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The Fine Bros back down after internet backlash, rescind all "React" trademarks
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Woo! Man I wish I was so much more.
The true test really is how much their average video views go down.
I'm not sure the internet works like that.
FortuneFaded
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What are you talking about? It takes 3-4 days for internet news to be shipped on containers from Maine to Plymouth. Then you have to unload all the data and put them on trucks to disperse around Europe.
Diablohead
Member
They are still losing followers but it's really slow now, doubt they will reach 500k lost but it's going to hurt them getting back to 14mil for a while.
UncleSporky
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400,000 out of 14,000,000 is 2.8% of all their subs. Additionally, a large portion of the remaining 13 million are likely lapsed accounts, unengaged viewers, bots etc. After all, their videos don't get 13 million views. They look like they average 1-2 million. And a good chunk of the 400k they lost were people who actively watched their videos.
Papa bless
schlongdog
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They uploaded a react video 3 days ago...it has nearly 3 million views.
UncleSporky
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Yeah, because everyone's upset about React World. Did you notice the dislikes?
Part of Youtube's weighing system on video popularity is based on how long they are watched. Their recent videos have all been watched for as long as it takes to pull it up and click "dislike."
What UncleSporky said, and YouTube takes into account how much of the video was actually watched. Enter, dislike, leave is going to look bad.
schlongdog
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do you notice something here?
Well we don't have the data for the amount of people that have only clicked on the video to dislike and leave, but say those 250,000 people who disliked don't count as real views , they've still had well over 2 million views in 3 days.
Jacksinthe
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Subs and views are fairly irrelevant metrics. Minutes watched is the primary driver. Many people can simply look at the page for a few seconds and not generate revenue.
I can't see their minutes watched but I'm willing to bet with all the negative news - its down, regardless of "views".
"Views" are also artificial as they are NOT unique. So, someone looking at that video more than once to see it's activity and how many times it's been thumbed down, will count as multiple views.
You can see any of this information in your creator panel on YouTube account. This is what people look for when it comes to performance.
I can puff my chest all day at how many "views" my website may get but they won't all be unique and the minutes on each page might be next to nothing. Views, subs, etc are piss poor metrics for performance.
LegendofDragoonLives
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You mean the people with ADHD :\
WordAssassin
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You don't think what's true, that they wanted to trademark the word "react"? Because it is, there is a ton of proof including their own written "apology" letter. They also wanted to trademark "opinions" and "lyric breakdown". And they were attempting to trademark them under the "entertainment" banner of trademark law so they'd not only have been able to go after people on YouTube, but any form of entertainment such as TV and movies as well. Hence them striking out against Ellen and Jimmy Kimmel.
BTW, their trademarks and pending applications are still in the system, not sure how long it takes to become rescinded.
http://www.tmfile.com/owner/fi/fine-brothers-properties,inc28.php
http://www.tmfile.com/owner/fi/fine-brothers-properties,inc28.php
WordAssassin
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lazer_bean
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It doesn't matter apparently.
People seem more pissed off with the FIne Bros than they are at stuff like the TPP (trans-pacific partnership)
Jacksinthe
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How do we unsub from TPP?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gq8E7CWATlk
You weren't kidding. They do something new or this just delayed blowback?
Jacksinthe
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I think we will see 500k no sweat. We are at 420k now. That's insane.
Ivan Amiibo
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Perhaps the chance of more milestones?
It just hit 425k, 450k won't take long at this rate.
Jacksinthe
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We still need to remove the containers and freight them all over the country. Will have to use special balloons to get to some areas. But for now, word on the docks are spreading.
If the politicians and lawmakers responsible for the TPP talked about its more controversial parts in a YouTube video there'd probably be a lot more visible outrage.
Wow, a huge acceleration in subscriber loss in the past few hours. Maybe a popular YouTuber made a video about it.
Either that or they put up a normal video the last 4 hours ago, people might be pissed they haven't uploaded a official apology video and just sweeping it under the rug.
Yeah, they need to make a video apologizing and telling their audience that they backed out. I don't feel like a lot of people even know that they're no longer planning on going ahead with React World.
It was a good run.
Unfortunately a lot of these youtube comments are about "everyone makes mistakes" and "they apologized". Which angered me a little but I realized those are the responses of young teenagers.
Just need to give it a few hours:
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Jacksinthe
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Jacksinthe
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The lawyer that went to bat says he received letters from the courts showing the request for TM removal, IIRC.
At this point there would make no sense to lie about that. Everyone is still watching them and if people would find out they were lying about rescinding the trademarks could only hurt them. They do have a huge image problem atm and even if they stop bleeding subs, they will keep (rightfully so) having lots of dislikes and less views. They need to turn damage control up to 11.
perfectchaos007
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No new South Park till September so there will probably more pressing issues to cover by then. Looks like we'll get another year of PC principle too.
It was a good run.
Unfortunately a lot of these youtube comments are about "everyone makes mistakes" and "they apologized". Which angered me a little but I realized those are the responses of young teenagers.
I once watched a documentary about Pablo Escoba on YouTube. Same kind of comments...
Zombie James
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It was a good run.
Unfortunately a lot of these youtube comments are about "everyone makes mistakes" and "they apologized". Which angered me a little but I realized those are the responses of young teenagers.
Their loss rate's slowed down significantly but they still haven't had a single hour since this mess started where they've gained subscribers: http://socialblade.com/youtube/user/thefinebros/monthly
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