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The Evil Within (PS3/360/PC/NextGen, idtech5, Tango/Bethesda, 2014): [Up: New Info]
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"In film criticism, auteur theory holds that a director's film reflects the director's personal creative vision, as if they were the primary "auteur" (the French word for "author"). In spite of—and sometimes even because of—the production of the film as part of an industrial process, the auteur's creative voice is distinct enough to shine through all kinds of studio interference and through the collective process."
Lime's posts often require the use of my Google Chrome Dictionary extension.
Sorry for being a bit dense in my formulation. I meant something along the lines of attributing responsibility to one person for all aspects and content of (in this case) the game.
http://cdnstatic.bethsoft.com/theevilwithin.com/downloads/announce_1920x1200_01.jpg
Also, main website states: "Shinji Mikami, the father of survival horror, is back to direct The Evil Within".
Bad translation or they shifted directors ?
Which one is it, Ikumi nakamura or shinji mikami ?
There's still a tiny chance. Wait until it's been officially ruled out at least.
SlasherJPC
Banned
Will you guys hold out for next gen versions? Or double dip?
Oh okay. That's wrong and I agree (giving credit to Mikami for game design is wrong, because he is the director and there is a specific role for the designer), but I also feel that people are selling Mikami short on the other hand. He's one of the few auteur directors working in games.
So, I would be okay with saying it's Mikami's game, but not that he did everything in it, which includes misattributing roles to him.
FlashbladeGAF
Member
GAF understands that one person doesn't make a game all by himself.
It takes a dedicated team full of talented individuals to come together to make a game.
At the same time we do understand that a leader can make or break a game. Almost every game studio has talented people. But not every studio has a visionary who can make a good game a Great game. There is a reason names like Miyamoto, Hideo Kojima, Kamiya and Mikami get brought up. Their game may not be perfect, but there vision for their game is usually what makes it stand out amongst the hundreds of other games that get released.
90TilInfinity
Member
Right. The praise comes from the fact that Mikami-directed games usually tend to not just be of ridiculously high quality (e.g. REmake & RE4) but almost always innovative. That's not to say he's always the one who is innovative behind the scenes, but the fact remains games directed by Shinji Mikami, over a span of almost 20 years, almost always bring something new to the industry.
This is more of a special case anyway, generally it's studios who are praised. But when the likes of Mikami, Levine, Kamiya etc have a new project people get excited because of them and I think their catalogue warrants it.
Bruce Straley is the game director on both. Neil Druckmann was co-lead designer on Uncharted 2 and this is his first gig as Creative Director.
It's from the claim that a film is a director's personal vision.
it wasnt funny when The WarZ devs stole it though was it lol
Good posts and I now see what the significance of what is meant by "Mikami" etc. And no doubt he has one of the best portfolios around.
Kung Fu Grip
Banned
The king of survival horror is back. All i need to hear is that Yoshiki Okamoto is working along side Mikami then Resident Evil burn to ashes for all i care.
Excellent! Thank you!
LOVE the logo art. Both the stacked font with the extended 'T,' and the brain-house. The barbwire is incredibly visceral, and the inverted church forming the brain-stem is all sorts of creepy.
Do you guys think this game's monsters will have a "scientific" explanation (like viruses and parasites in RE), or are they going supernatural this time?
Yoshiki Okamoto has never worked on a horror game, I don't think. He was a producer who barely even interacted in-office with Mikami's Production Studio 4 or had a role in the development of any game.
monocle_wearing_hyrax
Neo Member
Auteur doesn't mean one man did everything. But rather one man directs the vision. In Film people know one person doesn't work all the cameras, build the sets,dresses the people,scores the film,handle special effects and fight choreography if there is any. But still the vision and themes come from one man or woman. You can look at multiple Kubrick films and see his style. The same way you can look at Ken Levine games and see his style.
Sapphire Dreams
Member
Looks interesting! hope it's good.
I know what it means.
Also, Levine shouldn't be in this conversation.
