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[SolarKnight]

I was talking to a friend and we agreed not only a color edit for the characters but the actual effects. . . fireballs, neomaxes. . . colour edits for those.

I would be like

Wasn't something like that in 98UM PS2? I think I remember at least one of the games having a color edit for the effects.

 

[Data West]

They're not doing any sort of arcade stick deal with this are they?

 

[SolarKnight]

IIRC, during the EVO conference they said no, but that they'd like to.

 

[Korigama]

Nope, that's what I mean! I remember seeing it mentioned about why they don't have catalogues on PSN. I don't know all the details, however, as I don't own a PS3, so I don't keep up with it all.

http://www.joystiq.com/2011/01/04/psn-missing-super-street-fighter-iv-costume-catalog-add-ons/

That was the article, actually.

Has something changed since then? *shrug*

Ah, so it doesn't apply to SSFIV. As far as Capcom goes, that sort of thing was accounted for in the original SFIV, same with the original MvC3. If it's new data instead of just being locked on the disc, that might be why. Admittedly, I passed on following SFIV beyond the original, so it was my mistake for thinking that sort of thing was already patched in like it is in other games that introduce new skins/outfits/characters.

EDIT: In respect to Arc and BBCS, none of the data for the DLC characters was there beyond artwork and theme music. All of the essentials needed to make them playable had to be patched in, hence why even people who didn't buy them could see them online. In regards to the timeframe issue Capcom brought up, the last of the DLC characters for BBCS was released nearly a year after the game launched.

 

[gundamkyoukai]

Wasn't something like that in 98UM PS2? I think I remember at least one of the games having a color edit for the effects.

Yep on 98um on ps2 you could edit everything even supers.
I waste so much time giving Athena sky blue and pink fireballs lol.

 

[SAB CA]

A note to those attending SVB 20XI:

Please make sure to try both strengths of a move, when using them! Like at Otakon, I figured out that Hwa has 2 variations of his Dragon Breaker (command throw distance, and leaping throw distance), and that Yuri has 2 versions of her Hyakuretsu Binta (command throw, and dashing) now, depending on button pressed. These were changes from the arcade version.

So please check to make sure things such as Clark's SAB DM, Robert's Command Throw, or Leona's Earring Bakudan, don't have different button variations! SNKP seems to be trying to modify button strengths to give characters a better moveset (Such as with Clark's Autogard Argentine Back Breaker), so now that we know that, make sure to keep it in mind while testing!

Looking forward to seeing new vids from the casual play today!

 

[SAB CA]

Various Impression from around the Web, from SVB:

Atb_555 On Dreamcancel:
http://dreamcancel.com/forum/index.php?topic=1144.msg24250#msg24250

Takuma:
- qcf + D: has autogaurd properties
- qcf + D: can nullify fireballs
- db, f + D: seemed to beat small jumping attacks quite well

K':
- j.D: much slower
- qcf + A/C: definitely feels slower with more startup
- qcb + B/D: seems like it moves quicker because I kept doing the second qcb + D too fast thinking the first qcb + D has hit

Clark:
]- hcf + B: has at least to hit auto guard, we all lol'ed when we saw it absorb Maxima's close st.C twice

Time was very limited due to me having to judge and loads of people trying it for the first time but I suppose the console version is just around the corner now.

*~Cristina~* on NeoEmpire Forums:
http://www.neoempire.com/forum/showpost.php?p=400923&postcount=242

Been playing a lot of the beta test ver. of the console ver.

Mainly focus on yuri, kula & vice ( which is my team)

Yuri:

jump ;c hit box seems change, doesn't really hit anything above her upper body.

Hcb ;b is a command grab, ;d ver still the same, ex has less invincible frames

fwd ;a can be combo from ;c / ;d, which potentially good on corner
hd combo.

ex raiohken does less guard gauge dmg , like 10% now.


Vice:

jump ;c + ;d hit box is smaller.

Feels like Hcf ;b + ;d > c/d is much easier to do now.


