CJ's "His favourite Easter eggs are laid by a golden Gies" introduction was a moment of brilliance. Bravo.
CJ's "His favourite Easter eggs are laid by a golden Gies" introduction was a moment of brilliance. Bravo.
Is there Bioshock spoilers in this episode?!
Where's the video?
I thought Phil had previously referenced the Great Molasses Flood on the podcast. Maybe I'm just imagining that.
But if not, I think it's time for playeronepodcast.com/molassesflood, a page that archives the molasses flood episodes
Cheetah speed is still gone and the game itself is still completely broken in its sim aspects. I think a 4 is well deserved even after getting past the issue of not actually being able to play the game. Then again, it never should have been a 9 or whatever in the first place.Regarding the old discussion on the show about "living reviews," it's worth noting that Polygon continues to rate SimCity a 4. Surely it must be more playable at this point?
Cheetah speed is still gone and the game itself is still completely broken in its sim aspects. I think a 4 is well deserved even after getting past the issue of not actually being able to play the game. Then again, it never should have been a 9 or whatever in the first place.
The 4 may be a totally valid score in the end, but how they appear to have reached it and the accompanying text does not appear to be serving readers very well. If they're going to maintain that score based on new information they should adjust their review text accordingly.
Also, see how close the girl is to that wave? Given the rate that the molasses was moving, she and that dog didn't make it.
He's not crazy, guys.
Every time they do that, they make their 9.5 look more asinine. And their Diablo III review look like the result of complete grift.
The finish was pretty solid--mostly because it was a thirty-minute respite from shooting things. Pretty good game, overall. I'd definitely have enjoyed it more if they'd had the stones (or the time, or the inclination, or the forethought, whatever) to rid themselves of so many antiquated, vestigial elements of the ancient (in game years) original.Mike didn't finish Infinite yet. He has yet to see the light.
The finish was pretty solid--mostly because it was a thirty-minute respite from shooting things. Pretty good game, overall. I'd definitely have enjoyed it more if they'd had the stones (or the time, or the inclination, or the forethought, whatever) to rid themselves of so many antiquated, vestigial elements of the ancient (in game years) original.
(And yeah, I was right about my prediction of the big revelation. And yeah, it's the kind of shenanigans I don't really go for in stories, generally)
Yeah this is the obvious solution. Another option is to stick to your guns as far as the score but maybe add a bit of text explaining the situation. Raising or lowering the score days after release doesn't help anyone but themselves as it drives more traffic to their site.Not give a game that is royally fucked a 9.5 to begin with--that would have been my specific recommendation.
Just in this thread, they were being insulted for keeping the 4.5 even though servers issues were mostly fixed. And after they changed it they are now being made fun of for changing it. What could Polygon have done here?
Maybe I'm just reading deeper into some of these posts than I should or misunderstanding? Or confusing it with the actual thread about this. I don't know. I'm dumb.I might have missed where people were making fun of them for changing it.
I think if the game experience to them is as it was when they reviewed it, then it should go back to the 9.5 they originally had. Otherwise there would be a question about how much influence there was from the negativity surrounding the game that shouldn't really affect how they felt previously.I wonder if they'll update it again when/if EA/Maxis fixes the remaining issues. Think it'll go back to a 9.5?
Maybe I'm just reading deeper into some of these posts than I should or misunderstanding? Or confusing it with the actual thread about this. I don't know. I'm dumb.
I think if the game experience to them is as it was when they reviewed it, then it should go back to the 9.5 they originally had. Otherwise there would be a question about how much influence there was from the negativity surrounding the game that shouldn't really affect how they felt previously.
Changing the score because you believe it deserves less as the game isn't what it was when you reviewed it I think can be interesting. Changing the score because the internet doesn't agree with you is less interesting and brings into question the integrity of the reviewer.
I don't think a game review should change each and every time something good or something bad happens. Imagine re-scoring a game every time a title update comes out, or every time servers are down; that's pretty much what's happened here and it would be insane and confusing if everyone did that for every game. I think their original review and score was pretty laughable but they're entitled to their opinions and they should have stuck by it.Sure but that's already done. At least there was some attempt to fix it.
Alternatively, they could have just ignored everything and not tried to improve.
They're not the only site to have scored the game higher than it deserved. And they're not the only people who didn't notice all the issues it had until the game was released to the masses. Review time probably isn't enough to notice small things that people with much more time to play leisurely do.
I don't know. I can see why people want to pile on. It is a little funny watching it play out and while it's a nice idea, it is fundamentally flawed as they can't do it for every game. But I would encourage these sites to try to improve where they are weak. And an attempt to be better is what I see here.
Sometimes it just seems like the only way to have won here was to wait for public opinion. And then score accordingly.
I just can't find it in myself to damn a reviewer (and their site) for enjoying a game. There are a lot of games I rate way higher than other people and many games I rate way lower.
EDIT: As for "driving traffic to their site". That's what all these things are. Everything ever posted on any of these sites is for traffic. If Polygon is providing a service to an audience that wants it. Awesome. No one has to look if they don't want to.
I might have missed where people were making fun of them for changing it. I wonder if they'll update it again when/if EA/Maxis fixes the remaining issues. Think it'll go back to a 9.5?
And unfortunately that's exactly what they've done here. They scored a game with a bunch of fundamental flaws way too high (not things they had to dig very deeply to find, mind you. Too many have made that excuse).
Then they lower the score based on the service part of the game being broken.
Then when the servers are pretty much fixed, they only raise the score back to 3 points below the original score. Why? If anything with patches the basic experience is actually a bit improved over what it was when they originally reviewed it. Unfortunately public opinion went completely against their original review, and by pulling the crap they did they essentially got to re-review the game and make sure their opinion is more in line with popular opinion.
And it doesn't help that your reviews editor has absolutely no humility and is openly and publicly hostile to his readers and his peers. It's amazing how far a "my bad" admission will go.
And unfortunately that's exactly what they've done here. They scored a game with a bunch of fundamental flaws way too high (not things they had to dig very deeply to find, mind you. Too many have made that excuse).
Then they lower the score based on the service part of the game being broken.
Then when the servers are pretty much fixed, they only raise the score back to 3 points below the original score. Why? If anything with patches the basic experience is actually a bit improved over what it was when they originally reviewed it. Unfortunately public opinion went completely against their original review, and by pulling the crap they did they essentially got to re-review the game and make sure their opinion is more in line with popular opinion.
And it doesn't help that your reviews editor has absolutely no humility and is openly and publicly hostile to his readers and his peers. It's amazing how far a "my bad" admission will go.
I don't think a game review should change each and every time something good or something bad happens. Imagine re-scoring a game every time a title update comes out, or every time servers are down; that's pretty much what's happened here and it would be insane and confusing if everyone did that for every game. I think their original review and score was pretty laughable but they're entitled to their opinions and they should have stuck by it.
And yes I'm aware that site traffic is important but this is not the right way to go about it.
anyone watch these live?
But an adorable mess!I do, and the next episode is gonna be (is) a mess
anyone watch these live?