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The official Civilization IV thread
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SpoonyBard
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Yeah. It's strange how they took away the seperate attack and defence stats, but added units that can't attack at all.
Spent some time playing multiplayer. Surprisingly stable and smooth. No crashes, bugs, or other weirdness. Very comfortable to play on voicecom. Run it in a window, alt tab and do other stuff till you hear the chime for your turn, then go manage your empire - and turns are all simultaneous.
You can easily discuss what techs to research (tech tree is shared for your team, and you can each research whatever you want!), what to build, where to attack, how to develop, and how to expand. Lot of fun.
I could see 2v2v2 games being very enjoyable.
Pace wasn't bad on normal, on Quick, you could probably complete a game in a few hours with dedicated players.
Conversely, the save system works well, so there's nothing stopping a massive multiplayer brawl on a huge map with Epic time scale.
You can easily discuss what techs to research (tech tree is shared for your team, and you can each research whatever you want!), what to build, where to attack, how to develop, and how to expand. Lot of fun.
I could see 2v2v2 games being very enjoyable.
Pace wasn't bad on normal, on Quick, you could probably complete a game in a few hours with dedicated players.
Conversely, the save system works well, so there's nothing stopping a massive multiplayer brawl on a huge map with Epic time scale.
Myoclonic Jerk
Member
How's multi-player by email thingy work?
Teknopathetic said:
We finally got around to finishing this game yesterday evening (which he won on points; I had been in the lead for most of the time but he snuck past me towards the end by building the Internet and the United Nations). Impressions: Civ4 is very crashy in multiplayer. There were lots of times that one or other of us would crash out to the desktop and have to reconnect. Also, despite the fact that I checked I'd got my Gamespy login correct on gamespyid.com, Civ4 wouldn't accept it, so I had to make a "new" one (which is identical to my "old" one). The in-game browser is pretty poor, it's constantly scrolling as games appear and disappear from the list, making it a bit difficult to scroll down to a particular game name. There doesn't seem to be any sort of "filter" or "search" feature which could be used to narrow down the list and eliminate the scrolling, though you can sort the columns. As far as the game itself went, it was pretty good, though it did get pretty slow towards the end game. Achieving victories other than a time-based victory seems to require much more forward planning now: cultural victories are extremely difficult, requiring three cities with "Legendary Culture" (which as it turns out is 50000 culture points) and it seems to get any particular type of victory you really need to plan out your research path almost from the start. I still haven't quite got the hang of which technologies are the key ones - Alphabet has been elevated to this status now, because it enables technology trading, but I'm going to have to study the tech tree a bit more to work out the others.
Anyone else experience this bug/glitch?
I goto load a game save while an advisor window or civ contact window , when the save loads, the window will still be on screen, dispite not exsisting in that save.
Also, sometimes the rollover captions do not appear for units/tech/wonders/buildings.
I goto load a game save while an advisor window or civ contact window , when the save loads, the window will still be on screen, dispite not exsisting in that save.
Also, sometimes the rollover captions do not appear for units/tech/wonders/buildings.
So my girlfriend was just finishing up a game, when she asked me how she should end it. I usualy play for the peacefull win (Diplomatic/Space Race/Time), and she likes to conquest. Since everyone already hated her from her endless wars, I suggested she should try out the nukes. She qued one up, and I asked her to let me know when it was ready to go - a few turns later she called me over and we launched it into the heart of London. There was a cool animation, but it didn't really do any damage. Before the attack there were two longbowmen defending the city, and after the attack there were still two longbowmen defending the city. They had only been half damaged! We couldn't believe how lame the nukes in Civ4, and I walked away a bit sad (nothing like wanton nuclear annhialation to brighten one's day).
So I head over to civfanatcs to see how others felt about the nukes, and found this after running a quick forum search:
Whoa!
So I guess nukes aren't worthless after all, you just need to up thier megaton-age a bit if you really want to do some damage.
So I head over to civfanatcs to see how others felt about the nukes, and found this after running a quick forum search:
Whoa!
So I guess nukes aren't worthless after all, you just need to up thier megaton-age a bit if you really want to do some damage.
EDIT: Ok, I got it to work. God bless Civ 4!
Here's the fix for the 'Int Audio' error:
http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=132992
Here's the fix for the 'Int Audio' error:
http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=132992
got the game a couple days ago, its pretty fucking fun. (never played a civ game before :X)
my only problem is... wtf is with all the glitches? fuck the battles are a lagged, glitched up mess (and I'm using a brand new computer that can play BF2 flawless)
control glitches, animation glitches, sound glitches, random crashing... yay for PC gaming! :\
my only problem is... wtf is with all the glitches? fuck the battles are a lagged, glitched up mess (and I'm using a brand new computer that can play BF2 flawless)
control glitches, animation glitches, sound glitches, random crashing... yay for PC gaming! :\
Take2 just bought Firaxis
http://www.gamespot.com/pc/strategy/civilizationiv/news.html?sid=6139318
As for the game, i'm having lots of fun. My only problem right now is learning the tech tree and not making stupid mistakes when it comes to my research.