Kula:

ex rayspin haven't got any invisible frames , still goes thru lows.
Think it still + f on block tho.

dp ;c hit box back to 2k2 ver.

hd combo is a bit different now.


so far that's all the change that I found .

k', raiden , liz are still good, but not as good as the old xiii

 

[SAB CA]

Love these Chain-post I get to do, lol.

Orochinagi-provided SVB Console Version Vids:

Clark autoguard KOF XIII console version SVB 2011 (Ahhh, going to be so fun to abuse!)

Tutorial Mode KOF XIII console version SVB 2011 (Hi Rose! Why are you teaching in Sakazaki Dojo?!?)

Elizabeth Alternate Costume KOF XIII console version SVB 2011 (Just for Fersis, right?)

1P vs Cristina KOF XIII console version SVB 2011 (Chou Uppah!)

 

[CadetMahoney]

P1 is called "rio"/

some pics later on today

in the tutorial menu it starts off like "Walk forward" *walks* Achievement unlocked. . . :-| (or something).

 

[thetrin]

I appreciate an in depth tutorial, even if it goes back to complete basics. I hate missing out on minor systems in a fighting game because they weren't explained properly.

It'll also help my friends to get into the game when they come over to play.

 

[zlatko]

I appreciate an in depth tutorial, even if it goes back to complete basics. I hate missing out on minor systems in a fighting game because they weren't explained properly.

It'll also help my friends to get into the game when they come over to play.

It's always nice to have something over nothing. Hopefully they have some combo challenges and the ones they pick are the BnB's that are useful/ones you WILL use in a fight.

 

[Fersis]

Love these Chain-post I get to do, lol.

Orochinagi-provided SVB Console Version Vids:

Clark autoguard KOF XIII console version SVB 2011 (Ahhh, going to be so fun to abuse!)

Tutorial Mode KOF XIII console version SVB 2011 (Hi Rose! Why are you teaching in Sakazaki Dojo?!?)

Elizabeth Alternate Costume KOF XIII console version SVB 2011 (Just for Fersis, right?)
1P vs Cristina KOF XIII console version SVB 2011 (Chou Uppah!)

What you talkin' about kiddo? * Pulls up pants *

 

[akachan ningen]

did they announce the price?

 

[Terareflection]

did they announce the price?

$50. Perhaps Fersis could add the cheaper price to the OP?

 

[gundamkyoukai]

Man i am loving all the changes they are making to the home version .

 

[Grokbu]

Clark's autogaurd looks sooo fun to play with.

Btw. I remember someone talked about Maxima's Way to get meter with backdash -> j.qcb.A/C. Was it confirmed to not be in the console version?

 

[SAB CA]

in the tutorial menu it starts off like "Walk forward" *walks* Achievement unlocked. . . :-| (or something).

I appreciate an in depth tutorial, even if it goes back to complete basics.

I hate missing out on minor systems in a fighting game because they weren't explained properly..

Aye, even though it'll be a bit basic for many of us, I agree, better to start off basic, then start off too in depth! If KoF XIII helps ease neophites into fighters in general, that's 1 more reason for a casual player to pick the game up, "You, this'll even teach you how to play Street Fighter and Mahhhvel bettah!"

What you talkin' about kiddo? * Pulls up pants *

*innocent whistling* Is it bad that I can never see "Kid!" or "Kiddo!" without thinking about SF1's Sagat's vocal victory quote? :lol:

Man i am loving all the changes they are making to the home version .

Much agreed. I expecially love it when depth is given to an existing moveset; watching individual presses get more unique uses, or watching an accute adjustmeent of move properties. As little as I play BB, I also appreciate how much variety they give the same moves, but with different button presses.

Clark's autogaurd looks sooo fun to play with.

Btw. I remember someone talked about Maxima's Way to get meter with backdash -> j.qcb.A/C. Was it confirmed to not be in the console version?

The autoguard is such a funny, but effective change. Should help bring back his on-wakeup mixup potential, which I'm rather happy about.

I attempted the Maxima gauge trick myself, but without arcade experience, I can't say I was doing it RIGHT, to test it. (Might have been too ealy, of course.) I've rarely even seen American players attempt it (or to play Maxima), so hopefully, we can get some concrete testing on this during the JP demo setup events in Japan!

