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[Raging Spaniard]

Ono admitted to the Vanessa ripoff.

There was a definite SNK direction taken with this game- though I see it as more Fatal Fury then KOF with the invincible backdashes, ultra being gained by getting hit, char designs, focus attack faking, etc...

It feels like a hybrid of Real Bout and Garou with SF chars and 6-button controls at times.

The sad thing: Capcom did a better SNK game then what SNKP could ever pull off now.

Theres a difference between making a conscious decision and a reporter being all like

"HEY THIS VIPER CHARACTER LOOKS LIKE VANESSA AMIRITE?"
"um, I guess now that I look at it"
'RIPOFF CONFIRMED, ON TO THE INTERNETS"

 

[Kintaro]

*SNK Rant snip*.

RG, even Ono admitted C. Viper was SNK influenced. It's all good. It's not a bad thing. SNK's designs in KoF have been pretty darn awesome over the years (I prefer them to Capcom's personally). It's a fun thing with both of them play off each other as they have other the years.

But, see it how you want.

 

[Lyte Edge]

Still having a hard time against higher-ranked Honda players when using Cammy. Advice please; hit and run tactics seem to be the best bet.

The sad thing: Capcom did a better SNK game then what SNKP could ever pull off now.

SNK has been doing some amazing games these past few years, and KOF XII looks to be the game that everyone wanted SF4 to be in the first place.

 

[Zabka]

If they ripped off anyone with El Fuerte it'd be VF's El Blaze.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lXk2PUyPPYY

And El Blaze is a Rey Mysterio ripoff/tribute. They're all fishing in the same pond.

 

[gutter_trash]

I refuse to play C.Viper because of her SNKness
Bison headstomp her to hell

 

[Fersis]

And El Blaze is a Rey Mysterio ripoff/tribute. They're all fishing in the same pond.

Wut?
There is a great japanese wrestler who performed under the name of El Blazer... i always tought that it was because him and not Rey Mysterio *mind blown*
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sK_JgmjUbuQ

EDIT: Oh i get it now,you mean the outfit design? Yeah its Rey Mysterio. :lol

 

[gutter_trash]

Mexican wrestlers establishs career in Japan and the US just as Canadian and American Wrestlers do

Japan is a huge hub of Pro-Wrestling: Chris Jericho, Chris Benoit, Rey Misterio Jr, Eddie Guerrero all have worked in Japan before

Masked wrestlers, just like their Mexican counter parts, are huge in Japanese pro-wrestling

 

[Zapages]

You guys are right about Akuma players, they are so much fun to play against after you figure most of their thinking process during the match...:lol

Also any tips on how beat Trial Normal 11 with Ryu or any other character... I always end having to spam hadokens and shurukens... Which I find tedious and hurts my thumb in end of it all after you defeat Chun Li...

 

[Xater]

Ok this is driving me craza. I loos every time against these turtling Guiles with Blanka.

What can I do? They just crouch and wait for me to come.

 

[jonah777]

So I've finally started playing ranked matches now that I have my HRAP EX and a little practice under by belt and... yeah... back to practice. It takes getting used to, but I really enjoy playing Bison with the stick. Anyone use him the most here? If anyone is up for some matches, let me know.

edit:
gutter_trash... I just noticed the avatar You're in Mtl too, right?

 

[Xater]

So I've finally started playing ranked matches now that I have my HRAP EX and a little practice under by belt and... yeah... back to practice. It takes getting used to, but I really enjoy playing Bison with the stick. Anyone use him the most here? If anyone is up for some matches, let me know.

I tried out Bison today too and I think I may make him a regular of mine. Never thought I would like charger characters.

 

[vala]

Well... this game was developed by former SNK staff .

 

[Spy]

I brought my PS3 and SFIV to work today. Were going to play on the projector in the conference room during lunch. :lol

 

[sixteen-bit]

I brought my PS3 and SFIV to work today. Were going to play on the projector in the conference room during lunch. :lol

that's awesome

I trust the whole process will be easier once the PC version is out

 

[jonah777]

I tried out Bison today too and I think I may make him a regular of mine. Never thought I would like charger characters.

Same... I picked him once just to get reacquainted with charge characters and totally fell in lust. He has a deceptive amount of tricks under his hat. I look forward to my first hate mail. :lol

 

[Zabka]

Wut?
There is a great japanese wrestler who performed under the name of El Blazer... i always tought that it was because him and not Rey Mysterio *mind blown*
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sK_JgmjUbuQ

EDIT: Oh i get it now,you mean the outfit design? Yeah its Rey Mysterio. :lol

Looks like the El Blazer gimmick first appeared in 2006, the same year VF5 came out in Japanese arcades. I don't see any dates for his debut, but it's most likely that El Blazer was created after El Blaze was introduced (and maybe took the name from the game too).

I actually stumbled across this guy's blog last year who goes over El Fuerte's design, and then offers his own (more traditional and less interesting) takes on the character.

