N° 2048
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100% agree, only a handful of times have I been killed by bullshit in The Surge, honestly 99% of the time it's my fault and I just adjust my gear accordingly and it becomes cake.
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The Surge |OT| Live Die Repeat
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100% agree, only a handful of times have I been killed by bullshit in The Surge, honestly 99% of the time it's my fault and I just adjust my gear accordingly and it becomes cake.
Shadowhaxor
Member
Once you beat it, you're dumped right into NG+. So do everything before hit the final boss.
Blitzrules240
Banned
I hate to self promote but here's my video of my successful attempt but for those who want a text entry I'll put one below.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0CCSTdg-13w
So I used the Liquidator set (I felt more mobile in it compared to Rhino) and I had 9 V3 HP implants and I used my attack drone to shoot him while I was evading. Now the key is to avoid his swipes and hit him with a full force horizontal swing and aim for his head. Use the drone while you replenish your stamina. When the PAX come in, you just gotta avoid those damn swords and go for the legs, pummel the legs and get them down, this will happen 2 times hopefully (or you can try to get the PAX to shoot the white canisters but I was unsuccessful) to stop spawning PAX. Finish up the fight when he returns after the 2nd PAX, get to the button prompt and he is defeated.
So I restarted the game and managed to get (First area boss spoiler, and questions about area 1 post boss)
I found a list of tips, lots of stuff I didn't know on reddit
Mostly mechanics, like how you can favorite weapons, do backstabs, block/dodge correctly etc. One thing I didn't know about is that if you time your combos right they well cost less stamina, indicated by your stamina flashing white when you hit. Might be helpful for some :] This game has some real depth to the combat!
edit: The link above might have some light spoilers about certain boss mechanics/boss names, just warning if anyone wants to do a play through completely blind!
The Pax Imperator 2.0. It took me a few tries to hit his legs and make sure the boss didn't hit himself with rockets.
Now for my question, did anything unlock down in the tunnels after I killed Pax? I noticed I could unlock a nifty nice lift right by the first medbay, that takes me up to an enemy that drops Mk 2 weapon upgrade materials, but I haven't ventured back into the tunnels/darkness yet. Would you recommend me going to area 2, or keep scavenging in area 1. Thanks in advance, love the game! :3
Now for my question, did anything unlock down in the tunnels after I killed Pax? I noticed I could unlock a nifty nice lift right by the first medbay, that takes me up to an enemy that drops Mk 2 weapon upgrade materials, but I haven't ventured back into the tunnels/darkness yet. Would you recommend me going to area 2, or keep scavenging in area 1. Thanks in advance, love the game! :3
I found a list of tips, lots of stuff I didn't know on reddit
Mostly mechanics, like how you can favorite weapons, do backstabs, block/dodge correctly etc. One thing I didn't know about is that if you time your combos right they well cost less stamina, indicated by your stamina flashing white when you hit. Might be helpful for some :] This game has some real depth to the combat!
edit: The link above might have some light spoilers about certain boss mechanics/boss names, just warning if anyone wants to do a play through completely blind!
Shadowhaxor
Member
You're making it harder on yourself. When PAX comes out, stand behind him and work them legs. When he's ready to shoot, stand in front of the while column/machines and let it blast them. Then kill PAX. No more will come out after that.
Vic_Viper
Member
Just watched the beginning of the GBEast stream for The Surge and it looks awesome, but I was wondering what the general opinion has been of the game on Gaf now that its been out for awhile. How is everyone liking it thats playing? Its a shame this game was released with almost no fanfare whatsoever.
BakedTanooki
Member
Started the game yesterday and played a few hours. It seems pretty awesome so far! 
I like the setting and love to cut off body parts with finishing moves. Fighting feels way better than in Lords of the Fallen.
It also runs with super smooth 60fps on the Pro. I checked out the high resolution mode with 30fps, which is also nice. The 30fps doesn't even feel too "bad" because it's super stable. Still choosed 60fps
They have done a good job with this one.
Damn fine Euro Jank.
I like the setting and love to cut off body parts with finishing moves. Fighting feels way better than in Lords of the Fallen.
It also runs with super smooth 60fps on the Pro. I checked out the high resolution mode with 30fps, which is also nice. The 30fps doesn't even feel too "bad" because it's super stable. Still choosed 60fps
They have done a good job with this one.
