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[Zombie James]

I still don't understand it. Pretty sure I've made this point before, but there are plenty of other games and series I don't really like - like Pokemon - but I can look at what they're offering and understand why others are excited for it. But Titanfall? I've seen E3 footage, watched interviews, watched alpha footage... I just don't see what's so special about it to warrant all the hype and praise it's getting from the media. The hype feels very, very forced.

I'm sure all of the anti-Titanfall de-hyping has nothing to do with the fact that the game isn't on the PS4.

For what it's worth, the game looked dull and uninteresting to me before it was bought.

 

[Baron Aloha]

I'm sure all of the anti-Titanfall de-hyping has nothing to do with the fact that the game isn't on the PS4.

Nope. Go back to old threads. Folks where questioning the hype even back when the PS4 version was all but confirmed (prior to the buyout). Also folks that have access to the game on PC (more than likely the definitive version) were questioning it as well.

This just seems like manufactured hype. It always has. Even back when they barely showed anything about it folks were acting like this was going to be the next big FPS. That has a lot to do with it.

 

[Computer]

I played the alpha. Did not like it at first. Felt to much like COD. I am a Halo kind of guy and hate Cod. After playing alpha for a while I was completely addicted. I put in over 10 hours in 3 days. It seams to have much more strategy and team work then shooters like Cod.At times its so fast and intense its crazy. After playing the alpha all other shooters feel so slow.

 

[Dreams-Visions]

Every week another of these threads. If you're uncomfortable with the hype for a game you haven't even played yet, why do you even care? This seems to be the only game everybody is trying to warn people about the hype. Wonder how much platform exclusivity has to do with that.

There is really no need to wonder.

A simple review of a posters recent post history often times tends to shed at least some light on the reason for all this "concern" about hype in the face of praise from GAFers who have played the game. These kinds of threads and similar comments (not necessarily applicable to this TC, as I don't care enough to look at his post history) can often be translated as, "this game isn't on my primary gaming platform of choice and I am not happy about that, so let me throw salt/shade under the guise of "genuine concern/confusion". The speed and hunger in which people desire to dismiss the game and people's positive impressions and get others to do the same tends to feel very deliberate in many cases, and again it's unsurprising when we check and see that many of those posters do not actively post in any PC/One/360 threads. It's often not a coincidence. Not from my purview. I'd be nice if people were honest with themselves about such things, though.

That said, this is not always the case, which is why I wouldn't immediately make that assumption of anyone questioning the hype. I primarily play on PC these days and to this day I don't understand the Minecraft craze. I've watched people play it on Twitch and I've played the demo for a couple hours. I just didn't get it at all. Same with Skyrim. BUT...I also understand that there are different strokes for different folks. Not every popular game will appeal to you (just like movie, music or food tastes from one person to the next). That's okay...they don't have to. It doesn't mean a thread needs to be made demanding people justify why they like Minecraft (or anything else that you may not like), though. Nor should people who've played TF or watched TF and enjoyed themselves feel forced to justify that they like what they've seen or played. At some point, you have to just accept that a game has appeal that may not tug at your own tastes but that there is obviously a quality experience there for those to whom it appeals. Usually that position shouldn't be asserted until you've at least TRIED a game, but you know how it is.

Some of the comments are clearly the later, but a lot of them seem to be the former. People for whom PC/One/360 are not among their primary/available gaming platforms and are trying to feel better about not having access to the game by convincing themselves (and trying to convince others) that the game is going to be mediocre/yawn/more-of-the-same. Despite all the reports that suggest otherwise from GAFers, random gamers, and the gaming press. People who actually get emotional or feel a sense of loss when they can't have/play something and feel compelled to activate defense/coping mechanisms to address insecurities.

That's just been my observation over the last few months but is no way definitive. YMMV.

 

[FreddieQuell]

Oh so you're here to save us all. Thanks. You are the hero I didn't realize I needed.

Have fun grinding unlocks and getting score popups.

 

[sp3000]

I still don't understand it. Pretty sure I've made this point before, but there are plenty of other games and series I don't really like - like Pokemon - but I can look at what they're offering and understand why others are excited for it. But Titanfall? I've seen E3 footage, watched interviews, watched alpha footage... I just don't see what's so special about it to warrant all the hype and praise it's getting from the media. The hype feels very, very forced.



