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The Game Developers Conference 2006 Thread (Part I)
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robertsan21
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radioheadrule83 said:
if this is true I am cry
Some more impressions here:
http://blogs.gamedaily.com/blogs/
They're very hot on Warhawk.
I think re. Region free, it'll be left to publishers to enforce if they want to. I doubt Sony will force pubs to make their games region free.
http://blogs.gamedaily.com/blogs/
They're very hot on Warhawk.
I think re. Region free, it'll be left to publishers to enforce if they want to. I doubt Sony will force pubs to make their games region free.
John Harker
Definitely doesn't make things up as he goes along.
sorryaboutdresden said:
It's also the name of the bar in Swingers
radioheadrule83
Banned
Jax said:
Yeah he must be. I mean he was there, how could he not be going hype crazy? He gave himself away by posting an *opinion* you people didn't wanna hear. He's a crazed nbot for realz.
Seriously -- it seems he might be wrong on one or two counts... are we gonna tally the pre-rendered vs realtime stuff from LAST YEARS E3 yet? Who cares?
Calm down... that one sentence won't matter a jot anyhoo. A lot of good came out of Sony's conference.
Gamestop said in a conference call yesterday that they expect 750k PS3 units for all of North America in 2006. Analyst Piper Jaffray had the same according to sonycowboy That puts the US launch units on par with what the 360 did (600k in the US, unknown in Canada). There will be epic shortages.Wyzdom said:
But back to GDC....
The lack of hard confirmation on the HDD was a real surprise. I thought if anywhere this is where they would remove all doubt, for the sake of the developers.
Not sure what his particular preferences are, but he's always been a fairly even-handed poster around here. I don't think we have to rush to imply bias on his part, when it may just be foggy recollection or even the simple truth regarding his impressions of the Sony GDC keynote. Wait and see.Jax said:
sorryaboutdresden
Member
I talked to someone at the same Q and A that IGN was at, and there they said the games are in fact region free. While Harisson may have been talking out of his ass, I'm giving the gaming press a free pass on this for now. Lets just hope its true.
Jeez, mixed impressions total.gofreak said:
Someone in IRC said it best, seems some reporters are over-compensating (on the backlash) after being fooled last year. Though Warhawk was obviously realtime and everyone who disses that is just nuts.
I'm going to wait for media on my own before deciding who to believe on this grand scale of;
Ps2-quality <<<<>>>>matches CG - the impressions have just been too mixed
more info on IGN.com
In a QA session following the platform keynote address at GDC 2006 this morning, Sony Computer Entertainment Worldwide Studios President Phil Harrison confirmed what was heavily demanded for import gamers all over the world and yet previously thought unthinkable for a major corporation: the PS3 will be region-free for gaming.
The move was not unexpected, as SCE had previously mentioned considering the possibility of opening up the region structure for PS3 games recently (the newly-released PSP system has but does not use a region code system for games, but that's more a standard for portable games than a new development for region-free gaming.) The system is, amongst other things, hoped to help combat piracy - many import fans "chip" their consoles with region-free mod chips to play import games, and while that desire has some legitimacy, it also opens the doors for pirates to release illegal copies of games. (Funnily enough, it's most often easier to run illegal games on a console than it is to run legit games from other countries due to the way most mod chips work, leading to a slippery slope for importers hoping to stay legit but finding the road difficult to maneuver.) Region-free gaming also allows game publishers to release games across the globe simultaneously, either through e-distribution or on disc. The capacity of Blu-Ray had previously been mentioned to allow for multiple languages of a game to be encoded onto the same massive-capacity disc.
The one caveat of this new region-free structure is that games made for specific regions' electrical and TV standards may have problems on your TV set. A PAL PS3 game, for instance, will have difficulty running on an NTSC TV, unless the developers have thought ahead and planned for that issue. It is currently unknown how the PS3 will cope with this problem (whether there will be a warning when you run an import about possible TV incompatibility, or if possibly there might be a no-play screen for incompatible games depending on your PS3's TV settings.) Luckily, modern HDTV standards go a long way towards making that problem moot. Also, games made in other countries will naturally only have the text and dialog it is programmed with, so don't put your pre-orders down so fast on all of those Japanese RPGs and Dragon Ball if you don't know a lick of kanji, because English will only be in if the developers have planned for it. (It's unknown if there will be any type of "patching" system for multi-language releases, although that might be possible on supported games post-release now that the PS3 is carrying its massive HDD and flash memory support.)
We'll have more details on how this impacts publishers and importers as soon as we know more about SCE's plans for region-free PS3 gaming.
In a QA session following the platform keynote address at GDC 2006 this morning, Sony Computer Entertainment Worldwide Studios President Phil Harrison confirmed what was heavily demanded for import gamers all over the world and yet previously thought unthinkable for a major corporation: the PS3 will be region-free for gaming.
The move was not unexpected, as SCE had previously mentioned considering the possibility of opening up the region structure for PS3 games recently (the newly-released PSP system has but does not use a region code system for games, but that's more a standard for portable games than a new development for region-free gaming.) The system is, amongst other things, hoped to help combat piracy - many import fans "chip" their consoles with region-free mod chips to play import games, and while that desire has some legitimacy, it also opens the doors for pirates to release illegal copies of games. (Funnily enough, it's most often easier to run illegal games on a console than it is to run legit games from other countries due to the way most mod chips work, leading to a slippery slope for importers hoping to stay legit but finding the road difficult to maneuver.) Region-free gaming also allows game publishers to release games across the globe simultaneously, either through e-distribution or on disc. The capacity of Blu-Ray had previously been mentioned to allow for multiple languages of a game to be encoded onto the same massive-capacity disc.
