It went from amazing to great, the current unfinished arc aside. *shrugs
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The Naruto Anime Ending is the worst handled anime ending I've seen
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It went from amazing to great, the current unfinished arc aside. *shrugs
SoulUnison
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Unknown One
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One Piece has been dragging as well. There is tons of stalling in One Piece and in episode fillers. 1 chapter should not equal 1 episode ever. It creates a terrible viewing and rewatching experience.
SoulUnison
Banned
But aren't you interested in the upteenth strong but troubled young boy/girl who has eyes that remind everyone of Naruto and who you'll never see again once we conveniently solve the problem of the week?\
It's weird how hard Toei fights to avoid filler when One Piece was the only one of the Big 3 that ever really had "tolerable" filler in the first place.
Most people are surprised to learn the G-8 arc following Skypiea is entirely filler.
I think they're just consciously want to expend the least amount of effort possible.
Doflamingo one was already boring as all hell. It wasn't at the great ninja war level, but It was this close to be.
The Doflamingo arc wasn't good? I've just started that (getting into the Colosseum stuff).
The "death" episode and dealing with it was the highlight for me and everything before it was upper tier, and then the Jesus thing happened and I was like "well, this isn't as good as before but it's not really bad" and then the ending ruined everything. Dagger in my heart n all that.
GuitarAtomik
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I think I'm ready for Naruto Abridged lol.
I will say that the arcs after Dressrosa make for a much more interesting weekly read (But then again, I only really remember that long Doffy fight), but I wouldn't say the arc was bad or boring.
Since you're able to binge it, I suspect you won't feel the same.
This acquaintance watched the entire thing, and rated it a 10/10. I was flabbergasted...
It had too much hype, specially since doflamingo was teased for more than a decade, but it dragged so much it's insane, with lots of plots that don't add much and no one cares.
It's my least favorite Arc on the whole series. Although, i was reading the manga weekly. Seringa everything on one go might be differnt.
mrhyderager
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Yep. End thread.
We went from this
to that trash ending, both trash endings.
I have no fucking clue how Bleach went from that ultra atmospheric, excellently orchestrated first several arcs to basically everything after Aizen. I wish it would have ended there.
Naruto was pretty solid but frankly I'm pissed they didn't animate his becoming the Hokage. Literally the whole underlying point of the whole story. C'mon.
I watched/read Naruto up to a point during the final war. I don't quite remember where I stopped, but it was really far along in the war. I tried to pick up in the anime where I left off. It's so confusing that i just dropped it. I don't think I'll ever really finish the show.
I quit bleach like right after souls society because they just wouldn't conclude shit. So Naruto is the worst anime ending for me.
I quit bleach like right after souls society because they just wouldn't conclude shit. So Naruto is the worst anime ending for me.
Callibretto
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I like Naruto manga ending, yeah the war is waaay too long and reading them weekly is torture, and Kaguya came out of nowhere. but the final battle with Kaguya, and then Sasuke is cool. I also like the epilogue with Naruto becoming the Hokage and you see the new generation.
I don't know why Kishi thought it's a good idea to switch the final boss so suddenly though. they could just let Madara become the final boss and have the exact same battle with Sasuke and epilogue and it probably wont change much.
is Kaguya appearing as final boss is just a setup for Boruto series? because it looks like the ookutusuki clan will be the new big bad in Boruto series. even momoshiki and kinshiki from Boruto movie didn't look like they're the last of the clan.
I don't know why Kishi thought it's a good idea to switch the final boss so suddenly though. they could just let Madara become the final boss and have the exact same battle with Sasuke and epilogue and it probably wont change much.
is Kaguya appearing as final boss is just a setup for Boruto series? because it looks like the ookutusuki clan will be the new big bad in Boruto series. even momoshiki and kinshiki from Boruto movie didn't look like they're the last of the clan.
We don't know why either...