For what it's worth, the game looked dull and uninteresting to me before it was bought.

Pokemon looks dull to me. Therefore it must be a dull game and I don't understand whats so special about it.

That's about how sound your logic is.

 

[Utnac]

Does MLG know this?!? This is huge news.

MLG isn't competitive gaming, it's just well marketed.

Competitive gaming is games with high skill caps, games like Dota2, Starcraft 2, Counter Strike.

CoD is just a case of who sees who first, there's nothing competitive in that.

 

[Fletcher]

Have fun grinding unlocks and getting score popups.

haha you're so angry about the fact that people enjoy those types of games.

 

[PairOfFilthySocks]

It looks like CoD with much greater flexibility and agility(wall-jumping, leaping into second-story windows). Plus, mechs. I wished it put a greater effort into distancing itself from the ADS perk-mania of CoD, but it at least looks like a much needed breath of fresh air for the genre.

Alas, it's treated to a disproportionately large amount of criticism and nit-picking, likely owing to its status as the XB1's "killer app".

 

[T.O.P]

Have fun grinding unlocks and getting score popups.

thanks i will?

 

[Tapiozona]

Have fun grinding unlocks and getting score popups.

Have fun being a bitter angry gamer, preaching from the sidelines as to why I'm not having fun.

 

[gemoran4]

Giant mobile suits, wall jumping and the makers of MW1 are developing it. It also just looks fun. It may not live up to the hype, but i hope it turns out to be good.

 

[Zombie James]

Pokemon looks dull to me. Therefore it must be a dull game and I don't understand whats so special about it.

That's about how sound your logic is.

I wasn't making a logical argument, it was my opinion.

 

[Captain Tuttle]

companies pay for forum posters and postive press, no way to know if the hype is real. The hype well has been poisoned.

you're paranoid.

 

[SAB CA]

I'm one of the very small handful gamers that doesn't get the whole repetitive deathmatch style of games. Then again I never played tag or war in the backyard when I was little and I kind of see these games as the realization of a dream of those kids. I know a lot of people get a lot out of them...but I gave TF2, Halo, COD, L4D etc. a try, and the repetitive "oh I'm dead -- now you're dead" kind of play mystifies me. But it definitely fascinates me to watch it grow so huge, I'd like to read a good book about the culture.

I think it's all in the outlook. I can't stand Single player games as long as I can Fighters, because I feel like I'm not earning anything in playing them. Sure, I get better at playing the SP adventure and it's difficulty, but.. so what?

In a fighter, I'm learning not only how to deal with a player specifically, but also an ever-growing range of challenges, from a vast variety of players. Learning how to identify the threats, categorize, and destroy them is more mentally stimulating than anything I'll ever do in a non-strategy RPG.

I imagine Shooter fans feel the same about their favorites. It's clear there's skill to the games, and learning how to deal with every type of opponent, learn each map, pick apart dominant strategies... it's exciting! And then you put in teamwork elements with friends, or learning how to force even mediocre players to do things that are to your personal advantage, and the potential for new experiences in each play become easier to see.

Not to mention the side that is simply googly eyed for big explosions, death, headshots, and an escape from reality that harkens to the simplest violent tendencies of man.

 

[Tapiozona]

I feel similarly to you with CoD when it comes to WoW-like MMOs, that have turned every semblance of RPG gameplay into addictive, soulless non-game treadmills. Your quest will only lead to people being annoyed with you, though. Everybody has to learn this lesson themselves, or simply be able to see slot machine design for what it is before playing.

As true as your comments are, nobody thinks they are capable of being manipulated. They're gonna lash out at you.

Ok so those of us who enjoy the game are ignorant blind sheep unable to discern real fun from perceived brainwashed fun? Sounds reasonable.

 

[MightyHedgehog]

I cannot recall there ever being so many threads dedicated to questioning the validity of the hype coming from those who have played a game that has yet to be released. It's a mixture of anti-popular, anti-MS, anti-excitement, from what I can tell. Game is the real deal, as far as core gameplay coming from at least twenty hours of Alpha test, anyway. Gotta play to understand, but if you need people to explain shit to you because you cannot simply understand that you're not everyone, there are plenty of impressions all across the net and on other threads here at NeoGAF. This kind of thread honestly makes me annoyed and sad that people feel the need to bring attention to their absence of interest in something that has been playable over the last year at various events and during test periods. We get tons of threads and posts hyping titles that have zero gameplay for the public or press to speak about in detail because there's nothing but pure fucking marketing hype for those still-unplayed AAA titles on the horizon and I see no threads dedicated to asking why it's hyped, casting those who hype it and anticipate it as fanboys or viral marketers.