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I had an odd dream, where more info on XIII was revealed... Raiden had a "LOL Raiden!" Variation (ultimate troll character), that walked all upright, and slurching forward... he was animated as if he was drunk/high, with a very blitzed look about him. The game also revealed Yamazaki (who became more insane as his charged his snake arm move... at max charge, he's whip his arm in an arch, while going insane), and some messed up "Clone Ryo" form, who looked as if he just jumped out the cloning vats, and wanted to fight... but had a gut! (I blame exibitionist Saiki for this!)

Upon waking... I was sad to see at least Yama wasn't real, lol.

 

[Grokbu]

I attempted the Maxima gauge trick myself, but without arcade experience, I can't say I was doing it RIGHT, to test it. (Might have been too ealy, of course.) I've rarely even seen American players attempt it (or to play Maxima), so hopefully, we can get some concrete testing on this during the JP demo setup events in Japan!

Ah, I see. Here's to hoping it's still there!

EDIT: ^ Sounds creepy if you ask me.

 

[SAB CA]

It was pretty creppy, lol. On Maxima's meter charge... well, guess we could whiff his command throw, if they take away hop-back vapor charging, at least!

--

Random Info updates from Orochinagi Twitter:

- So andy can do cr. ;a, stand ;c (2 hit), fwd ;a !? Interesting...

On the Tourney they're having today, they now have 80 (!!) entrants.

The Final 16: http://t.co/QBejqmb

Tourney Progression:
Atb 555 def. Izanami
CCL def. Gunsmith
Max 300 def. snuggle
Boblan def. TKO Supa
Jay def. Sho Dragon
2pac def. Mycom
Cristina def. Robocop2
Kusogaki def. Shin Dragon

http://t.co/knEbEQO guess who will be playing kof tomorrow!

2Pac scored an ocv
Ccl def. atb
Boblan def. max300!

http://t.co/20TXfNQ Cristina says HELLO BOYS


Cristina def. Kusogaki to go through to final 4 tomorrow with Boblan, 2pac and CCL!
http://t.co/PWHU6ti top 4!

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We can assume vids were taken of much (all?) Of this, sounds like some good matches await!

And then the final happen tomorrow...

 

[haunts]

I had an odd dream, where more info on XIII was revealed... Raiden had a "LOL Raiden!" Variation (ultimate troll character), that walked all upright, and slurching forward... he was animated as if he was drunk/high, with a very blitzed look about him. The game also revealed Yamazaki (who became more insane as his charged his snake arm move... at max charge, he's whip his arm in an arch, while going insane), and some messed up "Clone Ryo" form, who looked as if he just jumped out the cloning vats, and wanted to fight... but had a gut! (I blame exibitionist Saiki for this!)

Upon waking... I was sad to see at least Yama wasn't real, lol.

appreciate your contributions but ITS TIME FOR A BREAK my friend.

going back to southtown today. wish me luck. T_T

 

[N4Us]

going back to southtown today. wish me luck. T_T

Go for it. Never give up. "You angels can turn hate to love, change poison into medicine and replace doubt with dreams" ~ Vin Diesel

 

[SAB CA]

appreciate your contributions but ITS TIME FOR A BREAK my friend.

going back to southtown today. wish me luck. T_T

:lol: I think it's pretty good that I've only had 1 or 2 KoF dreams over all this time! (And Yamazaki looked awesome! XD)

Good luck at Southtown! If Kim is on your side, do not worry, for JUSTICE will be with you!

 

[Noisepurge]

Came in second place on my pool today in SVB. Christina was too good And i was mainly just mashing random attacks. Ralf still rules!

 

[Fersis]

Came in second place on my pool today in SVB. Christina was too good And i was mainly just mashing random attacks. Ralf still rules!

Congrats bud!

