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[Sho_Nuff82]

:lol SK needs to hire better modelers/artists.

I hope everyone realizes from the video that these are helmets, not hairstyles, on the flanking guards. :lol

 

[Y2Kev]

Oh my gosh...

 

[Kosma]

um no,

DD himself was the one started comparing his game to DMC in the beginning, but when he found out that TH was waaaaayyyyyyyyyyyy short of DMC (back at E3 last year), they started changing tune. Now Too Human is an action RPG

Seriously YOU expected a DMC game and now you're dissapointed. It's like those people that expected ED to be RE.

 

[mm04]

All that, and the reaction is still 50/50...I wonder how DD feels

You expected differently? Most of the people who actually own an X360 seem very interested. Almost all who don't own one, aren't. Not surprising at all. It would be a funny world if trailers and gameplay footage was released of games without mentioning which console it was on. I bet we'd see a lot more honest opinions of every game.

 

[jimbo]

Thank you. *Pees pants again* Best Tree of 2007 Award Locked!

 

[InterMoniker]

It looks like my job is done here. I am glad many seemed to like what they have seen so far and interest has been peaked.
.....
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Denis

What a cop out. You work here is done?

First of all the whole presentation is a mash up of Lord of the Rings meets Cyborg end of the world robots nonsense with some God of War presentation. That guy Henry said it was hard for him to explain what type of game this actually is, no offense but everything in there is a rip off of some other game or movie

For instance the camera system is straight up God of War style, then there was a sequence where the camera did the Gears of War "stupid Cnn Cliffy b style" camera shot.

Then the game play which is supposed to be a mash up of God of War meets DMC with Sci-Fi mixed inbetween. I know you put up the disclaimer "optimizations will occur" but the whole fighting system looked broken and slow. Like when one of the enemy's was floating mid air getting smacked. Very very clunky

"Look into the water, concentrate relax"

"An onslaught of robots and cyborgs while you try and defend teh world from take over"

:lol Cheezy "Collect Epic items"

What the Hell is Norath Mythology. I've never heard of it.

I'm not convinced unless the gameplay shapes up. Shape up or ship out.

 

[AltogetherAndrews]

What the Hell is Norath Mythology. I've never heard of it.

Norse mythology. And if you've never heard of that, then... well, I've got nothing.

 

[Tieno]

What a cop out. You work here is done?

First of all the whole presentation is a mash up of Lord of the Rings meets Cyborg end of the world robots nonsense with some God of War presentation. That guy Henry said it was hard for him to explain what type of game this actually is, no offense but everything in there is a rip off of some other game or movie

For instance the camera system is straight up God of War style, then there was a sequence where the camera did the Gears of War "stupid Cnn Cliffy b style" camera shot.

Then the game play which is supposed to be a mash up of God of War meets DMC with Sci-Fi mixed inbetween. I know you put up the disclaimer "optimizations will occur" but the whole fighting system looked broken and slow. Like when one of the enemy's was floating mid air getting smacked

"Look into the water, concentrate relax"

"An onslaught of robots and cyborgs while you try and defend teh world from take over"

:lol Cheezy "Collect Epic items"

What the Hell is Norath Mythology. I've never heard of it.

I'm not convinced unless the gameplay shapes up. Shape up or ship out.

omg, lolz.

 

[Zabka]

Seriously YOU expected a DMC game and now you're dissapointed. Only one to blame is yourself junior. It's like those people that expected ED to be RE.

He name drops DMC when discussing the combat in the IGN Weekly video.

 

[Mifune]

The combat definitely looks kind of clumsy, but I won't know for sure until I actually play it. And it seems like there's a lot more on the developers' minds than fighting.

I'd say the response has been greater than 50/50 in favor. And it's not like anyone is saying oh god it's the biggest piece of shit ever. Well, maybe that Norath guy.