 

[Definity]

Game looks like stupid fun to me. The wall run and double jump just seem so smooth.
Gotta feeling this game is either going to be loved or hated when it releases.

 

[Fletcher]

This is a game that gamers, i feel, should be rooting for. Even if you don't want to play it. This company was fucked over major by Activision and are now competing head on with said company. The success of this game could mean great things from a company that could make a game you are interested in down the line.

Or you can just hate it and be content with Activision's stranglehold on a series/genre.

 

[The Dutch Slayer]

Why is everybody so excited about it?

Because I played it and it feels like COD4 all over again that was such a FANTASTIC experience online I just want a new one.

 

[Magic Mushroom]

you're paranoid.

Indeed. There are thousands of people who played the game at tradeshows and of course the alpha itself, with the vast majority really liking it. But hey, manufactured hype! This game can't be good! I say so, despite not having played it!

Fine if you're not looking forward to it, but is it really so strange that others are?

 

[FreddieQuell]

I feel similarly to you with CoD when it comes to WoW-like MMOs, that have turned every semblance of RPG gameplay into addictive, soulless non-game treadmills. Your quest will only lead to people being annoyed with you, though. Everybody has to learn this lesson themselves, or simply be able to see slot machine design for what it is before playing.

As true as your comments are, nobody thinks they are capable of being manipulated. They're gonna lash out at you.

Good to know I'm not out here on an island by myself. And I guess you're right, it's just something you have to figure out for yourself, like most things in life are. When it hits you though, it hits you like a ton of bricks.

Have fun being a bitter angry gamer, preaching from the sidelines as to why I'm not having fun.

And by the way I have a ton of fun playing games.

 

[Principate]

I feel similarly to you with CoD when it comes to WoW-like MMOs, that have turned every semblance of RPG gameplay into addictive, soulless non-game treadmills. Your quest will only lead to people being annoyed with you, though. Everybody has to learn this lesson themselves, or simply be able to see slot machine design for what it is before playing.

As true as your comments are, nobody thinks they are capable of being manipulated. They're gonna lash out at you.

Eh mmo's are designed the way they are to get you to play as long as possible inorder to continue paying the monthly fee.

It's pretty terrible comparison. I understand your point but someone can play and fps for as long as they want move on and not have to pay extra. Wow-like mmo's revolve around keeping you to play because that's how they get their money. That's why those systems exist to the degree they do.

 

[mangochutney]

Because I played it and it feels like COD4 all over again that was such a FANTASTIC experience online I just want a new one.

What in particular did you like about COD4 that isn't offered by the subsequent CODs, and indeed is being repeated in Titanfall?

 

[Winternet]

This is how I see it:

- If you're NOT a COD fan, Titanfall is nothing to be excited about.
- If you like COD then I can definitely see the appeal.
- If you're a COD hater and find Titanfall to be exciting/amazing/inovative you're a fucking hypocrite.

By the way, google "cod with mechs" and tell me what you see.

 

[Juliet's 8½ Spirits]

MS+EA marketing $$ = sellout gaming publications

Spoiler

it does look kinda fun though

 

[GavinGT]

What in particular did you like about COD4 that isn't offered by the subsequent CODs, and indeed is being repeated in Titanfall?

He's talking about the experience of playing CoD4 for the first time. Not the specific mechanics it offered vs. the subsequent games.

 

[Fletcher]

What in particular did you like about COD4 that isn't offered by the subsequent CODs, and indeed is being repeated in Titanfall?

Who is to say he didn't enjoy the following games in the series. He may have just meant the freshness of the series at the time of it's release.

 

[Dreams-Visions]

This is how I see it:

- If you're NOT a COD fan, Titanfall is nothing to be excited about.
- If you like COD then I can definitely see the appeal.
- If you're a COD hater and find Titanfall to be exciting/amazing/inovative you're a fucking hypocrite.