Oh it looks like haunts is a full KOF player now. Welcome to our faith haunts

 

[CadetMahoney]

very early morning pics from yesterday:





80 entrants wittled down to:

last 8

ccl (Belgium)
2pac (France)
bublan (Sweden)
cristina (UK)
max300 (ggpo player from Spain)
robocop2 (UK)
atb555 (UK)
Kusogaki (UK)

last 4

ccl (Belgium)
2pac (France)
bublan (Sweden)
cristina (UK)

matches were not good at all. . . only 3 ppl know how to play the game really so don't expect alot of stuff going on in any vids, except maybe in the finals.

today:

ccl plays bublan
2pac plays cristina

£300 prize, no second place prize. CCL will probably win it today.

 

[zlatko]

I'm pumped for more KoF13 today from haunts' stream. I've been getting more practice in so hopefully when the real deal drops in October I can not be totally free until everyone figures out how to play in a week after it drops.

I think Kensou might be the most slept on character in the game.

You know what my main problem with this game is? Too many fucking characters are fun to play and just flow well to execute combos. Total opposite of SF4 for me where I think C.Viper looks awesome, then my fat fingers get a hold of the stick and just derp it up unable to do her SJC combos and shit.

Gonna be hard to settle on a team, but it lets me play around with everyone from now till October so I can hopefully narrow it down to only a handful.

 

[haunts]

good day, kim is coming along. got some blah blah drive cancel combo into ff + a into super. gave me a boner.

kyo is doing better but havign a hard time comboing off of DF. D. i feel like my overall pressure game is better with jump D and jump down C.

k' is k'

i felt like kim was the weak link for a while but I feel like he is my strongest character now. playing k' first, then kyo and kim last. I burn meter like crazy with kim.


another edit here: how do you deal with maximas super armor in this game? and how about raidens green spit? I tend to rushdown like crazy in this game and get lit up by both these moves pretty bad.

You know what my main problem with this game is? Too many fucking characters are fun to play and just flow well to execute combos. Total opposite of SF4 for me where I think C.Viper looks awesome, then my fat fingers get a hold of the stick and just derp it up unable to do her SJC combos and shit.
.

i love this game becuase there are so many characters that are interesting to play. SF4 isnt like that for me. only a handful of the characters are interesting...like there is no way id ever play vega or blanka or even balrog..

really cant wait for console so ill have more time to mess around with others. right now just working on team white power so i dont get blown up as bad.

 

[Fersis]

More footage from SvB 2011

@Haunts: Maxima super armor is a fundamental part of his style so i would recommend to learn which moves and frames he has with super armor and bait the hell out of him. LOLZ
Dunno about Radien green spit since i havent played XIII yet >__<
Hey Haunts does Kim has his f+B overhead in XIII?

Oh and from watchin' these new vids im 100% sure that they tonned down the blur filter.
Its so damn good looking its offensive.

 

[haunts]

More footage from SvB 2011

@Haunts: Maxima super armor is a fundamental part of his style so i would recommend to learn which moves and frames he has with super armor and bait the hell out of him. LOLZ
Dunno about Radien green spit since i havent played XIII yet >__<
Hey Haunts does Kim has his f+B overhead in XIII?

Oh and from watchin' these new vids im 100% sure that they tonned down the blur filter.
Its so damn good looking its offensive.

yeah he has the f+b overhead.

check out this kim at about 10:30 in: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MLBASs8c5cQ

 

[Urban Scholar]

yeah he has the f+b overhead.

check out this kim at about 10:30 in: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MLBASs8c5cQ

Yeah but which one....oh...oh wow! *throws hands in the air*

 

[haunts]

Yeah but which one....oh...oh wow! *throws hands in the air*

haha yeeeeeaaah.. *_*

also for more HD madness go to the very last two rounds in the video and check out the Kyo. pretty bomb.

 

[SAB CA]

Thanks for the links to the Tourney vids, Fersis. Those weren't as bad as they could have been! Just about each fight had someone who obviously had prior KoF / XIII knowledge, which is always good.

Watchin' them off Kusogaki's blog is the way I caught em: http://kof-uk.blogspot.com/2011/08/super-versus-battle-20xi-kofxiii.html

The OrochiNagi Show will also be going over the tourney on Monday, here: http://www.elive.pro/en/watch/pO6a0JSC292c

another edit here: how do you deal with maximas super armor in this game? and how about raidens green spit? I tend to rushdown like crazy in this game and get lit up by both these moves pretty bad.