And I dunno what the fuck is gonna happen in Boruto, but right now I'm enjoying that the main characters have yet to go all DBZ-lite on us.
No idea, but that's just not a good enough reason
Callibretto
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We don't know why either...
And I dunno what the fuck is gonna happen in Boruto, but right now I'm enjoying that the main characters have yet to go all DBZ-lite on us.
momoshiki and kinshiki in boruto anime series give me some Saiyan vibes. I'm half expecting Kaguya to come back somehow as good guy fighting a bunch of invader from another dimension.
Welfare
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Kishi flat out admitted Madara had no weakness after becoming the Juubi host and only when Madara finally stated he would get serious is when Zetsu betrayed him.
Here is the quote - "All people, even the strongest ones, have weaknesses, however, Madara does not."- Kishi
Kishi had no way to beat him so Madara was replaced by a weaker villain.
Yeah me neither and I'm not sure why it changed either. After Aizen I can't even tell you what happened because everything else was just a crazy blur that I don't remember.
As for Naruto, Madara was Madara but it was easy to see how he wouldn't be the main villain. That entire series was leading up to Sasuke being the final boss, it just had bad execution and if not Sasuke it should have been Obito. Madara was strong but the guy was basically an older Sasuke which Sasuke surpassed. Kishi's problem was execution, he could have done a lot of things better.
Why would you ever make a villain that strong.
Both Naruto, FT and Bleach had this problem to different extent
The Silver
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I won't lie I loved how OP Madara was, there was never a bigger moment in the manga where I had a "they are completely fucked" reaction than when Madara dropped the meteor. That one panel completely changed the scale of the manga(for the worse but I still liked it)
And then blind shirtless Madara fighting the entire army by himself and winning was too badass for me. That was some Luca Blight shit he was doing.
And then blind shirtless Madara fighting the entire army by himself and winning was too badass for me. That was some Luca Blight shit he was doing.
Oda hasn't had a huge drop in quality unlike Bleach or Naruto.
Sasuke being the final villain was always going to be stupid imo, I just didn't know how stupid it would be.
Obito being the final villain would've also been stupid, because then it eventually hits you that the final villain basically did everything he did because of a girl who never even loved him in a romantic sense. Where you realize that yes, Kakashi's childhood friend who was long thought to be dead is the final villain of the manga. It'd be pretty lame, as good as the reveal was. Not to mention him being the final villain would be silly considering Madara orchestrated everything.
At least with Madara, he's been hyped for quite a long time, so it'd be fitting for it to end with him.
Too bad Madara was a villain sue
Well yea, in the end Naruto is like Bleach in that there's a point that you wished the manga would've ended instead, but it doesn't suddenly make it good, just... a bit better.
Psychoward
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I've never watched it bc it looked like trash but why does he have cat whiskers
Is the escalation problem in a nutshell with shonen
The Silver
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Tobi went downhill fast after he took off the mask, should've never had his identity revealed. Write it so there's hints and contradictions so he could be multiple people after his con job of not being Madara is revealed. He could've been a great final villain if they went a different direction, Tobi was the evil of what it meant to be a ninja personified(faceless,intangible,etc) while Naruto was the "good".
There was no way that Madara was going to be the final villain imo given he's basically an older Sasuke and Hashirama was Naruto. Given those 2 were benchmarks it wouldn't have worked. Obito's different considering he's basically Naruto and Sasuke both in one character so it would work as a teamup but Madara no matter who he was just seemed like he wouldn't have fit that portion given Sasuke had to surpass him.
But yeah Kishi could have done Obito's heel turn better, could have done the Kaguya fight better, even Madara's inclusion himself because overall it just felt off. One thing about the series is that as soon as part 2 hit something felt horrible off about the execution, like something was always missing whether it was accurate character motivation or the fights or just, idk, something. I can't even think of 1 moment in part 2 that I heavily loved and if so I'd say the Sasuke/Itachi fight was done perfectly. The Sasuke/Obito stuff was great, Sasuke/Deidara, just early part 2 stuff.