 

[jimbo]

No you're missing the point again. Combat is the core of an action game like NG or DMC, Too Human does a ton of other things and it's core is not combat, expecting it too match a pure action game is not only unfair, it's completely unrealistic.

There has never been an action-rpg that had combat elements anywhere near a pure action game.

Yes, it looks like a bad DMC rip-off. Point is, a bad DMC ripoff is still a huge step forward for a game with deep exploration and RPG elements.

Exactly.

 

[InterMoniker]

omg, lolz.

Sorry if thats my 2 cents, I stand by it!

Norse mythology. And if you've never heard of that, then... well, I've got nothing.

Thanks maybe I'll goggle or wiki Norse Mythology.

 

[bendak]

What a cop out. You work here is done?

First of all the whole presentation is a mash up of Lord of the Rings meets Cyborg end of the world robots nonsense with some God of War presentation. That guy Henry said it was hard for him to explain what type of game this actually is, no offense but everything in there is a rip off of some other game or movie

For instance the camera system is straight up God of War style, then there was a sequence where the camera did the Gears of War "stupid Cnn Cliffy b style" camera shot.

Then the game play which is supposed to be a mash up of God of War meets DMC with Sci-Fi mixed inbetween. I know you put up the disclaimer "optimizations will occur" but the whole fighting system looked broken and slow. Like when one of the enemy's was floating mid air getting smacked

"Look into the water, concetrate relax"

"An onslaught of robots and cyborgs while you try and defend teh world from take over"

:lol Cheezy "Collect Epic items"

What the Hell is Norath Mythology. I've never heard of it.

I'm not convinced unless the gameplay shapes up. Shape up or ship out.

Too Human is going to be rated Teen at least, maybe you shouldn't bother with this thread since you won't be able to play it.

 

[szaromir]

You expected differently? Most of the people who actually own an X360 seem very interested. Almost all who don't own one, aren't. Not surprising at all. It would be a funny world if trailers and gameplay footage was released of games without mentioning which console it was on. I bet we'd see a lot more honest opinions of every game.

Basing on reactions to GTA IV trailer I think you're right.

 

[Kosma]

Then the game play which is supposed to be a mash up of God of War meets DMC with Sci-Fi mixed inbetween.

I swear to God that it was said a million times the game is an action/adventure/rpg.

Do you complain on the World Of Warcraft boards for the lack of RTS elements?

This board should have an IQ requirement or something because some people here are very slow.

What the Hell is Norath Mythology. I've never heard of it.

School. Stay in it.

Too Human is going to be rated Teen at least, maybe you shouldn't bother with this thread since you won't be able to play it.

:lol

 

[SpacLock]

What a cop out. You work here is done?

First of all the whole presentation is a mash up of Lord of the Rings meets Cyborg end of the world robots nonsense with some God of War presentation. That guy Henry said it was hard for him to explain what type of game this actually is, no offense but everything in there is a rip off of some other game or movie

For instance the camera system is straight up God of War style, then there was a sequence where the camera did the Gears of War "stupid Cnn Cliffy b style" camera shot.

Then the game play which is supposed to be a mash up of God of War meets DMC with Sci-Fi mixed inbetween. I know you put up the disclaimer "optimizations will occur" but the whole fighting system looked broken and slow. Like when one of the enemy's was floating mid air getting smacked. Very very clunky

"Look into the water, concentrate relax"

"An onslaught of robots and cyborgs while you try and defend teh world from take over"

:lol Cheezy "Collect Epic items"

What the Hell is Norath Mythology. I've never heard of it.

I'm not convinced unless the gameplay shapes up. Shape up or ship out.

...Chill out dude.

Apparently nobody is aloud to use camera systems that are in other games. You have to invent a crazy new camera system that's never been seen before every time you make a new game. That was one of the stupidest ****ing posts i've read in this entire thread so far.

I hope you don't like MGS4 because every single thing in that game has been ripped off from something.