Maxima's Super Armor (Often called "Guard Point" or "Autoguard") is a bit trick to deal with. Rarely-used but entirely-effect strats to dealing with it:

• Cancel/Super Cancel into a move with invincibility. He'll whiff, you'll take the hit.
• Cancel into a command throw. Since a Guarded blow (in this case) still counts as a "hit", you can combo into command throws (So say, Kyo's EX HCB+k) as if the first his actually landed normally. It's a pretty jerky thing to do.

But the number one trick to deal with Maxima's GP's:

• Hit him low. No Guard point down there, and his GP moves normally have slow startup.

As far as dealing with Raiden's posion spit... Much like Maxima's Vapor Cannon, if someone is locking you down between hits and that move... You can probably jab him out of it, to stop his flow. And of course, invincible reversals.

If you can, roll through him, or hyper jump over him, too.

With your characters, I'd probably stand out of range, and punish him with things like Kim's (Stand B-> f,f+A) or Sweep, K' sweep, possible Blackout (teleport) past it (The invisible portion should go through it), and Kyo's df+D, and full jump dwn+C.

i love this game becuase there are so many characters that are interesting to play. SF4 isnt like that for me. only a handful of the characters are interesting...like there is no way id ever play vega or blanka or even balrog..

Yeah, I'll always love that about KoF. I like playing loads of characters in fighters anywho, so it fits my sensibilities perfectly. SNKP's pretty good (for me) at making you feel like SOMEONE in their office loves the character you're playing, and made sure to give them solid tools, and make them fun to use.

 

[Fersis]

Man i cant wait for this game i havent played a KOF game in years..

This is me returing home ;__;

Yeah, I'll always love that about KoF. I like playing loads of characters in fighters anywho, so it fits my sensibilities perfectly. SNKP's pretty good (for me) at making you feel like SOMEONE in their office loves the character you're playing, and made sure to give them solid tools, and make them fun to use.

Someone likes Raiden a little too much.

The KOFXIII Atlus website finally works for me... OH MY GOD Classic Iori has his KOF 00 Ura 1207 super!!! OH MAH GAWD! OH EMM GEE!!

 

[zlatko]

So what's the ETA for KoF13 stream? :O

 

[Fersis]

So what's the ETA for KoF13 stream? :O

KOFXIII streams are every other sunday...in this case next sunday. :3

 

[Korigama]

The KOFXIII Atlus website finally works for me... OH MY GOD Classic Iori has his KOF 00 Ura 1207 super!!! OH MAH GAWD! OH EMM GEE!!

Similar, but not quite. That's Saika, the one they gave him starting in '01. His super from '00 was its own standalone attack, but the way Saika works is to act as an extender for Ya Otome (you have to put in the 4x QCF+AC motion just as it ends).

 

[zlatko]

KOFXIII streams are every other sunday...in this case next sunday. :3

I have nothing left to live for. *commits Sodoku*

 

[Fersis]

Similar, but not quite. That's Saika, the one they gave him starting in '01. His super from '00 was its own standalone attack, but the way Saika works is to act as an extender for Ya Otome (you have to put in the 4x QCF+AC motion just as it ends).

In KOF 00 Iori got a new awesome Super (Kinda useless though) thats the one im talking about not the Ya Otomoe follow up.
The command was QCFx2+P (Not QCFx4+P)

 

[CadetMahoney]

random casuals


top 4
2pac (winner France)

Bublan (Sweden)

CCL (Belgium)

Cristina (UK)

 

[CadetMahoney]

2pac won, gave half of the £300 to ccl what a nice guy

 

[Korigama]

In KOF 00 Iori got a new awesome Super (Kinda useless though) thats the one im talking about not the Ya Otomoe follow up.
The command was QCFx2+P (Not QCFx4+P)

Ah, I stand corrected. Though I knew which one you were referring to, I hadn't noticed they gave him both for XIII...for some reason (not sure why they did, I would've much rather had Reverse Talon Comb from '99 back).

