That's the part I really can't get my head around, how can they mess it up so badly.
I mean shit the thing is most likely end up being 2nd best console ever sold but those user purchases don't carry over properly.
Don't want to be hyperbolic about it, but I'm having issues to how they couldn't have had a better solution when it should be more important than BC for Xbox.
What the fokk for? PS4/XBO games already looked stellar, and now the devs have 10x the processing power... we will be shitting into our trousers and wouldn't want to change them because our brains were already fried .What the fuck just happened? I missed it but looking at the specs, I expected FUCKING MOREEEE.
We'll see whether these two are Saviours or Trojans.
mista you sound salty. You want games mate? Gotta be patience. There.Yeah because the developers are the ones that will bring the profit
If the gamers weren't as important then Cerny wouldn't have bothered to simply the info
Try again
Far far from salty. Not everyone is like you and the rest of the pathetic clowns on heremista you sound salty. You want games mate? Gotta be patience. There.
Far far from salty. Not everyone is like you and the rest of the pathetic clowns on here
I OWN ALL PLATFORMS. Go to sleep
that’s good salt there
What’s with the ad hominem remark? I own them all too. You sound tough in your posts I bet you are some twink in real life you cookie cutter porn addict.Far far from salty. Not everyone is like you and the rest of the pathetic clowns on here
I OWN ALL PLATFORMS. Go to sleep
Oh because I didn't let you shit comment slide so I am sounding tough? Lol, hopeless when theres no more excuses to say. Off you goWhat’s with the ad hominem remark? I own them all too. You sound tough in your posts I bet you are some twink in real life you cookie cutter porn addict.
Wtf are you talking about, this is NOT what this means lol. Xbox Series X and PS5 have the same CUs, just Series X has 16 more of them.36 RDNA2 CUs = 58 PS4 CUs means bigger die than SeX, these CUs on PS5 are extremely customized
OK tbh, this is what I really wanted to see, you guys have heard me say several times that the breakdown is what's more interesting to me than just the TF number.
I find the TF and CU power could be higher, but it seems they went really high end on the cooling solution for the worse case scenario, the most stressful gpu+cpu call..... 2.23ghz is really high and I'm really curious how high it can run uncapped, that part was really fascinating to me.....
I think they went all out on sound, this should be really impressive in games, should be a tangible upgrade over PS3 audio which I dearly missed....
All in all, it sounds like a very easy console to develop for, that's a great thing.... I think the custom engineering and its strengths will be quite noticeable, but I do wish their clocks were higher and they had more ram..... I suspect this will be a $399 console again..as opposed to a $500 console, but we shall see...
The way Cerny speaks, it's still a work in progress on many fronts till launch day, so the upcoming information and reveals should be interesting.
Sounds like Xbox Series X’s implementation fo ray tracing is more advanced. MS said their solution offloads raytracing completely from the GPU, costing no GPU resources while Cerny said the PS5s used A surprisingly small amount of GPU resources.It had a throwaway line about devs can choose to implement it or not and that was about it for RT.
LOL, what does that even mean? in the end, Series X can throw many more polygons one the screen than PS5. How each console gets there doesn’t matter. If anything, you want the lower frequency, high CU console, not the one with lower CUs running at very high clocks and high temperature.The one good thing about that 10.2 Tflop number is its getting there by using higher clock speeds over just more compute units at slower speeds which will offer better performance
No, not necessarily. I believe the PS5 will be faster in more than that sense.... it will deliver the Tflops faster and will have less bottlenecks than the XBox. The audio looks like it will be way ahead also....I've been watching your posts...certainly a slant to them. Good luck with that, it appears the load time is all that you've got as you keep hammering this home.
the way he speaks and delivers is abysmal , I was looking forward to this reveal and it was a borefest. not because of specs but because of how it was delivered. cardboard cut out people was just stupid.OK tbh, this is what I really wanted to see, you guys have heard me say several times that the breakdown is what's more interesting to me than just the TF number.
I find the TF and CU power could be higher, but it seems they went really high end on the cooling solution for the worse case scenario, the most stressful gpu+cpu call..... 2.23ghz is really high and I'm really curious how high it can run uncapped, that part was really fascinating to me.....
I think they went all out on sound, this should be really impressive in games, should be a tangible upgrade over PS3 audio which I dearly missed....
All in all, it sounds like a very easy console to develop for, that's a great thing.... I think the custom engineering and its strengths will be quite noticeable, but I do wish their clocks were higher and they had more ram..... I suspect this will be a $399 console again..as opposed to a $500 console, but we shall see...
The way Cerny speaks, it's still a work in progress on many fronts till launch day, so the upcoming information and reveals should be interesting.
Lol, just the opposite. Series X looks more optimized than PS5. It looks like an amazingly well thought out console. Hell, just compare the bandwidth of the two, Series X has like 20% higher bandwidth.Series X is bottlenecked and will have significant load times compared to PS5. Don't worry!