 

[gutter_trash]

So I've finally started playing ranked matches now that I have my HRAP EX and a little practice under by belt and... yeah... back to practice. It takes getting used to, but I really enjoy playing Bison with the stick. Anyone use him the most here? If anyone is up for some matches, let me know.

edit:
gutter_trash... I just noticed the avatar You're in Mtl too, right?

yup, and Montrealer and Charge Character lover (except for Guile)

 

[Kintaro]

Mexican wrestlers establishs career in Japan and the US just as Canadian and American Wrestlers do

Japan is a huge hub of Pro-Wrestling: Chris Jericho, Chris Benoit, Rey Misterio Jr, Eddie Guerrero all have worked in Japan before

Masked wrestlers, just like their Mexican counter parts, are huge in Japanese pro-wrestling

Well...this was true in the past. The Japanese pro-wrestling market has really taken a big tumble in the past...well, since 2000. =(

 

[jonah777]

yup, and Montrealer and Charge Character lover (except for Guile)

Good good, let me know when you're online and I'll send you a req. I'd like to see how you use him.

 

[gutter_trash]

Good good, let me know when you're online and I'll send you a req. I'd like to see how you use him.

my PSN is JeRkY
i am usually on during evenings, feel free to add me.

 

[jonah777]

my PSN is JeRkY
i am usually on during evenings, feel free to add me.

I'm on Live. no go?

 

[George Claw M.D.]

Sorry, SNK still has the worst boss ever:

 

[Killa Sasa]

No one here can tell me there is something better than a well time Ultra that just f*cks people's shit up You can almost hear the yelling "NOOOOOOOOOOO" coming from the other side

I remember someone in this thread said, it must piss people off because it takes control away from them and they just have to watch themselves get owned :lol.

 

[haunts]

Chun Li Combo Video is UP!

 

[gutter_trash]

Chun Li Combo Video is UP!

mucho thanks!!!

 

[Stantron]

Playing flowchart Kens with shitty connections is really annoying because if you go for a throw to punish them landing from a SRK, they catch you with another, or worse an ultra. :/ In this case, it's better to punish with a sweep well before they land to be safe.

 

[Stantron]

Chun Li Combo Video is UP!

*high five*

 

[TheFallen]

I think I'm about to give up on SF4. Been playing for weeks, unfortunately regardless of what I use (360 controller ******* or d-pad, even a madcatz arcade stick - also rented the PS3 version to try that out) I am having problems with the responsiveness of my attacks. Sometimes the supers/ultras work, and other times they just waste my EXs.

I'm not new to the franchise, I find it much easier to execute attacks in the 2D games just a fyi.

 

[omgimaninja]

I think I'm about to give up on SF4. Been playing for weeks, unfortunately regardless of what I use (360 controller ******* or d-pad, even a madcatz arcade stick - also rented the PS3 version to try that out) I am having problems with the responsiveness of my attacks. Sometimes the supers/ultras work, and other times they just waste my EXs.

I'm not new to the franchise, I find it much easier to execute attacks in the 2D games just a fyi.

Do you play online or with friends in real life? It can be frustrating getting beaten online when you can't pull off the right moves and whiff your ultras, but I do enjoy playing 2P versus with a buddy next to me on the couch.

I say stick with and just have fun! I need to work really hard on my timing too just so I can beat my friends next time I see them.

 

[Brobzoid]

Do a Balrog vid pls. I need some more advanced combos to complement my simple 3, 4 hit ones. And I can't get the timing down on some of them without visual reference.

 

[CPS2]

Chun Li Combo Video is UP!

Nice video! I'm getting the hang of EX legs into ultra now, yeah it definitely is her most useful ultra combo, the others are too unreliable.

 

[Yasser]

Chun Li Combo Video is UP!

my hero!

 

[haunts]

Nice video! I'm getting the hang of EX legs into ultra now, yeah it definitely is her most useful ultra combo, the others are too unreliable.

Hmm yeah the EX SBK works too but they will fly out of the corner a lot.. :\

and off of a FA sometimes its hard to react in time if you get the crumple.

 

[CPS2]

Off a crumple I do upkicks > ultra, this is her easiest ultra combo imo, but crumple is still riskier than EX legs.

 

[Shadow780]

If any east coast guys feel like playing just sent an invite over, I'll tackle more hard trials...

PSN: Shadow780

 

[Skilotonn]

I know some of the 'pros' dismiss El Fuerte because he is a: weak in health and b: "takes more work for the same win" but personally I don't get that attitude. Why should all characters be equal in complexity? Hard won wins can be rewarding. When you win against a strong opponent with El Fuerte (or Guile or Claw... lol?) you know that you have accomplished something and so does everyone else.

Plus I have a hard time seeing Fuerte as weak; the spaz does have some basic combos that hurt.

Yes - and I was honestly surprised at how much damage a standing HK into his leg grab does - comboing into it off of a Focus Attack crumble is such a satisfying feeling...

Speaking of FA, he also has the longest distance out of all the characters with his as well...