 

[Ash_69]

Wow people are really exagerating how poor the animations are. Opening the video I expected complete crap, what I saw was fairly mediocre (not crap) with alot of potential.

Exactly what happened to me. Those animations are no where near as bad as some made it out to be, though having said that, I havent played GOW which people seem to be to comparing it to.

That video has seriously got me interested in this game, looks ambitious with a lot of very promising elements.

 

[Y2Kev]

I really like the graphics.

-Animation needs work. There are no enemy kickbacks and that is really terrible.

Game looks good!

 

[InterMoniker]

I swear to God that it was said a million times the game is an action/adventure/rpg.

Do you complain on the World Of Warcraft boards for the lack of RTS elements?

This board should have an IQ requirement or something because some people here are very slow.

:lol

Well I don't play WOW, and I understand the action/rpg/adventure crap. So why didn't he show any of the adventure or rpg elements?

Too Human is going to be rated Teen at least, maybe you shouldn't bother with this thread since you won't be able to play it.

Yeah maybe it's going to be to kiddy.

 

[jimbo]

He name drops DMC when discussing the combat in the IGN Weekly video.

And rightly so. I got a DMC vibe from the combat as well. It's a great description of what the combat looks like. But how do you get from comparing the combat, one aspect of a much larger game, to expecting a DMC game when that's not what Too Human is? Heck, if you factor in the online co-op....this game should be every PSO's fan dream.

It IS a mix of a lot of great genres. Heck, if PSO with its non-combat, lack of story, lack of graphics can make so many people happy, Too Human will absolutely put those guys in heaven. Especially if it's FREE. It is free online, right?

 

[Kosma]

Well I don't play WOW, and I understand the action/rpg/adventure crap. So why didn't he show any of the adventure or rpg elements?

Let me guess you've never played Diablo either?

 

[InterMoniker]

...Chill out dude.

Apparently nobody is aloud to use camera systems that are in other games. You have to invent a crazy new camera system that's never been seen before every time you make a new game. That was one of the stupidest ****ing posts i've read in this entire thread so far.

I hope you don't like MGS4 because every single thing in that game has been ripped off from something.

There was just a lot of mix and match going on thats all.

 

[bendak]

Yeah maybe it's going to be to kiddy.

I hope so, for your sake.

 

[jimbo]

Well I don't play WOW, and I understand the action/rpg/adventure crap. So why didn't he show any of the adventure or rpg elements?


Yeah maybe it's going to be to kiddy.

They actually talked about some of it. Multiple classes, tons of character customization, cyber upgrades, at least being able to get to level 50 in the game, online co-op and exploration, cinematic story telling....which is how the video actually starts out.

 

[InterMoniker]

Let me guess you've never played Diablo either?

No I have, a long time ago though. Like 5 years ago or more so it's been a while.

 

[AltogetherAndrews]

No you're missing the point again. Combat is the core of an action game like NG or DMC, Too Human does a ton of other things and it's core is not combat, expecting it too match a pure action game is not only unfair, it's completely unrealistic.

There has never been an action-rpg that had combat elements anywhere near a pure action game.

Yes, it looks like a bad DMC rip-off. Point is, a bad DMC ripoff is still a huge step forward for a game with deep exploration and RPG elements.

I'm not the one who established these expectations in the first place. Besides, you're still leaning on the shit argument that failures of other games should effectively give this game a pass. And I'm calling bullshit on that, especially when taking into consideration what SK itself has said about the game, and that the tame and conservative style seems like a very poor fit for the underlying mythological concept. It doesn't ****ing matter if it takes a small or huge step forward, if it doesn't cover the distance I'm going to comment on it. And right now, Too Human does not seem to feature the type of combat intensity and necessary animation model that would warrant much focus on the combat aspect at all. And to reiterate, I'm not the one who originally placed so much focus on that.

 

[Mifune]

I have a feeling that once we see gameplay footage of a level in context (which I assume is coming) it will look a lot better.