By the way, google "cod with mechs" and tell me what you see.

This presupposes that the game plays like CoD, or that the things that some disliked about where CoD went are present in Titanfall.

That's a lot of assumptions. Care to revise?

 

[gtj1092]

It looks like CoD with much greater flexibility and agility(wall-jumping, leaping into second-story windows). Plus, mechs. I wished it put a greater effort into distancing itself from the ADS perk-mania of CoD, but it at least looks like a much needed breath of fresh air for the genre.

Alas, it's treated to a disproportionately large amount of criticism and nit-picking, likely owing to its status as the XB1's "killer app".

Isn't the opposite also true about the hype. People bring up titanfall in any conversation to explain why xb1 is going to surpass the sales of ps4 upon its release. Basically people are hyping it and downplaying it on both sides because its xb1's killer app.

 

[HariKari]

This kind of thread honestly makes me annoyed and sad that people feel the need to bring attention to their absence of interest in something that has been playable over the last year at various events and during test periods.

Even though there are plenty of cringe worthy reasons for hating on this game swirling around right now, I think you are missing one. There's a large segment of people who like shooters that are burnt out on CoD style treadmills. Now, Titanfall has a few twists (they are not unique and have been done before) and a solid group behind it, so people are going to give a lot of attention. There's also a lot of money behind it because everyone is looking for the next big thing.

Some are disappointed that the next big thing is a 6v6 CoD-style treadmill where you "gain XP, unlock things, buy DLC." I think there's an opportunity there that was missed.

 

[Principate]

This is how I see it:

- If you're NOT a COD fan, Titanfall is nothing to be excited about.
- If you like COD then I can definitely see the appeal.
- If you're a COD hater and find Titanfall to be exciting/amazing/inovative you're a fucking hypocrite.

By the way, google "cod with mechs" and tell me what you see.

I could give two shits about CoD and Titantfall interests me.

How about if you like mostly multiplayer shooters with some focus on movement

 

[T.O.P]

- If you're a COD hater and find Titanfall to be exciting/amazing/inovative you're a fucking hypocrite.

this one is new lol

 

[QaaQer]

Right, this is definitely true to an extent, but I feel we didn't get nearly this much pushback reaction for TLOU despite huge hype.

I don't remember, was there a hyperbole laden campaign pre-release? That game was off my radar cuz zombies + 3rd person cover shooting + naughty dog sounded dull.

 

[Falifax]

This is how I see it:

- If you're NOT a COD fan, Titanfall is nothing to be excited about.
- If you like COD then I can definitely see the appeal.
- If you're a COD hater and find Titanfall to be exciting/amazing/inovative you're a fucking hypocrite.

By the way, google "cod with mechs" and tell me what you see.

What if I don't like CoD but find Titanfall exciting because it reminds me of older games such as Battlefield 2142, Mechwarrior games, am I still a fucking hypocrite?

 

[Ol No Bones]

"I don't see what's so great about half life. It just looks like a generic shooter with a crowbar."

I see no reason why anyone should take me seriously after I say this. If you don't like a certain game that's perfectly fine but it doesn't mean the people who really like it are just dupes for media hype. I don't really doubt that the media that did hype the game actually liked it that much. Maybe its just a good game. I look forward to trying it.

 

[Milennia]

Even though there are plenty of cringe worthy reasons for hating on this game swirling around right now, I think you are missing one. There's a large segment of people who like shooters that are burnt out on CoD style treadmills. Now, Titanfall has a few twists (they are not unique and have been done before) and a solid group behind it, so people are going to give a lot of attention. There's also a lot of money behind it because everyone is looking for the next big thing.

Some are disappointed that the next big thing is a 6v6 CoD-style treadmill where you "gain XP, unlock things, buy DLC." I think there's an opportunity there that was missed.

Indeed.
I was burnt out on COD and am very much so interested in this game.

 

[Dreams-Visions]

this one is new lol

Becuz same game bro. No difference at all.

 

[mangochutney]

Who is to say he didn't enjoy the following games in the series. He may have just meant the freshness of the series at the time of it's release.

I didn't say he disliked the subsequent games. I'm just asking what COD4 offered that made him feel how he felt, and what Titanfall is offering to match that feeling. For COD4 to be his highlight it must have offered something above the other games that again, Titanfall is also providing.