Damn fine Euro Jank.
bati
Member
Aggression Amplifier v2 (20% health restored on finisher) really starts shining once you reach 400+ hit points. I cleared Executive Forum three times in a row, collected all nano cores and secrets doors and used maybe two health consumables total (which replenished in seconds because I was racking in tech scrap). If this thing stacks and you can get another one on NG+ then it's gonna be crazy.
This game really awards you for playing with your balls out, I fucking love it. Nothing like going full aggro mode on a bunch of endgame enemies and chaining kills like you're death incarnate.
My current setup:
4x Vital Boost v5 (500hp at core level 99)
2x Vital Injection v5 (6 consumables total, 320hp each)
2x Ancillary Core XL (I plan to drop these once I can wear the armor without them)
1x Endurance Enhancer v5
1x Adrenaline Shunt v4 (slow-mo consumable)
1x Aggression Amp v2 (20% hit points restored on finisher)
1x Voltaic Dynamo v2 (30% more energy gain)
1x Voltain Dynamo v1 (20% more energy gain)
1x Pneumatic Calibrator v4 (25% less stamina consumption for evasive maneuvers)
1x Medical Audit (shows enemy health)
Not sure what I'll put in the last slot, maybe energy decay implant.
This game really awards you for playing with your balls out, I fucking love it. Nothing like going full aggro mode on a bunch of endgame enemies and chaining kills like you're death incarnate.
My current setup:
MG Judge 2.0, full Black Cerberus Set
4x Vital Boost v5 (500hp at core level 99)
2x Vital Injection v5 (6 consumables total, 320hp each)
2x Ancillary Core XL (I plan to drop these once I can wear the armor without them)
1x Endurance Enhancer v5
1x Adrenaline Shunt v4 (slow-mo consumable)
1x Aggression Amp v2 (20% hit points restored on finisher)
1x Voltaic Dynamo v2 (30% more energy gain)
1x Voltain Dynamo v1 (20% more energy gain)
1x Pneumatic Calibrator v4 (25% less stamina consumption for evasive maneuvers)
1x Medical Audit (shows enemy health)
Not sure what I'll put in the last slot, maybe energy decay implant.
Blitzrules240
Banned
I could get the timing down on when to move out of the way for him to shoot the columns. I kept dying, so I went full aggro and just had at it.
How do you have so many implants?
What in the unholy fuck?! Damn man that's super impressive, not even gonna lie that's a murderous build. I'm not even level 70 yet and I'm at the final boss and handidly whipped his ass before I tanked to run around a bit more before ng+
How are you that high? Did you just grind? Scrap boosting implants stacked?
He's basically saying that some builds aren't viable. You're saying that isn't cheap?
When you're locked in with 14 prof twin rigs and you're late game and you find this shit out... it's insanely tedious to switch to a different setup.
This game is cheap in some poorly designed areas. Anyone who says otherwise is delusional.
N° 2048
Member
Proficiency doesn't make a huge difference, I'm in Area 4 and still use weapons with like 5 Proficiency and I can take everything out no problem.
It comes down to the level of the weapon, you'll need at least MK.III for Area 4 and some MK.III armor.
Bitching about the game favoring certain sets and weapons in certain situations seems frankly idiotic when the game lets you carry and Hotswap an infinite number of weapons, and by design makes picking up new armor sets incredibly easy. As another poster said, proficiency isn't a big deal. It also levels logarithmically higher, so if you're at low level with a heavy grade weapon it'll level incredibly fast through the lower proficiencies if you start using it late game.
The game is intentionally designed to want you to run multiple weapons and run a variety of armor types. This isn't souls where you level a character up based on set stats you can't change without rerolling. All stats are tied to either implants or armor which you can change as you go painlessly.
1. Best thing about narrow tunnels is that they're in narrow tunnels as well. Parrry attacks and punish the fuck out of it.
2. Never had a problem with it?
3. Just parry him and delimb.
4. Right around the corner plus that area has a mini stop for injectible recharges
The game is intentionally designed to want you to run multiple weapons and run a variety of armor types. This isn't souls where you level a character up based on set stats you can't change without rerolling. All stats are tied to either implants or armor which you can change as you go painlessly.
