ThoseDeafMutes
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That could easily pass for ten different SF franchises, tbh. Although that's as much ME's issue as it is those renders.
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shinobi602
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SF? Science fiction?
True, but I was just referring to the visual fidelity of it more than the art design itself...hell, BF4 characters already look much better in Frostbite 3. And I remember tweeting Yanick (the game's studio director) about how good they looked and what we can expect from the next ME in Frostbite, and he pretty much said that given Bioware's focus on great looking characters, we'll be more than pleased with how good they look.
shinobi602
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Ah found it:
Count of Monte Sawed-Off
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Ha, I might just do that. I really don't think I can stomach that ending again.
I am not sure if this is the greatest game series of all time, or legend of zelda.
I have a lot of friends who played ME2 or ME3 but never started from the beginning and they always say "well, its OK." Its hard for me to explain, but its like watching a movie and starting halfway through to me. The thing that makes these games so great is the evolving story and really detailed characters- not the gunfights. Those are actually pretty boring.
I only wish that the extended cut ending (the one where the battle against the reapers is lost- and a hologram of liara is left for future generations) was made canon. That way I feel that the series could have continued in a meaningful way.
I have a lot of friends who played ME2 or ME3 but never started from the beginning and they always say "well, its OK." Its hard for me to explain, but its like watching a movie and starting halfway through to me. The thing that makes these games so great is the evolving story and really detailed characters- not the gunfights. Those are actually pretty boring.
I only wish that the extended cut ending (the one where the battle against the reapers is lost- and a hologram of liara is left for future generations) was made canon. That way I feel that the series could have continued in a meaningful way.
Ah found it:
If you had asked him this question for ME1-3, I doubt he'd have said it any differently.
shinobi602
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Well they did look really good. The character models were pretty superb when ME launched in 2007.
But then that would mean that the Reapers would have succeed in eradicating all the races. So you would have to say goodbye to turians, krogans, asaris, salarians, drells, volus, and i can go on. A sequel like that wouldn't even be Mass Effect anymore.
Yeah, you can't make a game without humans.
Thinking about it some more, I'd be interested in seeing if they could get multiplayer up to 6 or modes that allowed giving each player the option of an AI partner.
Mostly true for non-human female characters.
That said I remember this showing a rather poor side of ME's modelling and reiterated the issue that we still have, i.e. lack of proper animation from under the chin down to the neck (including adam's apple) which can lead to some awkward looking models:
TheUnsunghero26
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Anyone remember this video from Microsoft before the release of Mass Effect about the dialogue wheel?
It's dumb in a fun way, and a pretty good contribution to society.
It's dumb in a fun way, and a pretty good contribution to society.
Typographenia
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After Mass Effect 3, I really just want something that I will have fun playing again. ME1 and ME2 had a lot of things I liked and didn't like, but I had a great time just playing them. ME3 always made me want to put the controller down and do something else.
I remember Wrex's character model blowing my mind back in the day. The humans never improved all that much through the series but I'm sure they'll look significantly better in future titles. I'm hoping the next game will provide similar wow moments the original gave me.
My primary disappointment with the ending was that I had no idea at all how they could continue the series. The series can't live off prequels forever and if they want to move into the future I think they would need to make one of the endings canon.
I'm still incredibily excited to see what they do next. Mass Effect was still overall my favorite franchise of the gen. It's the kind of franchise that can hold several kinds of gameplay styles and spin offs. I think that's actually one of the more wasted potentials of the franchise so far, all of the spin off's have been mobile games. I'd love a stealth game or a game based on a party member's past (though that would probably have worked better for DLC).
My primary disappointment with the ending was that I had no idea at all how they could continue the series. The series can't live off prequels forever and if they want to move into the future I think they would need to make one of the endings canon.
I'm still incredibily excited to see what they do next. Mass Effect was still overall my favorite franchise of the gen. It's the kind of franchise that can hold several kinds of gameplay styles and spin offs. I think that's actually one of the more wasted potentials of the franchise so far, all of the spin off's have been mobile games. I'd love a stealth game or a game based on a party member's past (though that would probably have worked better for DLC).
shinobi602
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Mostly true for non-human female characters.