 

[N4Us]

Worked on some new tech for Terry/Benimaru today. Found an EX corner cancel that's ridiculous with Beni, if I ever get in the situation to pull it off though.

 

[SAB CA]

Someone likes Raiden a little too much.

(^_^) Yup, Exactly!... (O.O No No, think Older and Shorter! I'm always impressed with how solid random characters can turn out in KoFl characters who'd be almost an afterthought to other companies.

I don't even like Momoko that much, but the attention they payed to her moveset in XI was suprisingly solid.

I also found it very suprising they gave Shingo his own critical hit system, lol. It didn't make any sense that he'd have something so exclusive! And then Counter Wire was introduced later on, and pouncing enemies off walls with counter VAPOR KANNUNNNNS was so satisfying... And then seeing things like OTG throws and earthquakes with Goro back in games like 98, when I never remembered anything like that back in the day...

There's just suprising, unique stuff all around, and it's always impressed me how much uniqueness they can pull out of such large cast.

Speaking of such things, here's a Beijing-born set of Match vids from the arcade version:

http://v.youku.com/v_show/id_XMjk0MTc2OTA4.html

(Thanks to a11111357 on DC for the link) It actually has some solid Goro play, in the very first set. Really makes you wonder why so many people are sleeping on him... (I enjoyed much of what I saw of him back during the Technical References...)

Worked on some new tech for Terry/Benimaru today. Found an EX corner cancel that's ridiculous with Beni, if I ever get in the situation to pull it off though.

Looking forward to seeing many attempts of this on the next stream ^_^ Considering how little Beni one sees, it'd be great to once again, teach everyone to "UnderSTAND?!?" (Beni's engrish is almost as epic as Terry's!)

 

[haunts]

i hate to be "that guy" but i wish there was more coordination with whoever handles media/recording at these KOFXIII events so we could get direct feed footage. dont get me wrong i love the efforts of people using cams to get footage, its just more on SNK Playmore to be getting HD footage out of the game. could only do more for promoting the game imo.

 

[Fersis]

i hate to be "that guy" but i wish there was more coordination with whoever handles media/recording at these KOFXIII events so we could get direct feed footage. dont get me wrong i love the efforts of people using cams to get footage, its just more on SNK Playmore to be getting HD footage out of the game. could only do more for promoting the game imo.

Agreed. >8(

Hell let the community do the work just give us the means. (HD Capture cards,event entry,etc)

I thought this game was gonna be $30. $50 is way too much.

Dunno $50 sounds like a cool deal to me. (Though im kinda biased)

 

[akachan ningen]

I thought this game was gonna be $30. $50 is way too much.

 

[haunts]

I thought this game was gonna be $30. $50 is way too much.

why would it be $30? that makes no sense.

 

[Kintaro]

I thought this game was gonna be $30. $50 is way too much.

What? Why would it be $30?

 

[Chiave]

$50 sounds like a deal for a good game with the best 2D art I've ever seen. Better than paying $60.

 

[SAB CA]

i hate to be "that guy" but i wish there was more coordination with whoever handles media/recording at these KOFXIII events so we could get direct feed footage. dont get me wrong i love the efforts of people using cams to get footage, its just more on SNK Playmore to be getting HD footage out of the game. could only do more for promoting the game imo.

Well, when the Japanese arcade version came out, there was the "Road to SBO!" Stuff being done over a few weeks, as well as the ebjTV tournaments at that time.

But I agree, I wish we had more (though Atlus and Rising Star bringing the game to Tourney's and Conventions is also fantastic.) Maybe SNKP will set up somthing to record vids from the Japanese Demo Units, or contact some top players to give some special exibitions?

I thought this game was gonna be $30. $50 is way too much.

Really, it's not. This game has just as much, if not more, time and effort put into it as almost any other fighter released on home consoles this generation. You'll find that most in here believe $50 to be very reasonable, as we were mostly expecting $60.

If you can really look at the opening post to this thread, take in all those details, and think this is a 30 dollar game... well, you must be in the wrong thread or something!