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The Official Conduit thread.
- Thread starter A Human Becoming
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sdizzy said:
it is interesting that the gamepro review would complain about the controls when they are completely customizable. It is almost as if he decided to ignore a feature that would negate his complaints so that he would have something to be negative about other than the usual wii graphics and FPS story complaints. If you can customize the controls to your liking and you dont like the controls, who's fault is that? I can already see the scribblenauts review from this guy:
"scribblenauts has the potential for compelling gameplay, but the general lack of focus results in wasted potential"
VegaShinra
Junior Member
Most won't until tomorrow.PusherT said:
EmCeeGramr
Member
To get away from OMGZDEYHATEDAWII-chat, here's three new videos from GameTrailers.
http://www.gametrailers.com/video/urban-gameplay-the-conduit/51854
http://www.gametrailers.com/video/urban-gameplay-the-conduit/51853
http://www.gametrailers.com/video/institutional-mp-the-conduit/51850
http://www.gametrailers.com/video/urban-gameplay-the-conduit/51854
http://www.gametrailers.com/video/urban-gameplay-the-conduit/51853
http://www.gametrailers.com/video/institutional-mp-the-conduit/51850
dammitmattt
Banned
FYI, my local Gamestop manager drove out to get Fight Night Round 4 early, but The Conduit is coming in the normal morning shipment tomorrow.
dammitmattt
Banned
dyls said:
There's a huge difference between toggling something on/off as it is to setting up bounding boxes and all of the complex stuff you can do to configure The Conduit. That's why you need to give the gamer some great default controls if you're going to give them a ton of configurable options.
And for the record, you only have to change this one time on the 360 in your system settings, and then every game knows your setting
Fantastical
Death Prophet
Yeah, if you want a chance at getting it early, Target and Walmart are the places to check.
DeaconKnowledge
Member
dammitmattt said:There's a huge difference between toggling something on/off as it is to setting up bounding boxes and all of the complex stuff you can do to configure The Conduit. That's why you need to give the gamer some great default controls if you're going to give them a ton of configurable options.
And for the record, you only have to change this one time on the 360 in your system settings, and then every game knows your setting
I await the PC games that get bad reviews for this then.
dammitmattt
Banned
DeaconKnowledge said:
Core PC gamers are much more knowledgeable and patient than your average console owner. Even then, I don't think you could find a PC FPS with more configuration options just for viewing/aiming than The Conduit.
Fantastical
Death Prophet
Okay, there's no problems with noting that at all. It is dumb if HVS doesn't give good settings in the beginning, but then going on to say that the motion controls are "terrible" is really stupid in my opinion.dammitmattt said:
Davey Cakes
Member
People really shouldn't be worried about The Conduit. Most knew the game wasn't going to get blowout scores from the beginning, and it looks like even those who have tons of gripes with the game still give it decent scores.
Hell, Matt from IGN sounded impressed with the game (enough to give it an 8.0 at least) before even getting into the multiplayer.
Think of it this way: you can strip the game of its competent online mode and it's still a solid (if not good) game, that may be a tad overpriced since the SP tops out at under 8 hours. But, with the online, it's a pretty darn good package, and something that should mostly deliver for Wii gamers with a craving for a ground-up Wii FPS.
Hell, Matt from IGN sounded impressed with the game (enough to give it an 8.0 at least) before even getting into the multiplayer.
Think of it this way: you can strip the game of its competent online mode and it's still a solid (if not good) game, that may be a tad overpriced since the SP tops out at under 8 hours. But, with the online, it's a pretty darn good package, and something that should mostly deliver for Wii gamers with a craving for a ground-up Wii FPS.
Nice Videos. Seems like every time I see a video the person playing is using different control sensitivity. Kind of makes me feel like I can't trust when a reviewer says the controls aren't good because they could have just played with the defaults or just screwed up their settings.EmCeeGramr said:
Ever since GamePro bragged about being the only magazine to bash FFVIII as way to make them seem somehow more honest than other outlets, I've hated them with a passion that will only be quelled when I drink the blood of their children from a cup made from the bones of their wives.
DevelopmentArrested
Banned
from the people asking.
TORONTO
downtown futureshop and gameshack have it 55$.
