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Trump Orders Establishment of Sixth Military Branch - Space Force

Where will that $ come from since we are 1T per year under water now.

The Fed credits what the Treasury Dept needs, then there's a long chain of credits and debits throughout the banking system so that Bill and Jill get paid for their work in the Space Force. The transactions make their way electronically to clearing houses where it is guaranteed and settled.

You've been billions of $s under water since 2002. Unemployment is at 3.8% in 2018. You recently cut taxes by a lot. Your stock market is up. Pres. Trump is talking about MAGA. Why do you bring it up?

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Where do you think the $ comes from or how do you think your country has survived if being "underwater" is bad like you imply? It's as if you think your taxes are going up for every new thing or that someone is calling up the Chinese when you want to do something. It only happens in your imagination.
 
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Astronaut Mark Kelly says Trump's order to create a Space Force 'is a dumb idea'
But the retired NASA astronaut Mark Kelly — a former Navy pilot, combat veteran, four-time space-flyer, and the identical twin brother of the former astronaut Scott Kelly — doesn't support it, and some members of Congress are also voicing their distaste for the idea.

"This is a dumb idea. The Air Force does this already. That is their job," Mark Kelly tweeted on Monday with a link to a story on Military.com. "What's next, we move submarines to the 7th branch and call it the 'under-the-sea force?'"

Kelly was referring to the Air Force Space Command, though the group has had different names over the years.

Space Command is headquartered in Colorado, and its responsibilities include supporting military use of satellites, rocket launches, and cyberwarfare operations. The group also helps track the countless pieces of space junk and debris around Earth that pose a persistent threat to anything in orbit.

"Despite world interest in avoiding militarization of space, potential adversaries have identified the use of space as an advantage for US military forces, and are actively fielding systems to deny our use of space in a conflict," Gen. John E. Hyten, the commander of US Strategic Command, wrote in a white paper about the decision in 2016, when he led Space Command.

For and against a Space Force

Some members of Congress, especially those in the House of Representatives, appear warm to the idea.

"As we get all these briefings about what adversaries are doing, our dependence on space, it's clear that we have to do better," Rep. Mac Thornberry, the Florida Republican who chairs the House Armed Services Committee, told reporters last week, according to Space News. "Organizational changes don't fix all the problems. But on the other hand, they can sometimes help make sure space gets the kind of priority it should have, like cyber, as a domain of warfare."

But others in Congress — and apparently some high-ranking military officials — have questioned and pushed back on the thought of a breakout Space Force.

"The president told a US general to create a new Space Force as 6th branch of military today, which generals tell me they don't want," Democratic Sen. Bill Nelson of Florida tweeted on Monday. "Thankfully the president can't do it without Congress because now is NOT the time to rip the Air Force apart. Too many important missions at stake."

Stationing or testing any weapons of mass destruction in space, including nuclear weapons, is banned by the United Nations' Outer Space Treaty of 1967. Smaller-scale weapons are not barred, however, and experts fear that militarizing space could stoke a costly new arms race.

A war in space might also lead to something called a Kessler event. In this scenario, uncontrolled space debris could collide and create even more uncontrolled space debris, ultimately shutting off human access to space for decades, if not centuries.
 

rokkerkory

Member
The Fed credits what the Treasury Dept needs, then there's a long chain of credits and debits throughout the banking system so that Bill and Jill get paid for their work in the Space Force. The transactions make their way electronically to clearing houses where it is guaranteed and settled.

You've been billions of $s under water since 2002. Unemployment is at 3.8% in 2018. You recently cut taxes by a lot. Your stock market is up. Pres. Trump is talking about MAGA. Why do you bring it up?

Where do you think the $ comes from or how do you think your country has survived if being "underwater" is bad like you imply? It's as if you think your taxes are going up for every new thing or that someone is calling up the Chinese when you want to do something. It only happens in your imagination.

Someone has to repay our debt. We need to figure out who will take on that burden and what the plan is. This is a very conservative ideal and we are moving away from being fiscally responsible.
 

Dr. Claus

Vincit qui se vincit
What they should do is focus on funding the internationally known space program that helped further years of research in its race against Russia, y'know: NASA. Not create a "sixth" member of its military force that is utterly redundant to the other previous military groups.
 
activate phasers......

Unfortunately, we have to discover how to produce nadion particles first...because phasers and disruptors generate nadion partic-I'm reading too much into this. I agree. ACTIVATE PHASERS

Edit: With a space force, the range of ballistic projectiles is essentially increased to infinity. It's a shame a lot would miss and have their trajectories radically altered by external forces, but hey! AK 47 with a 2000 light year range!
 
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What they should do is focus on funding the internationally known space program that helped further years of research in its race against Russia, y'know: NASA. Not create a "sixth" member of its military force that is utterly redundant to the other previous military groups.
But when it comes to space, both the US and Russia work together(as well as other countries). So we are not in a race that happened during the Cold War.
 

John Day

Member
What would USA’s border in space be like? I mean to ask, how far does it’s jurisdiction reach? How will such lines be drawn?
 

John Day

Member
Also, what does this mean for international and multinational efforts on space exploration? How will other nations react?
 

Naudi

Banned
We can't feed our poor and most of us struggle to survive but always enough room in the budget to find new ways to kill people. We need less military not more. The military should be there FOR us, currently we are barely surviving so we can fund our military. Too bad it would be political suicide to run on defunding and completely overhauling military budget even though it would benefit every American and kill less innocent civilians all around the world.
 

Ke0

Member
At the rate America is going, the only purpose the federal government is going to service is the financial middleman between citizens and giving their money to the military. I don't see how this is fiscally conservative.
 
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