Reason being is that I see a lot of people say oh COD4 this, MW2 that such goodness, much wow but never actually list real reasons why. I'm sure they have some - they just never give them.

 

[Galactic Barret]

I was thinking something similar. I believe the hype for Titanfall has solidified since the beta, but before that, I had the strongest sense that all the hype about it was... manufactured? The people behind the news kept saying how excited they were, but I didn't feel any buzz and threads about it around here seemed to die out pretty quickly opposed to other game threads. I thought it may have been my apathy towards the Xbox killing any hype I could muster for it, but as a junior Is can't make threads and Titanfall thread never seemed to bubble to the front page so... I'm gping to read the thread and get a general Idea of GAF's hype. Thank you, OP.

 

[VlaudTheImpaler]

MLG knows that CoD is the highest selling videogame franchise of all time.



I might have gone a bit overboard, but if you think this is totally off base ask yourself this. What product reaches the level of success as CoD without going for the lowest common denominator?

Look, I absolutely cannot stand Justin Bieber who draws in millions of the same type of obsessive crowd you are talking about. Would I let my kid listen to him? Probably not. Would I judge and look at people differently who are obsessed with him? Of coarse. But at the same time I'm not going to crap on the people that do enjoy him just because I don't. I will never support him but at the same time I'm not going to take up a sign in protest against him for no good reason either.

However, if you ask for my opinion (which is what I think the OP was doing albeit a little shady) I will tell you what I think. But this conversation was geared more towards what you said about why you are always so outspoken against cod. I guess I just don't think that, "they made an addictive game," is a good enough reason to go all occupy wall street friend.

Spoiler

[puts on tinfoil hat] Unless Activision is using that addictiveness to create a pre-teen army to take over the world through subliminal messaging. [removes tinfoil hat]

 

[Winternet]

This presupposes that the game plays like CoD, or that the things that some disliked about where CoD went are present in Titanfall.

That's a lot of assumptions. Care to revise?

Assumptions? I've seen the videos on dailymotion.

 

[Brolic Gaoler]

This is how I see it:

- If you're NOT a COD fan, Titanfall is nothing to be excited about.
- If you like COD then I can definitely see the appeal.
- If you're a COD hater and find Titanfall to be exciting/amazing/inovative you're a fucking hypocrite.

By the way, google "cod with mechs" and tell me what you see.

I'd hate to see things from your POV.

Assumptions? I've seen the videos on dailymotion.

Then you'd realize this game has a lot more going on than COD.

 

[Winternet]

Then you'd realize this game has a lot more going on than COD.

Sure, it has mechs and jetpacks. AC3 had trees. so what?

 

[Jack Scofield]

I agree that the hype is somewhat manufactured, but I can say from experience that some of the hype is legitimate. Before knowing anything about the game (the name, developer, console), I saw the E3 video starting about one minute in, and I was so impressed by its fluidity and gameplay.

Later, I hear it's the long awaited Respawn game, which hyped me up even more. So the hype does come from somewhere.

 

[AlteredForms]

It's getting a little crowded in here and not for the better. Please ask one of the moderators to close down this thread to avoid any arguments and personal insults. I wasn't expecting the response to be so rabid. But I guess that gives me an idea of this generation of gamers.

 

[antitrop]

After seeing the alpha footage I still don't get the hype. It really, truly does look like a COD mod or if COD went to the distant future like some rumors suggested a couple of years ago.

That's the point, brohan. Call of Duty is still a great formula, at its core. They just haven't done anything interesting with it in 6+ years.

Titanfall is that "something interesting" tacked on to the tried-and-true CoD formula, that makes me excited for the game.

It's no surprise that people that never liked CoD in the first place don't care about Titanfall, but it should be no surprise that people who used to really be into CoD and are looking for the a unique spin on the good ol' familiar feeling are excited about it.

Basically, it's the Call of Duty sequel we should have already had.

 

[PanicFreak]

It looks like it will be lots of fun.

 

[VlaudTheImpaler]

Assumptions? I've seen the videos on dailymotion.

Seeing a video of a game =/= playing a game. At least not in the universe that I'm typing this in.

 

[MustacheBandit_]

The only negativity I see about this game is from this forum. The game looks amazing and the hype is being generated from people who have played it. Not sure how this game has generated such salt from some of you.