Personally I think it looks good already, but the combat will hopefully make sense when put in context.

 

[Kosma]

No I have, a long time ago though. Like 5 years ago or more so it's been a while.

If you said "No" then you'd have an excuse for your stupid post....but now.....

 

[Ark-AMN]

I really don't think the animation here is something that is going to get "fixed". That shit doesn't happen, not at this point in development.

Wrong Wrong Wrong Wrong WRONG!!!

My god, people who have a clue of the development process should really keep their mouths shut.

 

[Birds Gone Wild]

I don't think you understand anything, really. I care about the combat and animation aspect of a game that is at least in part based on combat. Hence why I'm limiting my argument to involve that aspect of the game. I'll argue about the story when that time comes, and the atmosphere I've already complimented. And that's as simple as I'm going to make it for you.

Why you are not perm banned from X360 threads I will never know.

You obviously don't like the system or it's games.

 

[spermatic cord]

Wow had no idea this game has 4 player coop. Does this include online too?

 

[Zabka]

And rightly so. I got a DMC vibe from the combat as well. It's a great description of what the combat looks like. But how do you get from comparing the combat, one aspect of a much larger game, to expecting a DMC game when that's not what Too Human is? Heck, if you factor in the online co-op....this game should be every PSO's fan dream.

It IS a mix of a lot of great genres. Heck, if PSO with its non-combat, lack of story, lack of graphics can make so many people happy, Too Human will absolutely put those guys in heaven. Especially if it's FREE. It is free online, right?

The combat is obviously a big focus of the game since leveling adds more moves and abilities to your repetoire. They specifically mention the depth of the combat as you advance, and also balancing eastern twitch gameplay with western statistical balancing.

 

[InterMoniker]

If you said "No" then you'd have an excuse for your stupid post....but now.....

Ok whatever, dude
:lol

School. Stay in it.

I love how you edited your post to throw that one in. I've learned about Greek mythology but not Norse. I wikied it and it has nothing to do with sci-fi. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Norse_mythology

Wrong Wrong Wrong Wrong WRONG!!!

My god, people who have a clue of the development process should really keep their mouths shut.

Nice tag. Just wondering if you make games for a living?

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[Y2Kev]

Watched it twice. I like what I see a lot. Combat needs some tweaking. I am pretty confident the game will be good now.

I liked the environments a lot.

 

[AltogetherAndrews]

Wrong Wrong Wrong Wrong WRONG!!!

My god, people who have a clue of the development process should really keep their mouths shut.

If you had bothered reading other posts of mine in this thread, you might have saved yourself the trouble of making this post. My issue with the animation has little or nothing to do with technical issues.

 

[tegdf]

looks awesome

 

[Birds Gone Wild]

I really don't think the animation here is something that is going to get "fixed". That shit doesn't happen, not at this point in development. It's clearly a design choice, not a very good one considering the combat focused gameplay, but no developer is a mountain and SK clearly isn't in the business of dazzling us with incredible animation. At least it will look good in stills and calm scenes, and the environments are certainly awesome.



Mattyboy doesn't need a gun to his head to slobber all over SK, if that's what you mean.



Norse game settings my ass.

OMG why are you in this thread???

Can we get a filter applied to keep this avatar out of Xbox related threads?

 

[Kiriku]

What the Hell is Norath Mythology.

:lol

And fix your avatar dude, it's too big.

 

[Kosma]

I've learned about Greek mythology but not Norse. I wikied it and it has nothing to do with sci-fi. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Norse_mythology

You mean ancient mythology actually has nothing to do with science fiction? And you needed wikipedia to tell you that? :lol

 

[Ark-AMN]

If you had bothered reading other posts of mine in this thread, you might have saved yourself the trouble of making this post. My issue with the animation has little or nothing to do with technical issues.

I did, it doesn't change the fact that the statement I quoted was wrong in everyway possible.