The one caveat of this new region-free structure is that games made for specific regions' electrical and TV standards may have problems on your TV set. A PAL PS3 game, for instance, will have difficulty running on an NTSC TV, unless the developers have thought ahead and planned for that issue. It is currently unknown how the PS3 will cope with this problem (whether there will be a warning when you run an import about possible TV incompatibility, or if possibly there might be a no-play screen for incompatible games depending on your PS3's TV settings.) Luckily, modern HDTV standards go a long way towards making that problem moot. Also, games made in other countries will naturally only have the text and dialog it is programmed with, so don't put your pre-orders down so fast on all of those Japanese RPGs and Dragon Ball if you don't know a lick of kanji, because English will only be in if the developers have planned for it. (It's unknown if there will be any type of "patching" system for multi-language releases, although that might be possible on supported games post-release now that the PS3 is carrying its massive HDD and flash memory support.)
We'll have more details on how this impacts publishers and importers as soon as we know more about SCE's plans for region-free PS3 gaming.
AdmiralViscen
Banned
RaijinFY said:
No, it simply means that we don't have all the information yet. You can't take what we have and turn it into a simple yes or no.
If anything, I'd say Sony wants to wait and see how much they have to charge for PS3 before commiting to the HDD. If they can get costs down to a reasonable level, they'll include it, otherwise, exclude it. But that's a theory, not a simple answer.
This is absolutely HUGE for me. I seriously hope this comes through...
I was planning on buying TWO PS3 systems, as I attempt to play most of my games in Japanese these days but wouldn't want to miss out on Western titles. Really damn good news. Possibly the best in this thread.
Katana_Strikes
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Lord Error
Insane For Sony
No, I think what he said is that it looked much worse than the E3 video...kaching said:TekunoRobby, I gotta ask...
You're saying what was shown was a far cry from this?
The picture you have there is from the TGS video, and that was pretty clearly realtime. Now, I might be crazy, but to me, that picture you posted and the whole TGS video definitely looked better than the E3 video of this game.
OMG REGION FREE!! HOW IS THAT NOT A MEGATON ON THIS BOARD?!?!?!!
Do you realize how amazing that is? I highly doubt they'll keep the region coding in for their legacy BC, so that means the PS3 will be capable of playing EVERY SINGLE PLAYSTATION TITLE EVER DEVELOPED ANYWHERE IN THE WORLD!
/faints, wakes up, screams like a little girl and proceeds to faint again
OMG!
Do you realize how amazing that is? I highly doubt they'll keep the region coding in for their legacy BC, so that means the PS3 will be capable of playing EVERY SINGLE PLAYSTATION TITLE EVER DEVELOPED ANYWHERE IN THE WORLD!
/faints, wakes up, screams like a little girl and proceeds to faint again
OMG!
Like I said on the other topic, and before anyone asks: "No, I do not have any PS3 footage"Dav2k said:
Dav2k said:
Is there anything he cant rip and tear apart in a bloody mess? :lol
Dav2k said:
HAWT! ...especially the end...
did you even read my post or the article? they're not talking about what he said DURING the keynote but about the QA session AFTERWARDS.Gazunta said:
"In a QA session following the platform keynote address at GDC 2006 this morning, Sony Computer Entertainment Worldwide Studios President Phil Harrison confirmed what was heavily demanded for import gamers all over the world and yet previously thought unthinkable for a major corporation: the PS3 will be region-free for gaming."
if this turns out to be untrue IGN would have seriously fucked up.
SolidSnakex
Member
Marconelly said:
From his impressions the footage shown at GDC just had planes flying over water while the E3 footage had planes flying over land. That could be what the difference is. Because the quality of the planes in the TGS footage isn't worse than what was shown at E3. The only difference was that the TGS footage took place above water while the E3 footage was above land and having it take place above land is always going to make it loo more detailed.
sorryaboutdresden
Member
Sony was strict as hell with cameras during the keynote. Their will be videos from their booth up later tonight for sure though. Their booth has the tech demos for Warhawhk , Ratchet, Motor Storm, etc.
RaijinFY said:
From Kotaku:
""First, he declined to talk about whether the hard drive will be included in the PS3. Instead, he said that all PS3 games will require the hard drive."
It seems pretty silly to sell a game system without the component that lets you play the games, doesn't it?
The HDD has to be included.
Zerodoppler
Member
Dav2k said:
Never played the original GoW, but this sure looks fun.
robertsan21
Member
if footage of GoWII exists then PS3 footage must exist aswell
Ninja Scooter
Member
GhaleonEB said:
at this point i dont think its as big a deal. Either way, we are probably going to pay $100 for the HDD, whether its through a $400-500 MSRP, or separately like Xbox360 (not neccesarily with 2 skus though). Developers are requiring the HDD for game developing, and thats the real key thing. I think Sony is probably just up in the air about whether they want to include it, or sell it seperately to allow consumers to buy bigger/third party drives, much like memory cards.
If they wanted to "bomb zal droppen" about the HDD, I would expect something like, "Every PS3 will ship with a HDD standard," to be said. When both Ken and Harrison dodge that statement and leave it up to implication, something is up. Sony does not mess around when it comes to making huge announcments like that.Mifune said:
The only thing that's up is that they probably haven't decided exactly how they want to package it and, even if they had, with 8 months to go before launch circumstances may still conspire to suggest a different course of action in that regard. They seem committed to the statement that it will be required for every PS3 game, which doesn't make it any different from a regular memory card in that respect.GhaleonEB said: