Shining Sunshine
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Well I hope no one copies Ubisoft's shitty collectathon open world design.
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Top 10 Grossing Retail Games of 2014, Ubisoft notes half were open world
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AHA-Lambda
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Super Stardust
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wow uncharted 4 will be open world, is this why ND delayed it?
Morrigan Stark
Arrogant Smirk
Monolith sure did.
Zombegoast
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By freedom they mean doing the same shit across all their game.
Absolute brilliance, sometimes simplicity is perfection.
In saying that though, I do enjoy my Ubisoft open world titles, but I honestly can't pinpoint why.
The first time I tried to explore in Destiny, I was given 4 seconds to turn around or die. I love the game, but "explore everywhere" does not belong in a description of it.
Fully open worlds can be great when done right.
Newtype-001
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Watch how the market gets saturated with boring open world games. this industry finds it so difficult to have any sort of middleground when it finds its next cow.
Wreck-It Ralph
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Doesn't that mean the other half of 2014 best sellers weren't open world? So... there's also an appetite for that, right?
flaxknuckles
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Need more games like Crackdown that actually build the missions into the game structure and let you affect the world. More interactivity with stuff is needed too, I'm tired of only being able to interact with civilians by killing them.
Americanmushroom
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Open world sucks except for open world games. lol.
What I mean by that is i dont want fucking Racing games, Adventure/Action Games, Horror games, RPG's to all be open world
What I mean by that is i dont want fucking Racing games, Adventure/Action Games, Horror games, RPG's to all be open world
The problem with saying a blanket statement like that is it is not entirely correct, yes the formula has been done to death to the annualised titles, but it does not instantly make those games worse off, for some people they enjoy what that formula produces. I for one found more enjoyment out of the more 'formulated' Unity over the AC4 pirate game, because it was more like the previous games formula.
In regards to the series you mention here, elder scrolls/dragon age, I feel as if they have been improved, they have taken the base that the previous games (at least in part) built.
In the case of skyrim, the game was a increase of things to do in almost every case. I can understand people liking or preferring previous entries in the series, but to say they would be better for not applying the franchises 'formula' or DNA would potentially alienate the fanbase they have worked so hard to get hold off. This does not make the games worse, it makes them part of a franchise that has certain themes to them, to change it too much would cause some different but equally valid criticism (dead space 3 is a good example here).
I do agree that every game franchise shouldn't just churn out sequels, but I would argue against changing it too much as well.
daninthemix
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If Uncharted 4 is anything even remotely resembling open world, I will eat my hat.
Naughty Dog games are one of the biggest arguments for open worlds, as whenever I play them I do so with the nagging sense that I might as well be watching someone else do it, saving myself the energy, and the end result would be exactly the same.
Also, I don't subscribe to the 'Ubisoft formula' crap - the Far Cry games are fantastic, and you can simply engage with as many or as little of the activities/collectibles as you wish, while inhabiting a massive and beautiful environment.
I suppose the same can be said of AssCreed, but AssCreed - a game of movement and combat - always seems to make such a chore of both movement and combat. Nonetheless, the worlds themselves hold great merit. Simply existing in them has a certain appeal, even if the gameplay sucks.
Ubisoft makes good open world games and bad ones. Their world-building is fantastic, even if their game-building isn't, always.
joecanada
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Open world is what many of us crave but it was about freedom of choice. Sick of " you must use the yellow key for the yellow door" we craved something more. Vice City was a huge step forward. Want to race me? Here eat an RPG then let's race. oblivion - I think I'll kill that old lady because she looked at me wrong.
This doesn't include climbing 20 towers and 20 of the exact same assassination missions, it also doesn't include taking all my weapons away and forcing me into a psychedelic world to ring a bell or shoot crazies with a bow and arrow. How about wandering a hipster hell office building to deliver a fucking package
Ubi thinks they know, they have zero clue.
This doesn't include climbing 20 towers and 20 of the exact same assassination missions, it also doesn't include taking all my weapons away and forcing me into a psychedelic world to ring a bell or shoot crazies with a bow and arrow. How about wandering a hipster hell office building to deliver a fucking package
Ubi thinks they know, they have zero clue.
Lol @ Destiny. It's about as open world as Battlefield 4.
Edit: I will add that I wish it was truly open world. They certainly made it seem like it was going to be before release. I know I specifically remember someone at its unveiling say "If you see it, you can go there," talking about traversing the worlds. Such a shame. Probably my biggest disappointment in a game ever.
Edit: I will add that I wish it was truly open world. They certainly made it seem like it was going to be before release. I know I specifically remember someone at its unveiling say "If you see it, you can go there," talking about traversing the worlds. Such a shame. Probably my biggest disappointment in a game ever.
Here's my question is a world truly open when its plastered with precise objective markers and that entail repetitive tasks? Just because its a big space you can move in doesnt make it a WORLD. I'd argue a world is a living breathing dynamic thing. A world is a vast expanse than can be explored and discovered organically not via precisely placed checkpoints. There's a massive difference between a world and a checklist no matter how impressively long or ornate that checklist might be. UbiSoft needs to learn that and until they do their games will continue to be virtual guided tours complete with limited premade tasks disguised as "discoverable content."