1. Best thing about narrow tunnels is that they're in narrow tunnels as well. Parrry attacks and punish the fuck out of it.
2. Never had a problem with it?
3. Just parry him and delimb.
4. Right around the corner plus that area has a mini stop for injectible recharges
bati
Member
Each rig upgrade unlocks 4 additional slots, there are 2 rig upgrades available.
I cleared Executive Forum a few times because I reaaaaally wanted to equip the armor, lol. Before I started I was ~75 core level (after clearing entire EF). When I was grinding I had all Reclamation Buddies I could find, for a total of 90% bonus I think (40+20+20+10). These seem to be a flat bonus to your scrap multiplier because I was starting from medbay at 1.9x. Deconstructing all the Ancillary Core XL implants which I gathered when I was going for stuff that I've missed also really added up.
H3rTz DoNuT
Member
I killed those two guys (actually my son did) I rescued in the second zone (I didn't know you can kill them lol) are they needed for something?
I swapped to a staff in the fourth area, never really had a problem with the damage and by the time I finished it was at 12 proficiency anyway.
BakedTanooki
Member
The finishing moves are really satisfying
Made a little video of some early finisher
https://youtu.be/hzejEg5X23Q
Made a little video of some early finisher
https://youtu.be/hzejEg5X23Q
Seyfert
Member
Maximum bonus that can go up is x3.9 (x3.0 with no implant)
Still not sure what count for multiplier to go up, seems random. try cutting part but still not that reliable.
more question about end game
1. Where can i farm tier 4 upgrade easily ?
2. How many core are there in first NG is it enough for upgrade just 1 set or 2 set ? because i like bot Black Cerberus and Gorgon. can't really decided lol
Still not sure what count for multiplier to go up, seems random. try cutting part but still not that reliable.
more question about end game
1. Where can i farm tier 4 upgrade easily ?
2. How many core are there in first NG is it enough for upgrade just 1 set or 2 set ? because i like bot Black Cerberus and Gorgon. can't really decided lol
Imp the Dimp
Member
Are there iframes? Do the controls have that japanese precision like Souls and Nioh?
N° 2048
Member
If there's iframes they are tiny as fuck and Deck13 Interactive is a German video game company based in Frankfurt, Germany....so...no?
Kidding, controls are tight AF.
So I was running around for shits and giggles, and people who want to do everything make sure to stop back by area 3 and hit up Dr. Chavez again after you
in area 6. She gives you an optional new objective to complete that I'm guessing has major ending implications. This is totally missable, so heads up.
Very obvious.
upload the virus
Very obvious.
Wait, what? Das Spiel gefällt mir jetzt umso mehr.If there's iframes they are tiny as fuck and Deck13 Interactive is a German video game company based in Frankfurt, Germany....so...no?
Kidding, controls are tight AF.
bati
Member
Nice, I'm clearing the final area atm (holy shit what a maze) so this was just in time. Question - what are those overcharge stations in the final area for? I'm relatively sure I found most (if not all) of them and I saw something happen in the middle of the area but now I'm getting some vague hints by the announcer on the PA (
something about being on final step
Level design is off the chain in this game, absolutely incredible.
Can you please be more detailed? I did just what you said (going all the way back informing her of the new developments) and she told me something new yes but in the end she only gave me some more
encrypted data chip
The overcharge stuff is flowing voltage into the
biomass
corrupted
Well I don't know the endgame on it either, that's something we'll have to figure out
She said to plug it in somewhere I think in area 6 where some girl was,
but girl was dead (only reason I know is because I had the prompt to tell her before she even gave me the datachip ),
),
bati
Member
Yup, found some weapon in one of the areas that opened by floor 1 medbay. Is the boss entrance also there? Because I also found a tunnel in one of the areas with Cerberus security and one of those tough chryssalids, where you upload the virus if I recall correctly. Do both lead to the same place?
Yeah, they loop around. You know you're at the end when the game actually has a loading screen just for the final boss area, lol
So I found the missable exo suit upgrade, but couldn't find the mandatory one and ended up having to Google it -.-
Now I'm trying to make small talk with this guy in an elevator but he doesn't seem interested. I guess he's supposed to be attacking me right now?
Edit: attacked him and he still doesn't fight back. Lol?
