10, 2011

No its the game. In the first city, theres only 1 shop where you can buy stuff. In there I had mouse lags as well. Maybe shadows or AA, dont know.

Deleted member 17706 · Nov 10, 2011

With all this talk about terrible kb/m controls, I think I might just hook up the 360 controller and play this on my TV.

Echoplx · Nov 10, 2011

If you want better performance turn down shadows, they seriously fucked up them up.

Dmax3901 · Nov 10, 2011

TheExodu5 said:
Nope...I'm seeing it now. When I'm getting 60fps, it's easy to notice the mouse lag. For some reason, when I'm getting ~50fps, I don't notice it as much. I guess it's just in my head.

Bizarre.

I just spotted this in the SkyrimPrefs.ini:

iWaterMultiSamples=0
iMultiSample=0

Seems like this would be better turned on?

Labombadog · Nov 10, 2011

tch said:
Phenom II X4 940 @ 3.00 Ghz.

Which res will you be playing?

krameriffic · Nov 10, 2011

Zefah said:
With all this talk about terrible kb/m controls, I think I might just hook up the 360 controller and play this on my TV.

It takes some really janky and unfixable M+KB controls to get me to play a game with a controller. Like, Assassin's Creed 2 bad.

Atilac · Nov 10, 2011

I'm hoping to run this on ultra settings, x4 aa, at 1600x900.

I have AMD phenom 2 955 BE at stock, 4gigs of ram, and an ATI 4890.

What are the chances it will?

Karak · Nov 10, 2011

TheExodu5 said:
Also, as far as I can tell, modifying values in SkyrimPrefs.ini doesn't do anything...I think you have to do it in Skyrim.ini.

Wait what? We need to do the changes in the unrelated.ini file versus the one that is noted in the Bethesda tweaks thread?

Neiteio · Nov 10, 2011

How should I be with GTX560, i7, 64-bit, 8GB?

TheExodu5 · Nov 10, 2011

Default:

bTreeReceiveShadows=1:

Seriously, turn this on in SkyrimPrefs.ini. It makes the game look much better. Turn on bDrawLandShadows=1 as well, though it's impact is less noticeable.

Karak said:
Wait what? We need to do the changes in the unrelated.ini file versus the one that is noted in the Bethesda tweaks thread?

Sorry, disregard what I said. It seems the vsync option only works in Skyrim.ini, but the other options seem to work in SkyrimPrefs.ini.

Wallach · Nov 10, 2011

What kind of FPS hit do those two settings cause for you, Exodu5?

TheExodu5 · Nov 10, 2011

Wallach said:
What kind of FPS hit do those two settings cause for you, Exodu5?

I'm not sure if there's much of a hit. 20% drop at most.

Wallach · Nov 10, 2011

TheExodu5 said:
I'm not sure if there's much of a hit. 20% drop at most.

Hm, I'll check it out via FRAPS tonight. Fuck I hate time zones.

Hey are you using MSAA or FXAA in those shots?

ctrayne · Nov 10, 2011

TheExodu5 said:
bTreeReceiveShadows=1:

Very handsome screenshot.

TheExodu5 · Nov 10, 2011

Wallach said:
Hm, I'll check it out via FRAPS tonight. Fuck I hate time zones.

Hey are you using MSAA or FXAA in those shots?

Just MSAA. I haven't tried it with FXAA yet. I'd be curious to see the improvements on the foliage. Maybe I'll try to get a shot up.

Also, I'm playing with fov 80. Seems to be a comfortable number.

Wallach · Nov 10, 2011

TheExodu5 said:
Just MSAA. I haven't tried it with FXAA yet. I'd be curious to see the improvements on the foliage. Maybe I'll try to get a shot up.

Yeah, from those shots that's exactly what I was thinking.

kamspy · Nov 10, 2011

Anyone know of a working VPN? VPN S seems to be overloaded...

Zaphod · Nov 10, 2011

3chopl0x said:
If you want better performance turn down shadows, they seriously fucked up them up.

I have a 4850 and that is my first step in setting up a game. Shadows set low by default, other settings go higher than recommended, then I tweak. This thing sucks at shadows.

I too am wondering about the 4850 performance. Fallout 3 NV and Oblivion run pretty well on but after Rage I am a bit gun shy on buying a PC game on launch. I have the time off so I am buying this game day one, but the reports of the 360 texture bug are pushing me towards the PC version now.

iNvid02 · Nov 10, 2011

wow those tree shadows do make a quite a difference

did you change anything else exodu5

Sutton Dagger · Nov 10, 2011

Wallach said:
Hit Q, highlight a thing, then push the number you want to assign it to.

Oh man, what to do. Play with the 360 controller which I'm more comfortable with or use the keyboard so I have hot keys? I don't know how other people aren't complaining about this with regards to 360 controls, it takes ages for each fight if you like to swticth attacking styles. Do you think keyboard and 360 control use will be added via mod so we can use them at the same time?

Also you can fully turn off the hud if you turn the hud opacity right down.

TheExodu5 · Nov 10, 2011

Shot with FXAA:

It does improve the foliage, but also adds a slightly unpleasant bluriness to the overall image.

Links for easy comparing (switch back and forth in between the tabs):
4x MSAA
4x MSAA + FXAA

Gvaz · Nov 10, 2011

I can't find values for stuff like current carry weight in cheat engine, any tips?

BoobPhysics101 · Nov 10, 2011

Something odd is going on with the game... I'm getting the same performance at 4x MSAA as I am with 8x MSAA... hmm.

aett · Nov 10, 2011

Dalauz said:
i5 2500k @3.74 ghz

560 TI (evga, stock)

60 rock solid fps

That's exactly what I have, so that's good news.

Wallach · Nov 10, 2011

Nice, I'm definitely using FXAA.

Edit - Could I bug you for one more comparison shot of FXAA without MSAA?

Durante · Nov 10, 2011

Why not just force transparency AA to improve the foliage? Should be a much better solution than some post filter.

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