They may just mean to expect low sales in September because they are transitioning in that month. Example: They announce first week of September, to go on sale in 3rd week of September--you get 1 week of very good sales, but the rest of the month will be zero--plus new iPhones will likely be supply constrained.B!TCH said:
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B!TCH said:
There are rumors that the iPod touch is being replaced with a cheaper (possibly contract free) iPhone 5. http://www.tuaw.com/2011/06/18/point-counterpoint-on-the-iphone-5-replacing-the-ipod-touch/ The evidence is pretty convincing actually.
HenryGale said:
Wow... Really? That just seems delusional.
I love my iPhone. I think it's the best cell phone there is right now....but I can't help but be very impressed by the numbers that Android phones pull in.
Seriously. This type of thinking is what ruffles the feathers of so many people. When you can't admit that another platform beating you in sheer numbers means something....I don't know what to say.
The answer is somewhere in the middle.gohepcat said:
I think it's more impressive in that it's a great feat that so many handset makers have adopted it. That's a big win for Google, and shouldn't be dismissed.
But plenty of factors are attributed to the 'userbase' number that it can be discussed a myriad of ways. Unfortunately it usually just gets used in the 'omg x is destroying x!!1!!' fashion in fanboy wars.
LyleLanley
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I don't want to turn this into a huge phone sales discussion, but doesn't the iPhone have more sales than any other single smart phone? I know Android is beating iOS as a whole, but that's to be expected when Apple is only releasing 1 phone a year.
Kermit The Dog
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gohepcat said:
I live in Australia and barely anyone has Android phones. In my age demographic (15 - 30), I'd say 6/7 out of every 10 people has an iPhone. Its ridiculous, so hearing that Android is eating up iPhone's share of the market is entirely baffling to me.
Kermit The Dog said:
Hmm. Well. That's anecdotal, but it could be that your peer group isn't representative of the population as a whole, or Australia is still iPhone country.
I personally see more Android phones than iPhones. I'm note exactly sure why. Most of them were pre Verizon iPhone so that might have been a factor.
Perhaps it's because you can walk into a store and get an Android phone for free?
fierrotlepou
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Plasmid said:
That's not how they'll look. The real ones will have a much bigger screen. There's too much "space" on the counterfeit ones.
Buttonbasher
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Same here. Just imagine if your 3GS was a 3G with a dead bottom third on the touch screen. I was waiting until July, then August, then September and now they're saying October. It's painful. My screens been like this since May.Kermit The Dog said:
They just need to announce it already. They strung me along waiting for the white iPhone 4, but by the time that came out this was "so close" that I decided to keep waiting. I have years worth of iPhone blue balls. I've been buying apps that don't run on my 3G in preparation for a year. Give me my sweet release Apple.
Patrick Bateman
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OCTOBER?
I NEED ME A IPHONE 5 NOWW!!!
I NEED ME A IPHONE 5 NOWW!!!
did you see this one from the wsj's tech blog:Plasmid said:
iPhone with interchangeable zoom lenses *swoons*
The Lamonster
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All these iPhone models look the same. It's a black touch screen phone with silver on the outside. Just like they've always been...
jonnybryce
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The Lamonster said:
Yeah, I'm trying to get excited and I'm not. That's how it's always been but I guess being so satisfied with iPhone 4 makes it hard to care.
Kermit The Dog said:
Android owes a lot of it's success to Verizon's massive DROID marketing campaign. That propelled it's popularity like a missile.
RukusProvider
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Now that ATT has competition with Verizon, I wonder if they'll give better pricing to people wanting to upgrade before their eligibility date. I've keep my 4 in very nice condition and would like to ebay it and upgrade to the 5.
Anyone here use gelaskins? How are those? This one is really tempting me (love the screen wallpaper idea) http://www.gelaskins.com/store/skins/phones/iPhone_4/The_Great_Wave
I actually bought a fullbody InvisibleShield for it last year but never actually put it on. I'm using just a plain Iphone4 now (had bumpers before, but stopped using when my earphones plug wouldn't fit through because of them). Anyone know if both work well together? On the other, I don't necessarily need to bother with the actual screen protector, since I haven't been for a year already.
I actually bought a fullbody InvisibleShield for it last year but never actually put it on. I'm using just a plain Iphone4 now (had bumpers before, but stopped using when my earphones plug wouldn't fit through because of them). Anyone know if both work well together? On the other, I don't necessarily need to bother with the actual screen protector, since I haven't been for a year already.
Llyranor said:
They work well together and actually make the bumper fit slightly more snug. My friend had a bumper without the Invisible Shield skin (I actually used bestskinsever, same thing though) and it got pretty loose over time. Also, the bumper alone without protection on the aluminum frame tends to wear down the finish really bad. My friend's phone, which had a bumper from day 1, has bad wear spots. Mine got them on the power button and volume buttons as those have no protection from the plastic bumper contacts.
Edit: Oops, sorry. Thought you meant skins+bumper, not gel skin+Invisible Shield.
Kermit The Dog
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hyp said:
Well cost of living in Australia's three main capital cities is among the highest in the world and plenty still justify the cost en masse, so I'm still baffled. We have several variants of Walmart but they only sell lower-end, prepaid plastic crappy phones. All our smartphone retailing is done by telco brick and mortar stores and independent phone retailers.