Now I'm trying to make small talk with this guy in an elevator but he doesn't seem interested. I guess he's supposed to be attacking me right now?
Edit: attacked him and he still doesn't fight back. Lol?
Yep! Make sure you beat Boss 4 before heading back there, because you need to clear a security door to get in there.
Get some rad swag for doing it too
N° 2048
Member
Yep! Make sure you beat Boss 4 before heading back there, because you need to clear a security door to get in there.
Get some rad swag for doing it too
Wait, you sure I need to beat 4th boss?
https://youtu.be/cXLqL8_medk?t=3m28s
He doesn't go through any security door for Jo's third encounter.
bati
Member
She said to plug it in somewhere I think in area 6 where some girl was,but I *think* it's in the upper deck like area where the station controls are in the same room you uploaded the virus in. I'm cleaning up area 4 right now, so I'll head directly there and see what happens after work.but girl was dead (only reason I know is because I had the prompt to tell her before she even gave me the datachip
I checked there just now and there was nothing that I could interact with. I combed the entire final level again as much as I could remember where I've already been and haven't found anything. I think it's simply an oversight because I was able to collect another
necklace from Maddy
bati
Member
And finished. What an incredible game, mechanically very solid, amazing atmosphere overall, pacing and length are just right. I think this will become a cult classic over time.
First one is at the top of the circulation tower (after you return from the labs you can unlock them with the drone upgrade), the second one you can get after beating the fourth boss.
Coriolanus
Banned
ng+ is... odd as hell?
obvious damage bumps, new enemies, new upgrade tiers. game gets rid of your nanothangs and you can upgrade straight to mk6, so might as well spend them if you have them. Also gets rid of your mystery coins.
Thing is... while enemies have been updated, and you'll find them using different weapons/armor... map pickups havent, nor have enemy drops. So you pick up the same crappy implants and insignificant minor scraps.
Kinda disappointing.
obvious damage bumps, new enemies, new upgrade tiers. game gets rid of your nanothangs and you can upgrade straight to mk6, so might as well spend them if you have them. Also gets rid of your mystery coins.
Thing is... while enemies have been updated, and you'll find them using different weapons/armor... map pickups havent, nor have enemy drops. So you pick up the same crappy implants and insignificant minor scraps.
Kinda disappointing.
Intheflorsh
Banned
I finished the game with dual rigs, they're viable. I switched to them from one handed weapons halfway through the game, a weapon's upgrade level matters a lot more than proficiency. Sticking with light armor till the end of the game might be a bad idea, but you can just build a new armor set at any time.
I think people might be conditioned to stick to light/heavy "builds" from playing Souls games, and that kind of thinking can be unproductive in this game.
N° 2048
Member
Guys, I'm just shredding Area 4 with a nice joint and this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LSLOKZSVn8M
I just roleplay that Warren found an old MP3 player with funk songs on it.
MP3 Player MK.X or something.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LSLOKZSVn8M
I just roleplay that Warren found an old MP3 player with funk songs on it.
MP3 Player MK.X or something.
Intheflorsh
Banned
So what determines if you get 2.0 versions of boss weapons? I only managed to get a 2.0 weapon from the second boss and I have no idea what I did right.
N° 2048
Member
Boss spoilers: http://holdtoreset.com/the-surge-boss-weapons/
It goes in order though so just stop scrolling when you get to the boss you're at.
bati
Member
First boss - don't let him get hit by his own rockets
Second boss - destroy all legs before you kill it
Third boss - don't kill any welders in phase two
Fourth boss - have the robot destroy both tanks in the arena and then cut off the boss' right arm
Final boss - has no 2.0 version but you get a different weapon depending on which arm you cut
Second boss - destroy all legs before you kill it
Third boss - don't kill any welders in phase two
Fourth boss - have the robot destroy both tanks in the arena and then cut off the boss' right arm
Final boss - has no 2.0 version but you get a different weapon depending on which arm you cut
Intheflorsh
Banned
Thanks.
I'm guessing most people will cut off all the legs with the second boss because they're a pain in the ass if you don't.
bati
Member
You'd think so, but no. The one in the back is easy to miss if you're focused on killing the boss fast. Especially since the legs lose their targeting point when they start spinning so you can only lock on the to the weak point on the underside.