We will have to see when they come out, TBH I am extremely pissed with PlayStation at the moment and just considering buying a PC..... I don't understand why they are so incompetent and allowed that idiot, POS Jim Ryan to take over and turn everything to crap....Lol, just the opposite. Series X looks more optimized than PS5. It looks like an amazingly well thought out console. Hell, just compare the bandwidth of the two, Series X has like 20% higher bandwidth.
That’s not a bad idea, Actually. Might do the same. Buying both at launch when I play mostly 3rd party titles makes no senseSince both Sony and Microsoft offered mid-generational upgrades during the xbox one/ps4 generation, I'll be getting the Xbox Series X at launch and then the PS5 Pro when that launches as the more superior console. Probably going to keep doing one launch base console and one mid-generational console and alternate between the brands for as long as console lifecycles will exist.
To be fair to Cerny, that is the way he talks. He's more of a storyteller who will drag out something for 10 minutes. Can't blame him for that, since everyone has their own style of presenting.the way he speaks and delivers is abysmal , I was looking forward to this reveal and it was a borefest. not because of specs but because of how it was delivered. cardboard cut out people was just stupid.
the thing with the gpu+cpu clockrates is that's at best possible scenario and most likely will not run at that most of the time. there are some good things about the reveal which were good like how the ssd will work, the sound bit was interesting but I am betting most people will listen to the games through the tv speakers or sound bars so no idea how it will make a massive difference to that
I am a tech head and it was dull, yes better videos to demonstrating things. why didn't they show the Spiderman load times that we have all seen on here to show how good the ssd is, why use bare basic wireframes to demonstrate how corridors work for helping stream the data. use what they have shown in private and proper showcase the console to show how good these specs are.To be fair to Cerny, that is the way he talks. He's more of a storyteller who will drag out something for 10 minutes. Can't blame him for that, since everyone has their own style of presenting.
The problem is it seems he's the only tech guy at Sony, so if someone is going to detail specs it's got to be him, or nobody.
What they could have done is do more an MS thing with SeX with splash videos, DF guys adding videos, doing some basic demos like loading time and RTX.
Instead they got Cerny to do a GDC chat with really detailed stuff like John Carmack detailing idtech for an hour, and Sony promoted this presentation for everyone to watch, not just tech heads who probably appreciate the meticulous detail more than an average gamer.
Go smell some fresh air
LOL, what does that even mean? in the end, Series X can throw many more polygons one the screen than PS5. How each console gets there doesn’t matter. If anything, you want the lower frequency, high CU console, not the one with lower CUs running at very high clocks and high temperature.
And what has this to do with anything?Microsoft already said their competition is Amazon and Google.
Raw Tflops, XSX is stronger, more TU's...….Sound, Storage. Ease of development......Sony is stronger....Give me a bit to go over the video again, I was at work when it was revealed, I missed the first few minutes, need to take it all in and try to soak in all the details......I still need to go over what they said on memory bandwidth and RT...How hard can it punch compared to the XsX?
Cerny said that in all operations PS5 will stay at that clockrate and number unless it doesn't require that amount of power for the operation......In essence PS5 games will always use the full power, BC may not need to....The cooling system deals with such things on the fly.....based on power needs...the way he speaks and delivers is abysmal , I was looking forward to this reveal and it was a borefest. not because of specs but because of how it was delivered. cardboard cut out people was just stupid.
the thing with the gpu+cpu clockrates is that's at best possible scenario and most likely will not run at that most of the time. there are some good things about the reveal which were good like how the ssd will work, the sound bit was interesting but I am betting most people will listen to the games through the tv speakers or sound bars so no idea how it will make a massive difference to that
PS systems are a lot more mainstream than Xbox. They sell a lot more. And the best way to keep up unit sales is a reasonable price. So that's why Sony didn't gun for the best specs.If the structure of this presentation was Jim Ryan’s idea, I think he should be fired. This is amateur work here. I’m not at all bothered by the specs. I believe because of the way the pS5 is build, it will punch much higher then it’s weight class (hoping ) but it just looked really weird, right down to the use of a CG crowd. Like what was that all about?!
If the structure of this presentation was Jim Ryan’s idea, I think he should be fired. This is amateur work here. I’m not at all bothered by the specs. I believe because of the way the pS5 is build, it will punch much higher then it’s weight class (hoping ) but it just looked really weird, right down to the use of a CG crowd. Like what was that all about?!
If the structure of this presentation was Jim Ryan’s idea, I think he should be fired. This is amateur work here. I’m not at all bothered by the specs. I believe because of the way the pS5 is build, it will punch much higher then it’s weight class (hoping ) but it just looked really weird, right down to the use of a CG crowd. Like what was that all about?!
Is there an actual link of this?Remember HipHop Gamer saying PS5 would have a "REMASTER ENGINE" which would automatically upgrade resolution on all games from PS1-PS4 without effort?
Is there an actual link of this?
stronger....Give me a bit to go over the video again, I was at work when it was revealed, I missed the first few minutes, need to take it all in and try to soak in all the details......I still need to go over what they said on memory bandwidth and RT...
Damn, I was just thinking the same thing.
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