And nothing is as good as getting an unsuspecting person locked down with a Run Stop Overhead splash over and over... :lol

 

[Lyte Edge]

Gutter Trash WILL KICK YOUR ASS. HARD.

Just a warning! :lol

I refuse to play C.Viper because of her SNKness
Bison headstomp her to hell

I've been thinking of taking her up because of the SNK connection!

 

[haunts]

what? gutter TRASH, add me to xbl..

 

[Spiderjericho]

Hauntsy...

Gutter plays on PSN. I want to say his PSN is Jerky...

And has anyone fully, 100 percent completed the challenges? Jeez...they sure put a lot of replayability and unlockables in this game (too bad you couldn't unlock the alternate costumes).

And I like Capcom...Nightwarriors, Vampire Savior, Project Justice, SF2 Hyper, ST, TS, 2I, IV...

But they're designers are not as good as SNK's (or to a lesser extent Namco's in Tekken). Not a flame. If you don't agree, it's fine...just an opinion. I think Capcom's problem is they do generalizations...where as SNK is more stylistic (Lori, 1999 Kyo, K', MOTW Terry, etc). The new characters in SFIV don't really "gel" with the old cast. Whereas with III, it was a whole new gaggle of "freaks" (which were still oddly designed).

 

[haunts]

ohhhhhhhh damnit lyte edge you have it for BOTH.

 

[Won]

Man I try to start learning a shoto now that the shoryuken pack is out in the EU and I just can't do it after playing Fuerte for so long. No Air grab, no wall jumps, no easy running around on the screen. I feel so immobile.

 

[sixteen-bit]

Whereas with III, it was a whole new gaggle of "freaks" (which were still oddly designed).

I really like the cast of III. Except Twelve. Twelve can DIAF.

 

[Pezking]

that the shoryuken pack is out in the EU

WAT?

That's not true, is it?

We already got the Femme Fatale pack yesterday - one pack per week, right?

 

[MoxManiac]

Gutter Trash WILL KICK YOUR ASS. HARD.

Just a warning! :lol



I've been thinking of taking her up because of the SNK connection!

I couldn't beat his Honda. Believe me, I tried!

EDIT: Spidey, I noticed you pulled the SF3 = freaks card. But is there really that many? In 3s, I count what, five freaks out of 18 or something at most? (oro, necro, q, twelve, gill) That's not bad at all.

 

[gutter_trash]

Gutter Trash WILL KICK YOUR ASS. HARD.

Just a warning! :lol



I've been thinking of taking her up because of the SNK connection!

oooohhh them fightin' words!

Bring It!!!

-

@Haunts, I am tempted in getting the 360 version but I only have a MadCatz Pad for 360 (I got USB Saturns on PS3 and a PS2 Custom Sanwa)

If budget permits during tax returns, I may get the 360 version as well and renew gold..
but for now I am on PS3

 

[Kai Dracon]

But they're designers are not as good as SNK's (or to a lesser extent Namco's in Tekken). Not a flame. If you don't agree, it's fine...just an opinion. I think Capcom's problem is they do generalizations...where as SNK is more stylistic (Lori, 1999 Kyo, K', MOTW Terry, etc). The new characters in SFIV don't really "gel" with the old cast. Whereas with III, it was a whole new gaggle of "freaks" (which were still oddly designed).

Personally, I find that the new foursome in SFIV do feel at home after a while. You're right that Capcom tends to generalize on character designs, but that can be a feature, not a bug.

The Street Fighter cast traditionally has a more universal appeal to them; I recall when Abel was first shown, people said "what? he's so generic looking!" But some said just wait, after a short while he'll fit like he's always been there. To me, that happened. El Fuerte is also universal enough of an archetype that he fits into that Street Fighter vibe.

C.Viper and Rufus are much more experimental but they do still have enough of Capcom style charm that they work, for me.

The thing about Street Fighter III's cast that split the community was that the "freaks" were a conscious attempt by Capcom's designers to invent a whole new fighting game character aesthetic in one swoop. Where SF2 had "the SF2 look", III was supposed to have "the III look". I have to agree with people about Twelve though; no idea why they included him, since his general style of freakish character was already handled far better by Necro.

 

[Oldschoolgamer]

<3 Dictator.

That is all.

 

[Won]

WAT?

That's not true, is it?

We already got the Femme Fatale pack yesterday - one pack per week, right?

Femme Fatael was last friday, today is shoryuken time!

 

[AKingNamedPaul]

<3 Dictator.

That is all.

I'm thinking about making him my new main. I just feel guilty to high heavens for some reason, every time I try to start a new main.

Not to mention Vega is just plain cooler than the rest of the cast : (
Would be nice to be good with a character who isn't at such a disadvantage though.

 

[sixteen-bit]

Not to mention Vega is just plain cooler than the rest of the cast : (
Would be nice to be good with a character who isn't at such a disadvantage though.

Do you win a lot with him? Tiers shouldn't start dictating matches until high lever play.

I actually had a better record with Remy in 3S online over any other character, but that's probably just because he's so rare no one knows the matchup.

I like Vega a bunch, he's fun to play.