If UbiSoft wants to see a contemporary open world game that is getting the idea of a true open world dynamism, discovery, and exploration they can look to what No Man's Sky is attempting to do or what Fallout New Vegas accomplished.
If UbiSoft wants to see a contemporary open world game that is getting the idea of a true open world dynamism, discovery, and exploration they can look to what No Man's Sky is attempting to do or what Fallout New Vegas accomplished.
And this is why I plan on getting an XBO.
As a fan of open world games I like that its doing well.
Melchiah
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Destiny only for me. I hope these sales results, and the reviewers' infatuation with open world games, won't lead to an overabundance of them in the future.
Petrae
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Open-world games lose my attention quickly. I start out okay, but then I drive/walk/ride around aimlessly for awhile and lose track of & lose interest in what I'm supposed to do to move the story along.
That said, it's obvious that open-world games are the hot thing right now. More open-world games means fewer purchases for me, which is fine. Meanwhile, those who like the open-world model will have a lot to look forward to going forward.
That said, it's obvious that open-world games are the hot thing right now. More open-world games means fewer purchases for me, which is fine. Meanwhile, those who like the open-world model will have a lot to look forward to going forward.
Braag
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Someone should caption a gif of Todd Howard saying this.
IsntChrisL
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Ubisoft makes the worst open world games. I think I saw Amirox call them "map cleaning simulators," which I thought was a good description of the shit they pump out year after year. I wish people didn't eat it up so much. These games are soulless iterations year in and out.
Hans.Gruber
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Oh come on, what's up with that elitist hipster BS?
Games like FIFA and Madden transcend gaming and sell systems, if you like the sports you will have fun with them.
Chocolate & Vanilla
Fuck Strawberry
I'm a glass-half-full kinda guy so I prefer to say half of the top ten are not open world. That's a much more positive headline
nephilimdj
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So many haters, but man I cant wait for Just Cause 3 and Xenoblade X
daninthemix
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Some let you turn the HUD elements off, thus making it the player's choice. This is better than annoying those people who do want waypoints etc.
It's not open world don't really know what the poster was talking about. It's open linear where you have multiple paths and routes to reach the same point.
Football (both kinds) is really really really really REALLY popular.
Hours Left
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I only bought Smash Bros.
Yup. AC games do this since the first one and have a ton of visual and audio cues to avoid using the minimap. Sometimes it's necessary to take a look at the world map, but most of the times you can play without it. Wait, AC did something right? Does not compute. Ubi is satan, AC is the devil and open world will destroy gaming. According to GAF.
This is correct, and I've been saying this for a while: don't use the map (if the game allows it). Open world is about exploration, if you have a map with everything marked on it you're sucking all the fun out of the game. It turns exploration into grinding; there's no discovery because you already know what you're going to find.
Triggerhappytel
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Dirtyshubb
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LOL i actually like Ubisoft games but this is too damn good.
Thing i loved about Bloodborne is that there wasnt a map, it really made me work out where to go and as a result i actually remember all the paths and areas and how to get there which made the game much more memorable and special. Its been years since i have played a game where i have been able to do that and i realised its the over reliance on maps and waypoint markers.
With most other open world games i hardly ever remember exact locations or routes to get there because i just stick the waypoint on and away i go.
Surface of Me
I'm not an NPC. And neither are we.
I honestly think the open world in FC4 is really awesome, it might be because the only Ubisoft games I play are the FC series tho.
Wouldn't go that far, but I'm closer to you than most, I think.
JimmyRustler
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I may be one of few sadly but while I do like open world games, I'd love to see more refined experiences. A game that I can complete within 10 hours and is not filled with useless shit. The RE games are the ones I probably put in the most game time and those are all short games, but they have replay ability.
Does anyone actually ever replay an Assassins Creed? I do enjoy those games but I'll never replay them.
Does anyone actually ever replay an Assassins Creed? I do enjoy those games but I'll never replay them.
The waypoints, objectives, checkpoints...etc were photoshopped into the image to resemble generic open world games, the game itself has none of those (except the health bar), you have to figure everything out yourself.
Lol, that's damn good. I should have known better.
Somehow related, the latest AssCreed reveal had a mission demo where the bad guy you were fist fighting was still glowing white around the edges because it was tagged a minute ago. It looks jarring and out of place for sure. The guy is already trying to kill you, and he is still glowing as if you'd leave him be if he wasn't highlighted or something.
Jaded Alyx
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Nintendo doesn't do that though.
And besides the difference in stages, they are the same game. Rogue and Unity are two completely different games.
Same thing I was about to post and there it is number 1.
I have over a hundred hours invested in the game, and a portion of that was doing random bounties, patrol missions etc, in whatever order and way I wanted. Most of the time I'd just arse about exploring areas and completing these missions whilst collecting loot, scavenging for materials and so on. What you're describing is no different to false barriers and no go areas popular in just about every open world games out there.