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The Witcher showrunner addresses backlash to Netflix show
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awwr999999
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Netflix has lower standards that cable or network TV.
Neon Xenon
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This could be seen as a reasonable response from a showrunner, in the sense that this is the long way of admitting failure, that Netflix Witcher is probably never going to come even close to the respect that The Witcher games and books have earned.
This is funnier when looking at another IP like The Expanse, which didn't seem to have this particular issue of the writer telling people during its own television run.
Durin
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Only comparison to GoT is how so many modern fantasy shows still want to ape that series because it hit the mainstream.
I don't think Witcher season 1 was great, but it was fine to me. Rest just got progressively worse.
this the show was so bad Henry Cavill left
themselves it's their fanfiction
wtf is that a real line.
in my opinion Netflix should have cut bait when Henry left
Major Insano
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I have to admit, I quite enjoyed Blood Origin.
The casting was terrible and the acting was a cringe fest at times, but it was good to watch a high fantasy show on TV for a change.
In the end, it's Sapowski's baby. Him or his team need to retain some creative/executive control.
The casting was terrible and the acting was a cringe fest at times, but it was good to watch a high fantasy show on TV for a change.
In the end, it's Sapowski's baby. Him or his team need to retain some creative/executive control.
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I think it's what others have stated and it's not a problem unique to Witcher but these TV/film adaptation "creatives" almost always have to put their own personal influences into the projects. And they are almost always, God fucking awful.
I would understand if here, this person was a Witcher fan and a fantasy fan overall who wanted to tell their own stories in that universe. Okay, sure take your shot if you think you've got something good but that's often not the case at all. I notice a lot of these people have a tendency to hate their core audience and it's weird af every time I see it.
I would understand if here, this person was a Witcher fan and a fantasy fan overall who wanted to tell their own stories in that universe. Okay, sure take your shot if you think you've got something good but that's often not the case at all. I notice a lot of these people have a tendency to hate their core audience and it's weird af every time I see it.
bitbydeath
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justiceiro
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It's funny she says that after the author complained that the games clinged to a mistake in his books, putting him in trouble regarding new books and editions, even when they are a "separated thing".
It can be it's own thing, but if closely ties itself to the original can make it even better. It's just a polite answer to not just tell all fans to fuck off.
It can be it's own thing, but if closely ties itself to the original can make it even better. It's just a polite answer to not just tell all fans to fuck off.
saintjules
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thefool
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Cyberpunkd
Banned
Didn't make it past the second episode, absolutely pathetic writing and character development. "I am a rat" scene was absolutely cringe, just pushing Ciri's lesbian romance was rather disgusting.
But the worst was showing Francesca FUCKING Findabair, called the most beautiful woman in existence, fucking with some reanimated bloke because she is sulking. Reducing women to a vagina must be some trope in Hollywood.
But the worst was showing Francesca FUCKING Findabair, called the most beautiful woman in existence, fucking with some reanimated bloke because she is sulking. Reducing women to a vagina must be some trope in Hollywood.
That script cant be real is it lmao
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BlackTron
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Taking advantage of existing IP to shove their own ideas down everyones throat, basically narcissism.
Like the idea that Master Chief's helmet should come off on the marketing banner. Wow you sure subverted expectations you bold showmaker! Only an artist of your sheer gallantry could have done it!
Thebonehead
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Please, somebody take this away!
TintoConCasera
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Braag
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Not at all surprised at Sharlto Copley carrying this show, and as Leo Bonhart no less. At least they got 1 thing right. Everything else looks like an affront to my eyes.
Alex11
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I watched this to the end, but skipped some parts, especially the Ciri and rats ones. A shitshow is what this is.
Liam is dull as a bag of rocks, I'm sure he's a better actor and can do better than this.
Some absolute laughable, amateurish scenes, especially in episode 6, whoever watched it knows.
Man, just write and create your own show, don't just profit from an established universe that has fans, I don't understand this.
I mean, I know some stuff needs to be changed for a movie or show, that's more than fair, but when you're just changing things for the sake of changing it or subverting expectations, that's just cheap and gratuitous, just fuck off.
Liam is dull as a bag of rocks, I'm sure he's a better actor and can do better than this.
Some absolute laughable, amateurish scenes, especially in episode 6, whoever watched it knows.
Man, just write and create your own show, don't just profit from an established universe that has fans, I don't understand this.
I mean, I know some stuff needs to be changed for a movie or show, that's more than fair, but when you're just changing things for the sake of changing it or subverting expectations, that's just cheap and gratuitous, just fuck off.
I can't speak for the whole season but looking at the first 2 episodes seems enough better than the horrid previous season.
Uh. No, not all. The first 2 episodes not seems that bad. I start to suspect too many people like to despise the whole package just for the sake of it. But I give you that the Witcher series has the bad habit to decline the whole story quality in the final episodes of the later seasons.