The preview did the job. Interest has been raised in most sensible people here, as opposed to the complete panning it got last E3. The upcoming media should continue to raise interest as well.

 

[AltogetherAndrews]

Why you are not perm banned from X360 threads I will never know.

You obviously don't like the system or it's games.

I'm talking about specific aspects of Too Human, which would suit a thread about Too Human very well. You on the other hand are talking about me, and you even attempt to drag system wars into it. Who is really the worst fit for this thread?

I did, it doesn't change the fact that the statement I quoted was wrong in everyway possible.

No it isn't. Taken out of context, sure, but my argument is perfectly valid. I understand that Too Human is for one reason or the other very dear to you, but there is really no reason to let that cause you to act like a barnaclehead.

 

[Birds Gone Wild]

I'm talking about specific aspects of Too Human, which would suit a thread about Too Human very well. You on the other hand are talking about me, and you even attempt to drag system wars into it. Who is really the worst fit for this thread?

Unless you can get your post history wiped I really don't think you have a leg to stand on.


Then again who knows, you have lasted this long trolling nonstop.

 

[lix2k3]

Game looks frickin' amazing...Wow!!! 5 things that stood out to me:

1)The control scheme seems to aid in seamless switching between long-range and short range combat...excellent.
2)A lot of variety in the main character in terms of looks and skills
3)for a game that has a lot of exploration involved, the running animation is not perfect
4)The music already sounds epic/legendary/classic
5)The uniqueness of the story with the matrix/norse mythology backdrop will definitely result in some exciting environments and storyline twists

Overall, this game is sitting nicely at #1 on my most wanted list. I'm sorry Mass Effect, but this game is just seeming way more interesting, especially the combat. ME will sit comfortably at #2 though. The animation looks fine, considering this is a fast-twitch type of game. The number one concern that I have is that the enemies, no matter how large or small, all appear to be quite dumb, which obviously may have been done by design.

oh, I almost forgot.... the graphics are off the chain!

 

[NinSoX]

Better watch out. The Canucks lost last night (shutout by TURCO :lol ) so you know Bishoptl is in a maniacal rage now...

Anyway I watched the video a few times. Other than framerate and animations, what else do the haters have to complain about and why did it need a thousand posts to express it?

 

[TheQueen'sOwn]

I've learned about Greek mythology but not Norse. I wikied it and it has nothing to do with sci-fi. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Norse_mythology

Wow. Just... wow.

 

[Ark-AMN]

Other than framerate and animations, what else do the haters have to complain about and why did it need a thousand posts to express it?

This is GAF

 

[Uncle]

Wow had no idea this game has 4 player coop. Does this include online too?

Yeah, it has online co-op.

http://blogs.ign.com/silicon-knights/2006/07/13/24819/

"You have an action RPG game with a robust leveling system where you and a few friends can hop online and play through the entire game or just some small parts. You all work together with different skills and abilities, combining moves and coordinating attacks together. Not only will this give you more combat advantages, but it actually gives you different results. And, all the while everyone is gaining experience and loot. "

I've learned about Greek mythology but not Norse. I wikied it and it has nothing to do with sci-fi. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Norse_mythology

You are so awesome.

 

[InterMoniker]

You mean ancient mythology actually has nothing to do with science fiction? And you needed wikipedia to tell you that? :lol

I meant Norse Mythology has no Science Fiction elements in it or

Ancient Mythology has nothing to do with Science Fiction

Poindexter

 

[Birds Gone Wild]

I meant Norse Mythology has no Science Fiction elements in it or

Ancient Mythology has nothing to do with Science Fiction

Poindexter

Where's that Jaws GIF? That would make this google image pastefest complete imo.

 

[My Arms Your Hearse]

I meant Norse Mythology has no Science Fiction elements in it or

Ancient Mythology has nothing to do with Science Fiction

Poindexter

This guy can't be for real :lol