TORONTO
downtown futureshop and gameshack have it 55$.
DeaconKnowledge
Member
dammitmattt said:
Cut the bullshit dm. The reviewer didn't want to bother, and trashed the game for something that was easily customizable and fixable, but chose not to. Hell, he didn't even MENTION it.
I grant you that the average console owner doesn't have the presence of mind as in the know PC gamers, but that's what a review is for; to inform of quality. Hard to do when the reviewer can barely be bothered to tinker with the game for a few minutes, or even read the blurbs that are all over the damn net and assuredly in the press kits Gamepro received.
I do think this game will throw into sharp relief just how bad the piracy problem is on Wii. There seems to be almost an understanding in the hardcore community that you buy 360 games and steal Wii games. Both because of the incredible ease of piracy on the Wii as well as a sort of perceived lack of value of Wii games, a sort of "they're not next-gen, they're not really worth my money."
Something like this with a rather advanced online system could make it pretty clear if more people are playing online than actually bought the game. Who's going to follow the number of downloads on the torrent sites?
Something like this with a rather advanced online system could make it pretty clear if more people are playing online than actually bought the game. Who's going to follow the number of downloads on the torrent sites?
DeaconKnowledge
Member
dyls said:
Popular consoles get pirated. The only reason it would be disproportionate to wii is because of its popularity.
Fantastical
Death Prophet
Huh? I think you're exaggerating quite a bit.dyls said:
sevenchaos
Banned
Those three new videos looked awesome. I don't care that this game doesn't do anything new. Kevin Sorbo is hot and I'm ready to do whatever he tells me.
Danthrax said:
Let me take some time away from Conduit to single out your post for a pet peeve of mine.
When people say "WELL THAT'S JUST LIKE THE WAY IT IS IN REAL LIFE", they kinda miss the point of games. In games, most things are not like real life at all. Even in the most fucking gritty, balls-to-the-wall reality simulation you can think of, most shit is never, ever going to be done precisely like it is in real life.
Can you imagine why that is, Danthrax?
Because a lot of regular shit in real life does not make for good gameplay. When people often talk up the benefits of 1:1 motion controls, the hope is that it transfers things in life which are fun. Not that it can accurately recreate terribly tedious every day activities, or the lame parts of gunplay.
This has nothing to do with the review. Gamepro sucks and they can suck my dick. I just thought I should point out that saying "THAT'S LIKE REAL LIFE" is a poor defense of anything in games in regards to quality gameplay.
P.S. My copy of Conduit shipped. yay!
A Twisty Fluken
Member
Amir0x said:
holy shit, i agree with amirox
except for the fact that i actually think whacking someone with the butt of a gun would be rather fun
A Twisty Fluken said:
i didn't actually mean my post to be a commentary on whether that specific action is fun or not. I think whacking someone with the butt of a gun is fun too, though I could see some issues with it getting in the way of fast, efficient gunplay.
I just wanted to get on my soapbox and discuss the issue of defending certain gameplay by saying "that's the way it is in real life." If you think the gameplay is fun, it's because the activity itself is fun to you.
Cow Mengde
Banned
A Twisty Fluken said:
You know, why hasn't anyone made a first person butt of gun whacker? With all the shooters, it would be refreshing to have one based around whacking someone with the butt of your gun instead. You get a gun, but no bullets. All you do is whack people with the butt of the gun.
poppabk
Cheeks Spread for Digital Only Future
Amir0x said:
I agree up until the point where I hate overpowered melee attacks in FPS's and often find them incredibly unbalanced and unfun. If it makes meleeing someone a little more of a risk and helps reduce the "running round in circles with each other hammering the melee button until someone connects dance" then I am all for it. I already know it doesn't eliminate it because I have seen the stupid melee dance in conduit videos already.
mysticstylez
Banned
Cow Mengde said:
You can always play Halo with just the pistol.
Cow Mengde
Banned
Amir0x said:
Lack of ammo.
DeaconKnowledge
Member
Cow Mengde said:
This needs more time in the oven. A lot more.
dammitmattt
Banned
DeaconKnowledge said:
If you had read my original comment, you would have known that I was making a general statement about the response to the review, not anything specific about this game or this review. I even said that I'm sure The Conduit's defaults are fine.