Once the War Arc happened things took a drastic turn. Before that though it was passable if not pretty good. I just don't know what happened.
Meanwhile One Piece is kind of bout to tackle that head-on with a dude that can't die (Then again, he has been captured/defeated before) and isn't known for losing 1v1 fights, but we've known about him for awhile as opposed to Kaguya coming out of nowhere, so let's see how that goes before judging.
I guess it only really becomes an issue in terms of someone wanting to take over the world or some shit anyways, or a dude with 5 DFs or something (Blackbeard please don't)
Yea, that could've worked.
I mean, I feel like that's easy to say now considering the manga ended, but I can't imagine that many people thought Kaguya was gonna show up lol, along with Black Zetsu saying that everything Madara believed in was a lie...
Anyways, my point is that anything would've been better than Kaguya, but like you said, it isn't saying much.
I am sure that will happen. As we are already getting what happened on the rushed ending of Negima, via flashbacks, about Nagi and such. Really feels like Akamatsu wants to correct the rushed ending of Negima.
As for Naruto... the anime ending was bad and really dragged. They needed to show more Naruto and Hinata interactions. And how Madara exited the scene was the worst!
MaximumSpider
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Fuck whoever thought 2 minute and 30 second openings, 5 minute recaps of the previous episode, and 1 chapter per episode was a good idea.
Naruto?
When he was a baby he had a demon-fox spirit sealed inside him. There's a few others like him (9? total) and the ones I remember vaguely resembled their inner animal beasties
Monochromaticx
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naruto was trash after the chunin exam arc. the anime fillers made it even worse.
the author already has the ending of one piece planned out which might mean we get a decent ending out of it. getting to the ending is where oda might go wrong but i have faith in him. this current arc is pretty good and the next one looks to be good as well.
ChubbyHuggs
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The only thing I'm pissed about is that Sasuke somehow over came the gap in power between Naruto and him to even have a final clash.
Yeah. Naruto ended badly. But I think that's a factor of it being profitable. The publisher wanted it to run for more years than there were ideas.
Bleach suffered considerably more from this. If the story ended after the soul society arc with some changes for closure. Bleach would be well regarded. But it continued without direction souring the fan base.
A lot of TV series in the US suffer from the same issue with multiple series that need to continue introducing conflict and development.
Bleach suffered considerably more from this. If the story ended after the soul society arc with some changes for closure. Bleach would be well regarded. But it continued without direction souring the fan base.
A lot of TV series in the US suffer from the same issue with multiple series that need to continue introducing conflict and development.
BassForever
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Shippuden still basically adapted all the canon manga material even if at a shitty pacing. If you want to argue of anime adaptations that adapted the entire manga then maybe your argument holds water. When you add the dozens of manga adaptations that either never finisbed (bleach, ruroni kenshin, toriko),had adaptations that didn't even attempt to tell the manga story (negima, uq holder), or just bad adaptations (berserk) its easy to see Shippuden was handled far better then most even with garbage pacing.
Sleight of Jam
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I'd go as far to say even the final fight was terrible.
Rushed, forced, unimaginative (minus the last part of the fight), clearly chakra didn't mean shit in the final arc.
Rushed, forced, unimaginative (minus the last part of the fight), clearly chakra didn't mean shit in the final arc.
I hope that One Piece avoids the lame ending of its peers. Please, please dont make the legendary treasure simply as a friendship/nakama power twist. Shit is overused. Make it something substantial like an actual treasure that allows the user to control devil-fruit powers or something.
The best ending?
DrunkShogun
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It's why I give props to the hunter x hunter anime. It sucks they had to stop where they did but it was a good enough conclusion and they didn't resort to fillers. Shonen manga just last for too long and there's only the occasional writer who is able to improvise good content. Think you could probably remove half of bleach and naruto resulting in a stronger product.