You don't see any Android marketing over here at all.
Not true; HTC is 14% of Android phones, Motorola has 11% of Android phones, Samsung has 8% of Android phones--the rest is scattered among cheaper brands like ZTE, Huawei, Kyocera, etc. Even if you allocate a decent amount to LG, Dell and Sony, you still get a huge percentage of phones coming from lower cost brands.btrboyev said:
We didn't get the whole "droid" push like the US did from Verizon so the android uptake here has been slower and the iPhone has been available on all the major carriers from the start which made a huge differencehyp said:
Now though, android is taking off.....numerous phones on different plans so it's good to see some competition. Vodafone actually increased the price of the Galaxy s2 after I got mine, the demand has been that strong
sixteen-bit
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Why Orange?Xamdou said:
Can't you kinda do that already with the iPhone 4 anyway? I've seen funny accessories with lenses the size of the phone attached to the rear camera.Greyface said:
The Lamonster
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Couldn't you just get a orange and black case?Xamdou said:
Pristine_Condition
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Kermit The Dog said:
Now THAT'S some bullshit.
The poster I was referring to was trying to tell people what they should or shouldn't care about...
Bboy AJ said:
Gee, thanks for telling me that business NEWS is not anyone's concern. Someone please inform the Wall Street Journal, Forbes, and Bloomberg that we know longer need their services anymore.
...and he was also trying to dictate what they should or shouldn't post about...
Bboy AJ said:
I don't do that. Look at what Marty and I were discussing. I never told Marty he shouldn't be allowed to post his thoughts, and to his credit, I don't think he did that to me either. I just disagreed with something he said, which he later clarified. There was some back-and-forth banter, but it was harmless, and Marty is certainly no stranger to some verbal jousting.
I was just telling the poster that instead of trying to dictate what others discuss or what others should care about, maybe he should ignore the sub-topics that he doesn't care about.
This is, after all a thread devoted to the entire iPhone 4, not just one particular aspect of it. Some folks might be interested in the financials behind the iPhone 4, and the business aspect is certainly an important part of that broad picture of the product.
Yes, I certainly may argue with someone over a point if I disagree with it, but I don't just go around trying to dictate to people what they are allowed to care about, or what they are allowed to comment on. It's interesting that you came along to support him in his quest to censor discussion about business news or comments about business matters though. I guess there's a white knight for everybody, and you guys are certainly entitled to your opinion.
Yes, there's the fisheye, macro, wide angle and telephoto lens accessories, to name a few. Those third party efforts require a case or some sort of adhesive to attach the lens to the iPhone. The lens also block the flash on the iPhone4.Koodo said:
Pristine_Condition
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Greyface said:
Yes, but just to expand on what you are saying, a phone with a built-in bayonet or other type lens mount, and a sensor designed with that mount and interchangeable lenses in mind all along, would be a total game-changer for serious mobile photographers/videographers.
I really, really doubt it's ever going to happen in a mainstream product, but if it did...wow, it would be cool. There's a potential for a leap in versatility and quality there that makes it very interesting.
sixteen-bit
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_dementia said:
Seen it? I know a guy who had one designed and CNCd out of billet aluminum just for himself before that thing was even a product. His design was better though, as it used much physically smaller, but still very potent enlarger lenses instead of SLR mounts.
Of course I'm a professional photographer, so I've seen a lot of niche stuff and nothing anybody comes up with any more really shocks me. I know a guy who basically has a $7000 pinhole camera.
EDIT: Damn...I just saw the Diana adapter for Canon. I'm getting that. I blame you, _dementia!
Ok, wait, anyone with an iphone, I got a question.
So I can basically have free texting with Google Voice, yes?
If I turned receiving text messages on my phone off, they would still go to my google voice, right?
And then I could just go to the Google Voice app on my iphone and send and receive from there.
Would I have to use an actual Google Voice phone number, or would my iphone number linked to my Google Voice account be ok? Because I read in one place that if you have a text sent to your Verizon number (presumably AT&T too) that it will count towards your text charge regardless if you turn off receiving them to your phone.
I don't actually own an iphone, but I'm trying to see if there is some way I can get out of having to pay 20 dollars a month for an unlimited texting plan. The only downside I can see to this is that it would be inconvenient to open the app all the time, and notifications might not be instantaneous. And I don't know how much data it would use, but that might be an issue too.
So I can basically have free texting with Google Voice, yes?
If I turned receiving text messages on my phone off, they would still go to my google voice, right?
And then I could just go to the Google Voice app on my iphone and send and receive from there.
Would I have to use an actual Google Voice phone number, or would my iphone number linked to my Google Voice account be ok? Because I read in one place that if you have a text sent to your Verizon number (presumably AT&T too) that it will count towards your text charge regardless if you turn off receiving them to your phone.
I don't actually own an iphone, but I'm trying to see if there is some way I can get out of having to pay 20 dollars a month for an unlimited texting plan. The only downside I can see to this is that it would be inconvenient to open the app all the time, and notifications might not be instantaneous. And I don't know how much data it would use, but that might be an issue too.
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