The game is HARDER than Civ3. Lots of the tech trading loopholes that allowed players on Diety to leapfrog the AI and destroy them playing with only 1 city has been closed. I'm having to adjust to that too.
http://www.gamespot.com/pc/strategy/civilizationiv/news.html?sid=6139318
As for the game, i'm having lots of fun. My only problem right now is learning the tech tree and not making stupid mistakes when it comes to my research.
The game is HARDER than Civ3. Lots of the tech trading loopholes that allowed players on Diety to leapfrog the AI and destroy them playing with only 1 city has been closed. I'm having to adjust to that too.
Patch is out via the auto updater....
Changes:
- increased cost of Apollo Program...
- increased SS parts cost...
- Animal Husbandry reveals Horses
- tweaked Rifling, Chemistry, Steel, and Railroad tech costs...
- increased late-game tech costs...
- can now add two specialists in size 1 city with Mercantilism...
- final score is now modified by difficulty level...
- Speed up load times
- Global performance enhancements
Added:
- Include WB map size in the description field
- Save login name
- Added password encryption
- Added regenerate Map Button to World builder Map Mode...
- checkbox for using low resolution textures
- more logging for init failure
- minspec / video memory checking
- Added ability to change to and from fullscreen while in-game
- holding during startup will clean out the cache
- improved bink playback, added ini options
Fixes:
- ATI issue Failed to Init Renderer Fixed
- Multiplayer Lobby list jump problem and lobby crash fixed
- fixed war weariness calculation bug...
- units maintain their name when upgraded
- fixed Gold-for-Gold diplo exploit...
- fixed no research choice overflow exploit...
- Fix for voice initialization crash
- Fix addressing takeover AI and retirement OOS.
- Fixed issue with diplomacy text being always used in its first form in the translator.
- Popups, screens, and diplomacy properly cleared when exiting from main menu.
- Games protected by admin passwords (only) cannot be loaded if the version is different from the one that created the save
- Fixed bug where player could not offer any deal to other human in PBEM/Hotseat
- Sorting by date on domestic advisor now works.
- fixed bug where settlers could not move if the strategy layer was selected
- fixed Ironworks...
- fixed AI units not obeying open borders rules on declaration of war...
- fixed bug that prevent placing of units in world-builder
- fixed bug that prevented gifting of units to a human player
- stack attack infinite loop fixed
- Civic screen update fix (wasnt showing the right maintenance and anarchy values)
- ctrl-g crash fix, optimized city bar art
- fixed right-click menu crash
- Intro movie crashing problems
Changes:
- increased cost of Apollo Program...
- increased SS parts cost...
- Animal Husbandry reveals Horses
- tweaked Rifling, Chemistry, Steel, and Railroad tech costs...
- increased late-game tech costs...
- can now add two specialists in size 1 city with Mercantilism...
- final score is now modified by difficulty level...
- Speed up load times
- Global performance enhancements
Added:
- Include WB map size in the description field
- Save login name
- Added password encryption
- Added regenerate Map Button to World builder Map Mode...
- checkbox for using low resolution textures
- more logging for init failure
- minspec / video memory checking
- Added ability to change to and from fullscreen while in-game
- holding during startup will clean out the cache
- improved bink playback, added ini options
Fixes:
- ATI issue Failed to Init Renderer Fixed
- Multiplayer Lobby list jump problem and lobby crash fixed
- fixed war weariness calculation bug...
- units maintain their name when upgraded
- fixed Gold-for-Gold diplo exploit...
- fixed no research choice overflow exploit...
- Fix for voice initialization crash
- Fix addressing takeover AI and retirement OOS.
- Fixed issue with diplomacy text being always used in its first form in the translator.
- Popups, screens, and diplomacy properly cleared when exiting from main menu.
- Games protected by admin passwords (only) cannot be loaded if the version is different from the one that created the save
- Fixed bug where player could not offer any deal to other human in PBEM/Hotseat
- Sorting by date on domestic advisor now works.
- fixed bug where settlers could not move if the strategy layer was selected
- fixed Ironworks...
- fixed AI units not obeying open borders rules on declaration of war...
- fixed bug that prevent placing of units in world-builder
- fixed bug that prevented gifting of units to a human player
- stack attack infinite loop fixed
- Civic screen update fix (wasnt showing the right maintenance and anarchy values)
- ctrl-g crash fix, optimized city bar art
- fixed right-click menu crash
- Intro movie crashing problems
Greenpanda
Banned
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