Listen mode can be turn off,and you can upgrade Joel aiming and his guns.
People this is not Uncharted.
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The Last of Us: New Previews
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People this is not Uncharted.
SolidSnakex
Member
The Listen Mode can be disabled in a menu. So I don't see why that's an issue now. A person that played it earlier in the thread said that he played through the demo initially without even using it because he didn't know it was there. So the game wasn't designed for it be used like some games with that feature.
Listening Mode can be turned off
SniperHunter
Banned
the game looked perfect last e3. Awesome gun play, no bullshit listening mechanic. Stupid naughty dog
oh well I hope the final game holds up to that showing.
oh well I hope the final game holds up to that showing.
I doubt they set out to make the game worse. They clearly thought Listen Mode was necessary for balancing the difficulty. And I don't believe the aiming is much different.
The AI is the real deal
http://www.psnation.org/2013/05/17/impressions-of-the-judges-day-preview-for-the-last-of-us/
Wow. ND uber alles again.
SniperHunter
Banned
awesome
Giant Panda
Member
I already know that. That doesn't change the fact that listen mode was salvageable and yet they did nothing.
Exciting stuff.
New Game plus confirmed again:
http://www.gameinformer.com/games/t.../naughty-dog-turns-our-world-upside-down.aspx
SniperHunter
Banned
noobasaur on suicide watch
Metalmurphy
Member
Am I missing something? Gunplay looks exactly the same as before.
Stop. Please stop.I can't wait.
SolidSnakex
Member
One preview mentioned that the aiming felt loose. But we've since learned that you actually have the option to upgrade Joel's abilities, and one of those is weapon sway. So that greatly change how gunplay worked.
pharmboy044
Member
So these Supplements can help with your aim or health. I guess the aiming complaint by Videogamer.com can be fixed by those Supplements.
God damn. I need to unzip these jeans, the pressure is too much.
SniperHunter
Banned
oh that's rad! The gunplay itself still looks awesome
AranhaHunter
Banned
The listen mode is for the casual audience that needs its hands held throughout a play session. This mode is specifically for those people. Imagine the bad word of mouth, "this game is too fucking hard, fuck that shit" and sales suffering as a consequence. ND is trying to cater to us (people that want a challenging and immersive play through) and the audience at large. First and foremost they want to sell the game and create another multi million dollar franchise like Uncharted. Here's hoping they succeed.
I'd really just prefer if, as I get better at aiming as a player, that would be enough. Not making the controls purposefully less responsive to artificially boost them...
FantasticMrFoxdie
Mumber
MeBecomingI
Member
Heh. The previews read like it'll be a mixed set of reviews. Some will be glowing and some will be scathing.
At any rate, this game sounds incredible. To think it'll be out in less than a month... easily my most anticipated game. One thing I love about Naughty Dog is their attention to detail and the game seems full of little details. I often find myself exploring and seeking out little details when I play anything so this will certainly be fun.
I think part of the problem is that it is enabled and on by default. It would've made more sense to leave it as an option that you could toggle on if you found the game to be too difficult or unforgiving.
At any rate, this game sounds incredible. To think it'll be out in less than a month... easily my most anticipated game. One thing I love about Naughty Dog is their attention to detail and the game seems full of little details. I often find myself exploring and seeking out little details when I play anything so this will certainly be fun.
I think part of the problem is that it is enabled and on by default. It would've made more sense to leave it as an option that you could toggle on if you found the game to be too difficult or unforgiving.
Yeah I am going to be doing alot searching
I really think RE4 is the best comparison.
http://www.pocket-lint.com/news/121...-explored-in-the-hottest-ps3-game-of-the-year
I really think RE4 is the best comparison.
Dragon1893
Member
The Music of The Last of Us: Gustavo Santaolalla
http://www.naughtydog.com/site/post/the_music_of_the_last_of_us_gustavo_santaolalla/
Edit: New game+!!!
http://www.naughtydog.com/site/post/the_music_of_the_last_of_us_gustavo_santaolalla/
Edit: New game+!!!
And when were at it - Soundcloud The last of us OST preview page
ed: also thanks for that new music link Dragon.
ed2: hooolllyyy shhiiii strong MechWarrior 2 vibes at around 4:05! :lol
Psycho_Mantis
Banned
So glad ND listened to feedback. New UI looks so much better and hell yes for hardcore mode. Great work guys. Must buy for me but thats pretty much describes every ND game imo.
therealminime
Member
Oh that is awesome. Just going to turn off the last four options and have a grand old time.
Fine Ham Abounds
Member
Detective Mode strikes again? I managed to pretend it didn't exist in Tomb Raider, hopefully I can here as well.
Edit:
Even better.
Facundo_Lopez
Neo Member
http://blog.us.playstation.com/2013/05/17/the-music-of-the-last-of-us-gustavo-santaolalla/
I think
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The music in this game is mindblowing.