That said I remember this showing a rather poor side of ME's modelling and reiterated the issue that we still have, i.e. lack of proper animation from under the chin down to the neck (including adam's apple) which can lead to some awkward looking models:
Very true, I was mostly referring to the faces, but I agree animation overall needs to drastically improve in the next Mass Effect. Hope they work on making transitioning animations and running/taking cover really smooth and fluid.
But characters like Wrex, Grunt, Garrus, Shepard, Liara, Vega, etc had pretty damn good detail in the faces.
Yeah, what's up with that? Who is insane enough to kill him in ME1 other than for curiosity?
shinobi602
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They said it'll be the same style as the previous games (third person). They should keep it like that. It can't be anything other than an FPS or TPS given its use of weapons, and an FPS sounds terrible lol.
BabeSlayer
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Krogans are a plague I took out as many of them as I had an option to...
Star Falcon
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OP reminded me how much i loved ALL of the games. That ending though...
Interested to see where the series goes but the ending of Mass Effect 3 has made me pretty reluctant to invest heavily into another Bioware series.
Interested to see where the series goes but the ending of Mass Effect 3 has made me pretty reluctant to invest heavily into another Bioware series.
shinobi602
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Echoing the sentiment that it needs to have the overall ME1 vibe of exploration and mystery. A reboot is probably the only way to go as they kinda wrote themselves into a corner with the endings.
The whole "inclusiveness" message from them feels so hollow and manufactured as during Mass Effect 1 and 2 they are swearing up and down that Shepard is a pre-defined character and cannot be gay (But FemShep being a lesbian is OK though).
Methinks they changed their tune after somebody called them out on it.
The whole "inclusiveness" message from them feels so hollow and manufactured as during Mass Effect 1 and 2 they are swearing up and down that Shepard is a pre-defined character and cannot be gay (But FemShep being a lesbian is OK though).
Methinks they changed their tune after somebody called them out on it.
He's been pretty good with answering any inquiries I have, I'll give it a shot
*Krogan's high five*
(which mean headbutt)
Nice, keep asking!Also
shinobi602
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CharmingCharlie
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Whilst the animations and crappy textures were janky one of the biggest issues for me was the "magically appearing weapon" in in-game cutscenes. You know the kind of thing you spend most of the game with the Mattock because you love it then bang a cutscene happens and magically Shepard is now sporting the fucking Avenger for a cutscene.
Not really detailed, but hey at least they're most likely going to work on it:
Tell him GAF wants a return to Virmire.
shinobi602
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Hah I agree with that. I'm going to bring that up too, never hurts to let them know our feelings on these issues. Hopefully they'll fix details like that.
What's even more weird is that some cutscenes DO use your currently equipped weapon, while others use an Avenger or Predator. I'm not even sure if this is intended or a bug because of that. :lol
Thanks for asking questions shinobi, hopefully he doesn't get tired of your questions. ;p
shinobi602
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*Warning* GIFs ahead (took me awhile):
Progress made over the years:
KoTOR:
Carth The Sceptic
Small time punks
Tsundere
ME 1:
Shepard + Expendable asset
Dr. Chakwas
Liara T'Soni
ME2:
Shepard
Dr. Chakwas + Shepard (awkward)
Trinity
Liara Me'Horny
Shepard (again under different lights)
ME3:
The many facets of Shepard
Liara's many moods
Dr. Chakwas the alcholic
Now from what I've seen, ME games tend to have a more realistic and higher fidelity visuals (including characters). So given what we saw of DA Inquisition, can what can we expect of ME4?
For reference:
DA 2:
Dwarf plus Dominatrix
DA Inquisition (great hair):
Dwarf (?) crouches
Warrior looks on
Aeryn Sun/Vala Mal Doran/Chloe?
Progress made over the years:
KoTOR:
Carth The Sceptic
Small time punks
Tsundere
ME 1:
Shepard + Expendable asset
Dr. Chakwas
Liara T'Soni
ME2:
Shepard
Dr. Chakwas + Shepard (awkward)
Trinity
Liara Me'Horny
Shepard (again under different lights)
ME3:
The many facets of Shepard
Liara's many moods
Dr. Chakwas the alcholic
Now from what I've seen, ME games tend to have a more realistic and higher fidelity visuals (including characters). So given what we saw of DA Inquisition, can what can we expect of ME4?
