TheBomb
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It's entertainment. The industry makes lots of green!
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Twitch Source Code Leaked including Creator payout reports
Nobody_Important
“Aww, it’s so...average,” she said to him in a cold brick of passion
You don't buy viewers in order to get successful.
AJUMP23
Member
That is not the implication, but if you can buy them and get more money playing fake viewers ads than it cost to purchase than then you come out ahead.
Nobody_Important
“Aww, it’s so...average,” she said to him in a cold brick of passion
That would work if Twitch Ad revenue was actually worth anything. But twitch pays a pittance in ad revenue compared to YouTube.
So bot viewers doesn't actually work in terms of making money on Twitch. Their money comes from subs, donations, and sponsors more than it does ads.
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tkscz
Member
"Vinesauce: $11,205"
If I didn't already respect the man I really do now. You got people on twitch making millions a month and begging for donations/subscriptions. Vinny makes 100x less than they do and out right asks his viewers to not donate and tell them they don't have to subscribe.
If I didn't already respect the man I really do now. You got people on twitch making millions a month and begging for donations/subscriptions. Vinny makes 100x less than they do and out right asks his viewers to not donate and tell them they don't have to subscribe.
jakinov
Member
If you are a janitor, secretary or HR person you are going to make the same average pay you make everywhere else. If you play a critical part in the products/services either managing product/team or working on features/improvements (i.e. developers) you make really good money. Software developers outside of gaming make really good money. Twitch developers make a lot of money.
Oddvintagechap
Member
To me this is really nothing surprising. Anywhere people gather millions, they will makes millions. Radio, TV, movies, webcam.. like why is everyone acting stupid?
comshoplesce
Member
are these earnings taxed as income?
This post contradicts itself.
Trimesh
Banned
Maybe the simps are just acting embarrassed because the penny has finally dropped on the fact they are "donating" to people far richer than they are?
Lukaku's First Touch
Member
Found the guy donating 700k.
PropellerEar
Member
We need a poll on how much NeoGaf members spend monthly simping on Twitch.
AncientOrigin
Member
Exactly people like Nicholas Cage who got the roles because of his famous uncle I think it was.But it’s in every business like that every school cinema and so on.If you have connections you get the place reserved first.
Roxkis_ii
Member
Maiden Voyage
Gold™ Member
Unless they have a good accountant
Offshore havens and hidden riches of world leaders and billionaires exposed in unprecedented leak - ICIJ
The Pandora Papers reveal the inner workings of a shadow economy that benefits the wealthy and well-connected at the expense of everyone else.
www.icij.org
SaniOYOYOY
Member
Hate to tell ya but scientists turn to them too to keep themself entertained
jakinov
Member
This money is a lot tricker to hide. And it's very expensive to hide money so it's probably not worth it for them. For a lot of these streamers without external deals, this is also their main income so they probably not hiding it off somewhere. Without a big corporation with a lot of things going on and just Twitch being the one paying them. They don't have the same flexibility as other tax evaders.Unless they have a good accountant
Offshore havens and hidden riches of world leaders and billionaires exposed in unprecedented leak - ICIJ
The Pandora Papers reveal the inner workings of a shadow economy that benefits the wealthy and well-connected at the expense of everyone else.
supernova8
Banned
True nobody is gonna donate to someone who clearly looks like a multi-millionaire... but they actually do.
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supernova8
Banned
I wasn't rich growing up but I would have at least had a PC and maybe a webcam and a microphone (they are not expensive thing).
Sure his family was rich but I went to a rich kid school (I was one of the only non-rich kids there on a scholarship) and you'd be surprised how little their parents give them in the way of money for anything. Sure they got a roof over their heads but some of them were treated like shit even though their parents were stinking rich.
paparazzo
Member
FIXED versionRank Username UserID GrossEarning1 CriticalRole 229729353 96267 - Pastebin.com
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Not really, we all know once you earn a large amount the banks will step in and offer you "alternatives" to store your money. Shit that's why most large companies don't pay tax.
PuppetMaster
Member
WTF those numbers can't be right!
Streamers are making that much?
If so, damn there are lot of simps out there!
Streamers are making that much?
If so, damn there are lot of simps out there!
NiiloPielinen
Member
Wait until you guys hear about these people called "actors", they just memorize a few lines, step in front of camera to say them and get tens of millions for a few months work.
Von Hugh
Member
Vaelka
Member
It's plus everything else too like donations, merch, sponsors, and also some of them have special deals with Twitch where they get a bigger cut from the adds ( 80% I think ).
Keihart
Member
In all fairness, in twitch, you might as well do it but you might get caught.
It's not done because of ad money usually (sometimes it is done for ad money and sponsor deals) but the real usefulness of bots are so that people can jump to the front page or trend, Twitch's discoverability sucks ass, most streamers get their viewership from other platforms like twitter or youtube or Instagram, because the recommendations of twitch are mostly trending or hand picked, so at that point every small streamer is just rolling the dice until they get lucky and get front paged or hand picked unless they are able to somehow make it into trending one day.
In comparison, youtube and even twitter are able to push content creators to the audience based on their tastes, so even if youtube prefers channels with consistent content and high view count, there is still an active effort by the platform to push new content to users, that's why you sometimes get really obscure videos suggested after years of being uploaded sometimes.
I think it's a problem with streaming tho, i have no idea how you could tag streamers besides game and streaming section.
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For the butthurt posters, this is "entertainment money" , it's money that the ads companies and the people subscribing would otherwise be giving to big conglomerates like movie studios or TV Channels, so who cares if this is dripping down outside of those businesses? i feel no special sympathy for things like HBO and Universal and their show hosts and actors over Twitch and Amazon and their streamers.
If anything, money is getting distributed with a wider net now, dripping way further than Los Angeles and whatnot.
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