I hope you've played GOD HAND.
JimmyRustler
Gold Member
Well, Naughty Dog is pretty unquie when it comes to this, I give you that. There are hardly any other quality studios making games that do not have a distinctive face to tie on. I've know Amy for a while though since LoK used to be one of my favourite series. I guess she must really dislike the spotlight. Good for her that Evan Wells is jumping in most of the time. For a long time I actually thought that he was the Uncharted director btw.
Kung Fu Grip
Banned
He worked on my favorite RE games.
You just had to throw that shitty ass Cabin in the Woods in there and ruin it, didn't you?
PetriP-TNT
Member
Second game to us idtech5?
FlashbladeGAF
Member
In all the interviews I've seen Amy has only handled the writing and the direction of the actors during mocap. Don't get me wrong she does an awesome job but that wasn't the only elements that made Uncharted 2 great.
Look at this way... She was also the "creative director" for Uncharted 3. Yet Uncharted 2 was (IMO of course) the more balanced paced game and it had little to do with the writing and motion capture...(the game direction sucked)
Naughty dog is the exception because they don't have a hierarchy like most studios do, and the last of us isn't out yet so we won't know how good it will end up being. But even though Awesome Amy isnt writing the last of us, the 2 men who are, are definitely Naughty Dog.
Amy is in a class of her own so she doesn't fall under A or B Team
Jawmuncher
Member
Excellent! Thank you!
LOVE the logo art. Both the stacked font with the extended 'T,' and the brain-house. The barbwire is incredibly visceral, and the inverted church forming the brain-stem is all sorts of creepy.
Do you guys think this game's monsters will have a "scientific" explanation (like viruses and parasites in RE), or are they going supernatural this time?
I'd like to see them swing both ways. But with some of the designs here, I'd assume supernatural is more likely.
If the game sells Capcom's target of 7 million copies, yes.
dragonlife
Member
Sounds pretty damn interesting to me.
In those days, Okamoto was a producer who had no creative involvement, unless you count when he made demands at the final stretch of BIO1's development in relation to ink ribbon quantity and item box sharing. But from there on he literally didn't have anything to do with the active development of the series. He made corporate decisions such as deciding that the series should have a wide universe shared between many games like the 007 franchise.
He did bring in Noboru Sugimura for BH2 and then established FLAGSHIP though, so he gets major props for those.
IdreamofHIME
Member
Bad PR though, you just know Slowtaku and Co. will run this pretty soon. Makes them look less professional and lazy.
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Retro_
Unconfirmed Member
Where's the co-op come in?
Messofanego
Banned
PC version (piracy) and no online component ("one shot" campaign) kills sales drastically imo.
I really want to see what they've come up with to deal with these problems (if anything).
Kung Fu Grip
Banned
The press release clearly states PS3/360/PC and next gen consoles.
Muchi Muchi Pink
Member
Probably both, if it's that good.
Jawmuncher
Member
I loved it. Though I wanted it to play the whole trailer rather than quickly in the beginning and end.
AcceptableGhost
Member
god hand is sss tier brofor games Mikami directed there is a weird pattern/cycle going on
guess it's a good thing he is not the director on this one.
I love Bach but it seemed kinda forced into this trailer to me somehow. I kinda expected more from Mikami maybe, I don't know. What I did like, was the kind of thrashy '80's Hellraiser-style horror-vibe, if that makes sense. Not scary, but it did look cool.
SlasherJPC
Banned
Yeah if this lived up to what I'm expecting. I can see myself easily getting it twice. I'm starved for damn good horror titles these days, especially on consoles.
yes and adding to that; If it was UE3, a port would have been easy.
AFAIK there is no id tech 5 game running on Wii U.
PS4/X720 have similar architecture to PCs.
Seeing the PS3 version of id tech 5 and the amount of bugs on its PC version, I highly doubt Tango Gameworks is going to invest time & money into porting the engine to WiiU, which itself uses an uncommon architecture.
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Retro_
Unconfirmed Member
Another one?