Think you missed the point of the interview.
I must have because all I can come up with is that is what an attempt to expose a man as being the very man we thought him to be, but in the least professional and productive way possible.
Think you missed the point of the interview.
This thread has taught me that veteran developers are delicate little flowers that should be handled with kid gloves and grovelling respect at all times.
Pity RPS is only PC, they should do such an interview with Evolution on Driveclub psn +.
I think it showcases something even worse, and that's an enjoyment in seeing someone insulted and treated like shit during an interview. I'm not even that big of a fan of Molyneux, but the hostility that the interviewer displayed was over-the-top and unprofessional. I'm all for improving journalistic standards in the gaming industry, but this interview is not an example of that.
Do you really not see a difference between grovelling and calling someone a "pathological liar"?
Do you really not see a difference between grovelling and calling someone a "pathological liar"?
A snake oil salesman that believes in the efficacy of the snake oil he's selling doesn't excuse him from selling snake oil.
I don't think he deserves death threats, but he absolutely deserves the criticism that's built up over the years from constantly under delivering on what he says, regardless of whether or not he believed what he said at the time.
I view this interview as a callout to all developers and publishers that overhype and underdeliver on their promises. PM is arguably the worst in this category and justifiably deserves the frustration exhibited by RPS.
The sooner we stop accepting bullshit the PR hype machine tries to generate the better. Games journalists need to stop acting like they are interviewing for future jobs and ask the real questions that the public want to ask themselves but can't. If that causes a implosion between pubs/devs and journalists then so be it.
A snake oil salesman that believes in the efficacy of the snake oil he's selling doesn't excuse him from selling snake oil.
I don't think he deserves death threats, but he absolutely deserves the criticism that's built up over the years from constantly under delivering on what he says, regardless of whether or not he believed what he said at the time.
I view this interview as a callout to all developers and publishers that overhype and underdeliver on their promises. PM is arguably the worst in this category and justifiably deserves the frustration exhibited by RPS.
The sooner we stop accepting bullshit the PR hype machine tries to generate the better. Games journalists need to stop acting like they are interviewing for future jobs and ask the real questions that the public want to ask themselves but can't. If that causes a implosion between pubs/devs and journalists then so be it.
Is this a cultural thing I wonder between the US and the UK and Ireland? Vincent Brown is an Irish journalist known for his confrontational style also so this doesn't seem as rude to me as it clearly is for others here. Not everyone likes VB but his interviews often wind up revealing truths that playing the polite conversational tennis that often passes for modern interviewing do not.
Do you really not see a difference between grovelling and calling someone a "pathological liar"?
I do feel bad for him. It seemed like it was a melt down: He kept talking about how hard his life has become. Returning to home at 2:00 am and missing his child's play are not pleasant. However, considering his history of empty promises, I am thankful an interviewer was harsh on him, and perhaps that gave him a new perspective of what the consumers think of him.
Hey be fair he did ask if he was a pathological liar. He didn't just say you are a pathological liar so how does that feel.
What functional value does this interview have? Is there anything we learned?
What functional value does this interview have? Is there anything we learned?
This thread has taught me that veteran developers are delicate little flowers that should be handled with kid gloves and grovelling respect at all times.
Me: Hello, Mr. Molyneux.
Peter Molyneux: Hello, [me]
Me: I just thought I'd start off the interview with a little bit of a general chat ...
Peter Molyneux: Alright.
Me: Have you seen the Ricky Gervais film, The Invention of Lying?
Peter Molyneux: Ha, no, I don't think I have.
Me: Do you know where I'm going with this?
Peter Molyneux: I think I might.
Me: Well, I just have to ask you, do you think you lie, a little bit?
Peter Molyneux: I don't try to.
Me: So you're not, like, a pathological liar?
Peter Molyneux: (laughs) ... no, I don't think so.
Me: Alright, thank you for your time.
Peter Molyneux: No, thank you, it has been pleasant.
Nope. You're reading what you like from my words. I never said that asking weak questions leads to the truth. I'm saying that goading them into absolute defensiveness won't yield truth either. Which is all that RPS managed to accomplish today.
Lets be super clear.
Asking for good gaming journalism does not mean asking for an antagonistic press.
This is the other extreme of what you are talking about.
You want an impartial press that is able to call it like they see it. This is tantamount to watching MSNBC or Fox News because you agree with the bias they are slinging at the TV so it trigger a rush of serotonin to your brain and makes you happy.
It's not journalism. It's a sensationalistic hit piece because someone had an axe to grind and came out swinging.