For reference:
DA 2:
Dwarf plus Dominatrix
DA Inquisition (great hair):
Dwarf (?) crouches
Warrior looks on
Aeryn Sun/Vala Mal Doran/Chloe?
shinobi602
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The dwarf's name is Varric and the woman in the last gif is Morrigan
Nice GIFs, makes me want to put some images together and post too. *starts googling*
HDgaming42
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I think you're about to be fooled again...
I'm so done giving them second chances. I stuck to my guns and RENTED ME3 like I said I would. I've held off on picking it up--for $8.95 most recently because it is the only way I can send them a message they understand. And I'm a completionist. That's how hard they dropped the ball on ME3. An entire series narrative cast aside, and the majority of your choices having zero consequence beyond filling a bar...
So to stay on topic--I'm looking forward to them retconning out the entirety of 3 and giving us the real third chapter in the femshep saga. Until then, colour me unimpressed.
And don't tell me "they've said they're done with Sheppard" because we all know what the word of BioWare is worth nowadays...
The dwarf's name is Varric and the woman in the last gif is Morrigan
Nice GIFs, makes me want to put some images together and post too. *starts googling*
I'll raise thee a few more in the mean time:
I hope for space related battles and other scenarios with fidelity like this:
Others:
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Also can you imagine playing ME4 with character fidelity very close to this:
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Also can you imagine playing ME4 with character fidelity very close to this:
Is that from SW:TFU2? If not where?
Mutanthands
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I'll keep an open min...bah, who am I fooling. I'll definitely be buying the next game. I'm looking forward to hearing more, and seeing the first screens.
I am a little concerned, as I though that Omega was a weak add-on. Things could go wrong.
The key thing to realize is that the magic that was the original Mass Effect is long gone. It's not going to happen again. I'm not going to go into the next game expecting it, or bust. Give me a solid, enjoyable game that gives me more adventures in the Mass Effect universe, and I'll be happy.
I expect the next game that grabs a hold of me like Mass Effect did is going to be some new IP we don't even know about yet, from some previously unheralded team toiling away as we speak.
I am a little concerned, as I though that Omega was a weak add-on. Things could go wrong.
The key thing to realize is that the magic that was the original Mass Effect is long gone. It's not going to happen again. I'm not going to go into the next game expecting it, or bust. Give me a solid, enjoyable game that gives me more adventures in the Mass Effect universe, and I'll be happy.
I expect the next game that grabs a hold of me like Mass Effect did is going to be some new IP we don't even know about yet, from some previously unheralded team toiling away as we speak.
Yeah it's from Force Unleashed 2, but they did the whole thing of getting real actors to voice and play the characters unlike Mass Effect.
shinobi602
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Also can you imagine playing ME4 with character fidelity very close to this:
Honestly I'm expecting quality that good. We already see some pretty stunning character models in Battlefield 4, and that's just an FPS by DICE, where the main focus most likely isn't on the fidelity of the characters, unlike the Mass Effect games.
I'm expecting some downright spectacular models and faces in the next ME.
I beat ME3 today. A little disappointed by the finale, but no complaints with the ending. I found this one too be far too heavy on the linear cover shooter mechanics. Additionally, basically all of my characters in ME2 died and thus I only got Edi, James and Liara for the entirety of ME3. A little lame for me.
That being said, I'm still very stoked for next gen Mass Effect. I want more options, more conversation and a deeper squad system if they are going to stick with it.
That being said, I'm still very stoked for next gen Mass Effect. I want more options, more conversation and a deeper squad system if they are going to stick with it.
Escape Goat
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I hope they get some better character models. And have their artists actually look at hair.
Blake'sGrave
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I've been having an overwhelming urge to play through the whole series again, even though I've beaten it all about 3 times, what is wrong with me! ME3 was by no means my favourite but I feel like enough time's passed that I can just enjoy it and not get too hung up on the stuff I didn't like.
Femshep playthrough here I come, love those Janeway vibes!
Femshep playthrough here I come, love those Janeway vibes!
EatChildren
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I'd say Dragon Age: Inquisition is a good metric for the kind of character quality you'll see in Mass Effect 4.
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