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The March 21st Apple Event Thread: Looping In With OS Updates, A New 4-Incher, & More
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JetBlackPanda
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Thanks man!
This photo reminded me how much more lust I had for the 5/5S than the 6/6S The latter two just look like lumps of nothing compared to the SE design. I own the 6S, it does everything I want fast and competently, but the design just doesn't give me a chubber.
Will Apple ever make a black phone again? The least they could do is offer the gold/silver/rose with black front bezels and antenna lines. This iPhone SE design is so lazy.
ethomaz
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It is not only the look of design that is better for me... the resistance and build of 5S is better than 6S.
6S looks like cheap material on hands.
I'm happy they back to the old design.
ethomaz
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Not confirmed.So RAM is confirmed 2gb?
But I don't believe Apple changed A9 just To release SE... makes no sense.
secretanchitman
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So RAM is confirmed 2gb?
You got it!
No idea about the RAM but it's a safe bet that it's 2GB according to AnandTech. It would honestly kill me if Apple left it at 1GB.
jts
...hate me...
I was always of the opinion that the 6 design was uninspired as well, even though nowadays I have a 6s+.
The curved glass looks very good and sexy, and the phone has quite a good feel in the hand (not assessing slipperiness here).
What kills it the most, imo, is the antenna bands. Everything about them. The shape, the softness of the design, their sheen, even the shade of grey used is dull (on the space grey one) and makes it look cheap.
In comparison, the solutions found on the 4 and 5 series were much more inspired. The antenna breaks on the 4 were actually cool, and the glass pieces on the 5 made for a more interesting back, while retaining the premium look and feel. Although this was not really acknowledged back then.
Don't think Apple is retaining the 5 design to upsell the SE, mind. Even though it is an 6s-mini in (almost) everything but name and looks it is the cheaper phone in the lineup, and treated as such, even the chamfered edges different finish can attest to that. The 5 design made it simpler to develop and it offers all the 5/5s case and accessories ecosystem that goes back 4 years in time already, and that's great.
The curved glass looks very good and sexy, and the phone has quite a good feel in the hand (not assessing slipperiness here).
What kills it the most, imo, is the antenna bands. Everything about them. The shape, the softness of the design, their sheen, even the shade of grey used is dull (on the space grey one) and makes it look cheap.
In comparison, the solutions found on the 4 and 5 series were much more inspired. The antenna breaks on the 4 were actually cool, and the glass pieces on the 5 made for a more interesting back, while retaining the premium look and feel. Although this was not really acknowledged back then.
Don't think Apple is retaining the 5 design to upsell the SE, mind. Even though it is an 6s-mini in (almost) everything but name and looks it is the cheaper phone in the lineup, and treated as such, even the chamfered edges different finish can attest to that. The 5 design made it simpler to develop and it offers all the 5/5s case and accessories ecosystem that goes back 4 years in time already, and that's great.
Liu Kang Baking A Pie
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They never stopped selling iPhone 5s, and lol at the conspiracy theories.
Automatisch
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I'm still very happy with my 13in iPad Pro but it does suck that the 10in got a few new features/changes so soon after it was released. Hopefully there's parity next go around, as the new True Tone display sounds nice, but so far I much prefer the bigger screen and want them to keep making them for the foreseeable future. Was hoping for OS X stuff but I guess we're waiting til Summer for that. I just want the supposedly fixed Apple Music interface in iTunes.
Exactly. The other phone companies are simply too afraid to test these waters. They could have easily beaten them to the punchline and with a fresh design.
tiredheadcrab
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Man I must feel like the only guy in the world that enjoys the 6s+ design. It looks great to me.
Anyone considering the SE should think about getting the higher storage model. 64gig is roomy enough for all the photos that camera will take and not to mention the amazing videos.
Anyone considering the SE should think about getting the higher storage model. 64gig is roomy enough for all the photos that camera will take and not to mention the amazing videos.
mattiewheels
And then the LORD David Bowie saith to his Son, Jonny Depp: 'Go, and spread my image amongst the cosmos. For every living thing is in anguish and only the LIGHT shall give them reprieve.'
The theme of this one was "old shells", ha.
Honestly, I wish my Air 2 had corner speakers that rotated automatically instead of these horribly placed and rumbly bottom edge speakers, but that's all I'd really want to upgrade for.
Honestly, I wish my Air 2 had corner speakers that rotated automatically instead of these horribly placed and rumbly bottom edge speakers, but that's all I'd really want to upgrade for.
Skel1ingt0n
I can't *believe* these lazy developers keep making file sizes so damn large. Btw, how does technology work?
Cross post from the Mac thread:
I want to upgrade my 1st gen 16GB iPad Air pretty badly. There's no reason for me to ever grab it, when my 6s+ is so much faster, and it's so low on space.
But man, the iPad Pro is a significant investment. I'd want cellular, so the absolute cheapest model is $730. Plus a $150 keyboard and a $100 pencil. Plus tax. We're talking a thousand dollars for a tablet, when I already have a fast and large iPhone, and a MacBook Pro.
Yes, it's got a lot more functionality than my Air. It's way faster. And the accessories aren't required. But, it's like every little thing is way overpriced.
It starts at $100 more.
There's no 64gb option, requiring a significant splurge to 128.
The cellular chip that costs $5 is a $130 upgrade.