This is how I would have conducted the interview.
Alienous, getting to the heart of the matter, seeking the truth. I should be a games journalist.
What functional value does this interview have? Is there anything we learned?
What functional value does this interview have? Is there anything we learned?
Probably. American journalism at the moment is full of things like, "well, we can't do a fair piece about dinosaurs without talking to this man who believes they existed three thousand years ago. Sir, could you please put down that handful of feces and have a talk with us?"
You can work to that, even! As a follow-up after other things are said, perhaps, and the pattern of lying has been established by the interviewer.Would that be an appropriate question if that person had been caught fucking sheep like Molyneux has been caught lying?
We learned that when asked if he's a pathological liar, Peter Molyneux will say "No, I am not". Which is essentially what the rest of the interview boiled down to as well. Riveting.
We learned that when asked if he's a pathological liar, Peter Molyneux will say "No, I am not". Which is essentially what the rest of the interview boiled down to as well. Riveting.
You might be surprised. As long as you are not mired in some controversy, then you would have nothing to worry about. Hard-hitting does not mean crucifying everyone. But in this particular case, Peter had it coming.
A snake oil salesman that believes in the efficacy of the snake oil he's selling doesn't excuse him from selling snake oil.
I don't think he deserves death threats, but he absolutely deserves the criticism that's built up over the years from constantly under delivering on what he says, regardless of whether or not he believed what he said at the time.
I view this interview as a callout to all developers and publishers that overhype and underdeliver on their promises. PM is arguably the worst in this category and justifiably deserves the frustration exhibited by RPS.
The sooner we stop accepting bullshit the PR hype machine tries to generate the better. Games journalists need to stop acting like they are interviewing for future jobs and ask the real questions that the public want to ask themselves but can't. If that causes a implosion between pubs/devs and journalists then so be it.
Probably. American journalism at the moment is full of things like, "well, we can't do a fair piece about dinosaurs without talking to this man who believes they existed three thousand years ago. Sir, could you please put down that handful of feces and have a talk with us?"
As a person that has conducted interviews, they absolutely do. Especially in our industry. People assume they don't get the hard questions because people don't ask. That's not true. That's why I know what happens.
Here's Deep Silver's PR person. That's the norm.
RPS has prestige, but this interview in particular seems to be a personal one for Molyneux. He felt he had something to say, so he kept pressing on. That's not normal, regardless of if you're at RPS, Kotaku, or whatever.
But alas, I'll dip out here. Khorne hungers too much.
Honestly, I could see someone like Larry King asking bluntly, "are you a pathological liar?" if some politician or musician or whatever that would actually be on his show behaved like Molyneux has for decades. For some reason in games, we find that sort of thing abhorrent.
Well, he's either a pathological liar, or a manipulative, malicious liar.
Take your pick. If anything, RPS showed good faith by picking the less nasty possibility.
That was just the first question. The rest of the interview demonstrated that he is, indeed, a pathological liar.
This is how I would have conducted the interview.
Alienous, getting to the heart of the matter, seeking the truth. I should be a games journalist.
Molyneux thinks he has the license to stretch the truth if it gets people excited about his project. If his predictions fall through well that is part of game development to him. Rather than fix this he will just ignore the press altogether.
Pretty much this, I think the overall American media has really twisted people's perceptions on what the press should be and ask. First off, that person should never be consulted at all because they're a freaking Loon. Secondly, if someone were consulted and started spouting something so nonsensical, they should straight up be called out on being a Loon, not pandered to. Calling a spade a spade is not wrong in any way, no matter how much it might hurt that person's feelings.
If you believe that dinosaurs existed 3000 years ago you're a Loon. If you have blatantly lied to the world every single year for the past 30 years you're a Liar. Pretty simple.
Yeh, a lot of people in here jumping to a quick defense without reading what Peter actually responds with to the harsh questions. He dancers around a lot and basically says he's not lying because he believes in himself and his team. What a load of horse shit. Also has multiple answers for the same question throughout the interview, he can't make up his mind as what his best excuse is then devolves into some pathetic "my life is really hard" excuse.
this is a false dichotomy. we can have a games press that holds peoples' feet to the fire without being aggressive assholes about it.
There's no need to bring logic to the people in this thread who will look to any desperate defense they can to justify what the interviewer does or demonize PM.
Call Molyneux incompetent all you like, but when you call him malicious, I object. Everything I've seen and heard of him indicates he's got the enthusiasm & naivety of a little kid. He's not trying to scam anyone. Someone with ill intent would have heard that first insult and immediately called the whole interview off.