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I stopped after season 1. As someone who loves the books and games season 1 was already pretty bad. I didn't think it could get much worse but apparently I was wrong. Thinking we could have gotten a Fantasy show with the quality of GoT if they actually hired a talented director and sticked to the source material make me sad. The good thing is I barely remember anything about the show so I can just pretend it never existed.
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What exaggeration. It's not a masterpiece but it's not absolutely all that trash. Combats scenes especially are really well done. And let's be brutally honest: it's not like the narrative of books was that masterpiece neither. The games were far superior to the books and the only reason of the success of the brand imo. Now the prequel was really an abomination and I can agree with it. But I seen a lot of worst stuff on Netflix (Resident Evil or Cowboy Bee Bop) than this series. Well I hope the final episodes don't screw again everything.
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Peroroncino
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Cyberpunkd
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I assume a lot was lost in translation because the original Polish edition was lit AF, I don't think any series I ever read (and I read a lot) matched the humour of the Witcher books.
Lokaum D+
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the writers of this episode must be on damage control right now, they wanted everyone to be shocked by the cruelty of Leo and they got everyone rooting for him.
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Cyberpunkd
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Fuck, that's a job well done.
Toots
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Worse than that, hack showrunners parasitize beloved IPs because they cannot create anything worth watching on their own, and when fans of said IP protest they say it is aimed at a different audience.
But why not simply do a new show directly aimed at that different audience ?
Some will say mainstream entertainement has been taken over by risk adverse business school dumbass who won't greenlight new projects, which is true, but then why don't they do by the book IP adaptation, since it is a risk free strategy. Give people what they want, you already know what they like (since the IP worked on them in the first place).
mayham2199
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It's amazing to me that Netflix got Henry Cavill to do one of their shows and instead of embracing that and running with it. They allow themselves to lose him in order to keep some showrunner who doesn't know WTF they are doing. I wish I could be there to see who gets fired for this massive mistake and mishandling of this show. They had a chance to really build something here and they just threw it all away.
Angry_Megalodon
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The answer is below.
The idea is not to make a good show but destroy something that already exists, while trying to make some money or lose as little as possible.
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Mortisfacio
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Witcher 1-3 are some of my favorite series of games and I love the books, so I want to like this, but... I can't. It's like the Warcraft movie. I wanted a good and serious movie. Instead, with both Warcraft and Witcher we got some shitty campy fantasy stuff out of the 80s, but with CGI. I knew this show was doomed when Netflix picked it up and not HBO.
xenosys
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Let's be honest, Cavill's star power was the only thing keeping the show reasonably relevant for 2 seasons.
Even he couldn't polish this turd before he bailed.
The show was doomed from the get-go because the showrunner isn't even a fan of the books or the video games, didn't have a clue about the lore so doesn't understand all the little idiosyncrasies that make The Witcher what it is, so resorted to inserting her own cringe Tumblr-level fan-fiction into the series, and butchering it in the process.
This should spell the end of her career in the industry, but these ideologues always find a way to fail upwards.
Even he couldn't polish this turd before he bailed.
The show was doomed from the get-go because the showrunner isn't even a fan of the books or the video games, didn't have a clue about the lore so doesn't understand all the little idiosyncrasies that make The Witcher what it is, so resorted to inserting her own cringe Tumblr-level fan-fiction into the series, and butchering it in the process.
This should spell the end of her career in the industry, but these ideologues always find a way to fail upwards.
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GymWolf
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Ok now show me the real picture without the embellish filter.Yeah, but they changed her face on that image.
Madflavor
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Imagine given the reigns to produce a show based on one of the most beloved fantasy series, and thinking people want to see "your" version. People from LA are a different breed.
You know when I typed "LA" I thought "wait a minute, I should do my research and Google if Lauren is actually from LA."
Spoiler, she fucking is.
You know when I typed "LA" I thought "wait a minute, I should do my research and Google if Lauren is actually from LA."
Spoiler, she fucking is.
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Mr Hyde
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Based Henry Cavill. Look up interviews he did with the cast and Lauren (creator of the show) and Henry is the only one who knows what he´s talking about. He played the games. He read the novels. The others just sit there completely clueless and knows jack shit about their own show they are participating in. They are even side eyeing him, probably of jealousy because he is so knowledgeable of the world of Witcher.
Trogdor1123
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I never read the books but is ciri a lesbian in them?
GymWolf
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They spent something like $20m per episode on this shit. This was about when I stopped watching I think
When the dwarves join in
The dwarf part remind me of this scene in american pie 5
Min 2:40
Cyberpunkd
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She has a brief lesbian stint if I remember correctly but it is at most half a page in a 500 page novel. Mind you the books were written in the 1990s in catholic Poland.
Romulus
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Jealous of that and the fact that you could combine the best features of your entire family tree and still not look as good as Henry. He'd be a prettier girl too, if he felt like it.