I think
i'm hearing joel crying... santaolalla says "heartbreaking" = death of someone?
The music in this game is mindblowing.
LightofRohan
Member
Oh man, you can turn off everything! Way to go ND!
How is it lookin' people? I'm still on media blackout...
How is it lookin' people? I'm still on media blackout...
AstroZombie
Banned
This is incredibly disappointing.
What does this even mean?
Skiesofwonder
Walruses, camels, bears, rabbits, tigers and badgers.
I'm on complete blackout, but has Rev3 (Sessler) put up a preview yet? Would love to hear what he says about it.
Evolved1
make sure the pudding isn't too soggy but that just ruins everything
So glad ND listened to feedback. New UI looks so much better and hell yes for hardcore mode. Great work guys. Must buy for me but thats pretty much describes every ND game imo.
It's missing one important (to me anyway) option.
Shoulder switching... whether it always reverts back to the same shoulder every time you aim, or it remembers what shoulder perspective you last used. Now the latter is what I've always preferred and what makes the most intuitive sense (and is the least clunky!) but what I learned from Uncharted feedback is how many people actually prefer the former.
It became somewhat of a divisive issue. And eventually Naughty Dog made it a toggle, but I'm a bit fuzzy on the specifics.
Hopefully this game has both options, so everyone will be happy.
And in a perfect world, the latter option would also allow you to switch shoulders even when you weren't aiming, so that you could be aiming around a corner and then run to an opposite corner, and have switched during the move, so when you bring the gun up it's already oriented in the better position and you don't have to switch it (and lose that time or fumble with it). Maybe that is asking for too much.
But hopefully there's at least a toggle. Cause people will complain either way... as they did with Uncharted.
perineumlick
Member
I don't understand what the problem is if people can totally turn Listen Mode off in the options. Much ado about nothing imo.
AstroZombie
Banned
People could turn instinct off in Hitman Absolution, but that only made the game incredibly frustrating because the game was designed assuming players would use it. I assume that the same will apply to listen mode.
dummydecoy
Member
Listen Wall Hack mode should just be automatically disabled for normal and harder difficulties and kept on for Ninja Dog players.
Glad for the option though.
Hopefully the PS4 rerelease will have shadows on everything (missing on the table, plant, etc.)
Glad for the option though.
this..?
Hopefully the PS4 rerelease will have shadows on everything (missing on the table, plant, etc.)
ViewtifulJC
Banned
Sure hope this game doesn't suffer from Bioshockism where there's dozen of crap littered around every new area for you to click on, that's encouraged to do because the way the upgrade system is built.
Evolved1
make sure the pudding isn't too soggy but that just ruins everything
I don't think it's a fair comparison... at all.
Instinct was a fundamental gameplay element in that remaining undetected was predicated on the ability to put your hand over your face and look away as you pass someone. Turing off instinct took this away completely. If turning off instinct only removed the instinct trails (that showed where guards would walk, or their position through walls) it would be a more apt comparison... but turing off instinct practically broke the damn game.
That's not what this is. It's just turning off an assist or possible crutch for the player, not a fundamentally game-breaking core mechanic.
The_Hitcher89
Member
Are there any games where the controls get tighter as you go through, representing the character's acclimatisation to their actions, without visual upgrades ala bar-filling and XP?
Ugh. Why make a game so gritty and realistic looking and have bullet sponges?
perineumlick
Member
I played Hitman without instinct, and it enhanced the experience for me. I don't believe this game is designed to be used with listen mode, or else we would have seen that option in play from the jump. I think it's the other way around; focus testing showed some people cried like babies at the tension, so this was added.
Evolved1
make sure the pudding isn't too soggy but that just ruins everything
The aim will not get tighter on the analog... what will happen is that you have less weapon sway as you upgrade. It will be tighter in that way, and other games have done this, but it will not change analog settings, just as no other game in existence ever has.
Not reacting to every bullet is not the same thing as bullet sponge. If two bullets kills you, you are not a bullet sponge.
Journos are saying the enemies don't necessarily react to every shot, but we have video that they certainly have reactions to a variety of shots, and they die very quickly.
Bullet sponge is the wrong word. I'm suspicious of any one using the term in this context...
(edit: the late-stage infected can be bullet-spongy, but that's a design decision... that we've know about for weeks)
AstroZombie
Banned
Liquidsnake
Banned
Its difficult for me to find another developer who has had such an impact this generation as ND.
They know what they are doing, and they have pushed this gen to look beyond this gen.
Such talent over there.
They know what they are doing, and they have pushed this gen to look beyond this gen.
Such talent over there.
I distinctly remember seeing the pre-release screenshots of Uncharted 2's jungle areas and later being greatly disappointed with how profoundly small and restrictive they actually were -- there wasn't even a faint sense that you were exploring a part of something larger as the immediate surroundings were completely closed off. I expect such locations as seen in the gif will be similarly corridoresque.
perineumlick
Member
Lol, I hear ya!