The pencil is $100.
The keyboard is $150.
It's like the "Apple tax" hits over and over again.
I want to upgrade my 1st gen 16GB iPad Air pretty badly. There's no reason for me to ever grab it, when my 6s+ is so much faster, and it's so low on space.
But man, the iPad Pro is a significant investment. I'd want cellular, so the absolute cheapest model is $730. Plus a $150 keyboard and a $100 pencil. Plus tax. We're talking a thousand dollars for a tablet, when I already have a fast and large iPhone, and a MacBook Pro.
Yes, it's got a lot more functionality than my Air. It's way faster. And the accessories aren't required. But, it's like every little thing is way overpriced.
It starts at $100 more.
There's no 64gb option, requiring a significant splurge to 128.
The cellular chip that costs $5 is a $130 upgrade.
The pencil is $100.
The keyboard is $150.
It's like the "Apple tax" hits over and over again.
I don't understand why people include the cost of the pencil and keyboard as if they are mandatory.
I'm buying the iPad Pro and have no intention of ever getting the keyboard or a pencil
cheezcake
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Does it though? Most of that extra functionality comes from the stuff you have to buy extra anyway. I would buy an ipad pro if it included the pencil, but that shit costs a ridiculous amount, $165 in Australia, it's an absolute joke when the 9.7" ipad pro starts at $900 here. You're look at $1064 minimum for a 32gb wifi only tablet w/ pencil.
It's marketed as a laptop replacement for "creators". Lots of us need the pencil to make use of it for that purpose, and as it's basically direct competition to the Surface people naturally add in cost of a keyboard to it.
16gb iPad Pro doesn't exist
cheezcake
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Oh my bad, always assume base model is 16GB. Edited.
I'm assuming the 10" Pro weighs the same as the Air 2?
Would you use the pencil and keyboard?
Honestly even the Air 2 would be a good upgrade over the first gen. It's an even better buy now with the price drop.
You could upgrade to the Air 2, enjoy the better speed and performance, and then in another year if you want the 10" Pro you'll probably come across a random Best Buy sale here or there.
Not too mention you could get a little bit back selling either Air at any point.
Would you use the pencil and keyboard?
Honestly even the Air 2 would be a good upgrade over the first gen. It's an even better buy now with the price drop.
You could upgrade to the Air 2, enjoy the better speed and performance, and then in another year if you want the 10" Pro you'll probably come across a random Best Buy sale here or there.
Not too mention you could get a little bit back selling either Air at any point.
there isn't one
30yearsofhurt
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So a bigger ipad, a couple of lame accessories and a three year old phone
wow
wow
HUELEN10
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Everything in your post is wrong, except the wow.So a bigger ipad, a couple of lame accessories and a three year old phone
wow
30yearsofhurt
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My mistake. The ipad isn't bigger.
wow that would have sucked if that actually happened
HUELEN10
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Yeah assuming no downclocking shenanigans this ought to have significantly better frame rates for gaming. Having to push massively less pixels than the 6S or especially the S Plus is gonna make this thing a beast.
I disagree. 6/6s looks and feels very slick and premium imo.
jts
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A beast with a small display. Honestly prefer the trade-off.
Afro Samurai
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I can't wait to run with the 6SE. It's half the weight of my 6S+.
Not on my wishlist, but having a future-proofed enormously pocketable model is something I'm glad they provide.
Being able to dominate the middle and high end of the small phone market doesn't hurt either. It may be much less important than it was 5 years ago, but people with small hands or tight fitting clothing now don't have to settle for a dated workhorse like the 5S.
Zeyphersan
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Just SE. No number
Zeyphersan
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I think they'll keep the SE as the 4 inch phone through the iPhone 7, and then refresh it when the 7S comes out. A year and a half cycle. Looking likely since Apple won't let you do the yearly upgrade plan on it like you can with the 6s series, which is guaranteed to have a yearly successor.
I don't think Apple even knows if there will be another SE yet. This seems like a very experimental product for them. A 4-inch phone in this day and age with near-top-shelf specs for well under flagship pricing is totally uncharted territory for any phone manufacturer, much less Apple. They probably want to see what happens.
The Real Abed
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The SE is just the replacement for the 5C. Which was just a replacement for keeping the previous model around. There will be another SE. But it isn't guaranteed that it'll be the same name.
My prediction is starting with the 8, they'll design it in all three sizes from the beginning and just have all three available from the start. 4", 4.7" and 5.5" all at the same time with the same design cues. The 5C had a new design because they wanted to show off their neat new way of moulding plastic shells. (Which is strange since nothing they sell is plastic anymore.) The SE is literally the same case as a 5 and 5S because it lets them reuse the old machines to make their casings. But once they streamline the process they'll most likely just design all three at once and get them released all on the same day.
At least that's how I see it.
And the 4" is going to sell pretty well. How well did the 5C sell? (I own one myself because there was no 6 at the time. It's white. I love how it looks. But sometimes wish it was black plastic, or bright Product (RED) colored.)
Dog Problems
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Guess I'll finally upgrade from my 4S to the SE. I was hoping they'd make it the size of the 4/4S, but oh well.
If it were the 5C replacement, they won;d've made it a 5S internal. Or maybe A8 chip, but they gave it internals of a 6S, and the better cameras. It's as current as you get internally.
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