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Totilo: The PS4's Cloud Save System Is Inadequate
- Thread starter mattiewheels
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brickarts295
Member
All I ask is 5-10gb. Hell I'll manage with 2gb.
RedAssedApe
Banned
this should be in the OP
MarshMellow96
Member
I don't think the save gets deleted when you delete an install, it's just that you can't download a save from the cloud without having the game installed.
There are a few "big fish" games that just have idiotically huge save files relative to the cloud storage limit, but for my single-system usage, it's been manageable. But there's a friend who'll do local co-op gaming with me on my system, and he runs into practical issues with what has or hasn't synced often enough that it's annoying.
Not trying to defend Sony here but How often do hard drives fail and you lose said save data? Need that certain save because you know you're going to be logging onto another ps4? Then make sure that one is uploaded to the cloud.
They do need to do something about the save file size though.
They do need to do something about the save file size though.
MMaRsu
Member
Ahh so you are just spreading misinformation based on hearsay. No its not like that on PS4.
This is the real problem. What should be Kbs is Mbs.
Shao Kahn Brewing a Stew
Banned
Some save files are massive. Like 100MB massive. Got ten of those games and you're already done with their storage.
Sword Of Doom
Member
I've been fortunate cause since the ps4 launched I've been downloading super fast but how is this still an issue for some? Kind of embarrassing for a major platform
I didn't even know any could be under the minimum, nice to see someone not screw us over on size. Considering most games shouldn't be saving really any more data than they used to going back to the PS1 days I don't know why they need that much space.
Still surprised they haven't fixed that yet, it has been like 3 "stability" updates and it's still there. There has to be another big update coming right? otherwise I can't imagine why they wouldn't have fixed it yet.
this should be in the OP
Oh damn, Yoshida, that smack talk.
Fine Ham Abounds
Member
Yeah, the only place this happens is the Vita, the knee-jerk assumption being that this was to encourage PS+ subscription and purchase of egregiously overpriced memory cards.
RedAssedApe
Banned
lol NBA2K14 comes to mind. I think it had like 500MB saves at one point.
That was an incredibly flippant comment .
Teletraan1
Banned
Actual 10-30MB saves aren't the issue here since you could play a generation of games before filling up 1GB. It is the bullshit that gets uploaded as a "cloud save". The free version of singstar was taking up half my cloud storage for offline databases and pictures. What good is offline databases on cloud storage and I have never taken a picture in this game either. 500MB for absolutely nothing. If the actual 10-30MB were all that went up there it would be kinda sufficient. They should expand it just to make people happy.
Collateral22
Member
It doesn't.
Sword Of Doom
Member
Yeah it doesn't delete save files. I've had to clear up space in the past and went into my save files and saw files for lots of games I had deleted
Seven updates, I think. IIRC the problem started with the 2.50 update, we're at 2.57 and it still happens.
Spukc
always chasing the next thrill
dude you tell me.
It seems that sony cuts certain area's on the planet this is in NO way normal.
But pisses me off beyond believe because I KNOW it is not on my end...
netherlands btw..
RedAssedApe
Banned
bDoctor_Thomas
Member
mattiewheels
And then the LORD David Bowie saith to his Son, Jonny Depp: 'Go, and spread my image amongst the cosmos. For every living thing is in anguish and only the LIGHT shall give them reprieve.'
That's only really true if you can remove the game from trying to upload and specify ones you want to. Is there a way to disable save cloud uploading for an individual game, like you could on PS3? I haven't found it yet, and that's yet another backwards step in functionality if so.
SerTapTap
Member
I really do hope they fix this, but that's pretty funny right there
this should be in the OP
Hahahahaha, great response!
At my limit on PS4, Driveclub is taking up 325MB, Rocket League is ~100MB and Playroom is 90MB. That's 3 games taking up half of my storage, 2 that I actively play... (I'll deal with you later playroom)
1GB was fine on PS3 and more than enough on Vita, but by the end of the generation I can see it taking up at least 10GB on PS4 if I get roughly the same amount of games as I did on PS3 etc.
1GB was fine on PS3 and more than enough on Vita, but by the end of the generation I can see it taking up at least 10GB on PS4 if I get roughly the same amount of games as I did on PS3 etc.
LiquidMetal14
hide your water-based mammals
I love cross save but the limitation on storage is an issue. It needs to be 10gb at least.
somesayyea
Member
it is inadequate and I'm glad they're being called out on it.
I have the exact same problem man. Bought Elder Scrolls Online and it had a 15gb day 1 patch it took me 37 hours to download it and the same goes for any game that large, Wolfenstein took 2 days.
Download something that big on steam it takes 2-3 hours max same with any other service.
QuantumBro
Banned
Yeah, I don't have any idea how Rocket League and Apotheon's save files are over 100mb.
Sword Of Doom
Member
this should be in the OP
Is He having a bad day or what?
TimeEffect
Member
No plans? Really? So we're waiting another year?
BibiMaghoo
Member
this should be in the OP
Can't tell if dig at Kotaku or person that asked question...
No plans could also mean no improvement forever.
Yeah and everything in between.
Apotheon creates as many saves as a compulsive quicksaver in Max Payne 1 on the hardest difficulty.
LiquidSolid
Member
Yeah, it sucks. I had to turn off cloud save notifications because I was sick of seeing them every time I turned my PS4 on.
Or that they have plans but don't want to announce them yet. It's basically "no comment."
Or that they have plans but don't want to announce them yet. It's basically "no comment."
ShadowSoldier89
Member
man, thats pretty awful. I have 100mbit and my PS4 usually downloads at around 50mbit
RedAssedApe
Banned
seems tongue in check judging by jason's response. people shouldn't be going OMG drama over this haha
besides...how can you not giggle whenever shu uses those emoticons?
JohnnyFootball
GerAlt-Right. Ciriously.
It would be awesome if they could be linked to other services such as Google drop OR OR Microsoft OneDrive.
Mr Moose
Member
I'd love some more cloud space, I've had to delete some saves from it not too long ago :'(
Not sure why some people are claiming PS4 deletes your save files when you delete your game, they are separate in the delete options.
lol
Not sure why some people are claiming PS4 deletes your save files when you delete your game, they are separate in the delete options.
this should be in the OP
lol
CambriaRising
Member
It was never, ever like this.
The upload capacity limit is ridiculous. but I do like the current option of manual control over your saves that the PS4 has. It comes in handy being able to save exactly the version of the save you want. Sometimes I don't want a save auto-synced. For example, if you turn auto-upload off, if you makes an irreversible choice in a game that gets saved, it won't automatically overwrite your online save when uploaded.
They need to keep the choice to keep it manual or auto on a per-game basis, just increase the capacity.
They need to keep the choice to keep it manual or auto on a per-game basis, just increase the capacity.
silver.tongue
Member
I have no idea how you guys filled 1gb with save files... I mean, I have a ps3, ps4 and vita hundreds of games, and I'm still like, halfway. 
Spukc
always chasing the next thrill
same man!
what a joke. That eso patch took me 11 hours and today they launched a new one..i went ape shit xD
No it doesn't--it leaves the save on the HDD, but puts it in a folder titled "other" until the game its tied to installed again.
So he's saying, we need a #BetterPSN?