There's nothing irrational about the hate Unity is getting.
Obnoxious and dismissive defense force remains obnoxious and dismissive.
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Ubisoft stock drops over 9% after Assassin's Creed Unity launch
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There's nothing irrational about the hate Unity is getting.
Obnoxious and dismissive defense force remains obnoxious and dismissive.
Shocking.
EightBitNate
Member
He stated it was barely playable. Not only is that patently false, but he's not even played it. How does that make sense?
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When did I say that the hate was unwarranted? I'm talking about that users specific post, but go ahead and act like I generalized everyone if that makes your argument stronger.
Dimitri2401
Member
Ubisoft screwed up the launch for sure, but that kind of hyperbole is ridiculous.
SpikeDaPenguin
Neo Member
Good! Looks like even their microtransactions in a $60 game can't save them.
If this is your analysis of the situation then you'll never understand why people are upset.
Markitron
Is currently staging a hunger strike outside Gearbox HQ while trying to hate them to death
After Destiny Activision's Market Cap dropped by 1.5B See link (http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=896438)
What? There's no jump button, you just press forward. No timing necessary.
That being said, I'm having no issue with frame rate. There are some bugs, but they're mostly funny.
I usually don't say this but good. Hitting stock value is the only way we as consumers can clearly get our message through to these execs that releasing half baked, unpolished games wrapped in a blanket of insulting PR, marketing deals, and microtransactions is unacceptable.
Always-honest
Banned
Well the people that wanted to cash probably did (over the course of all those AC games).Too bad for the hard working devs that their name is in the credits
BloodMoney
Banned
what it is... is probably a good time to buy.
CambriaRising
Member
It's the same people in every thread ever since those shitty screenshots came out. They were on the defense force before the game even came out.
It's up to the individual. I find the frustrations of playing an AC city parkour game with framerate dips into the teens to be barely playable. My control of my character is heavily compromised with heavy framerate dips and sours the experience by a lot.
I'm talking about character movement. I'll try to turn one way to make my guy jump off one side of the building, but as the camera pans, the heavy framerate dips cause my character to move in a slightly different direction which causes my parkour to be imprecise.
RedRooster
Member
I want to believe regular consumers(outside GAF) are more savvy nowadays to do their research before buying, but sadly you're entirely correct and this mess will still sell crazy good. Nevermind how many in the next month it'll sell.
Shining Sunshine
Banned
There are definitely going to be cuts at the Montreal studio, and it's no one's fault but the Ubisoft's leadership. They relied too much on the Quebec game developer subsidy and it's getting cut. People are going to lose jobs because they wanted to save money.
http://ca.ign.com/articles/2014/06/...zing-future-following-government-benefit-cuts
And I bet all this microtransaction shit is in reaction to that subsidy cut. Ubisoft Montreal are in huge trouble financially.
Well at least their still atop CDSG - China DongSheng in stock value.
warped view? how? this game was released in shit state. someone ordered that release... someone told the devs its okay in its current state and to release it...
whoever that person is (those people are...) shouldnt be in that position. in any other business... something like that is grounds for termination... hire someone that knows what the fuck a game SHOULD be released looks like.
Pennywise83
Banned
Ubisoft behaviour aside, I find really worrying that an average score of 76 is considered poor, and that Destiny is considered critically panned with an average score of 75. Both are extremely good score, if you ask me.
I hope so but I think it's clear that the problem with Unity was, essentially, short time for developing it ...
They must sit down and have a serious conversation about how effective this method is...
Anyway I'm starting to liking the game, as I go forward ... reminds me ACII a lot, and that was what everybody was waiting for, in years...I think...
Yellowflashdude
Member
I have mixed feelings over this. On the one hand, they kinda deserved it for putting out half assed game like unity. On the other hand, this could potentially put them off the Ass creed series which I do love and enjoy.
like i'd invest in the shitshow Ubisoft.
AAA market is going to die in a few years anyway, i'll just wait
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Deleted member 17706
Unconfirmed Member
This thread is strong evidence that people sure do love a good riot.
I'll put down my shield and bail out while I still can.
I'll put down my shield and bail out while I still can.
The only AC game that has a MC score in the 90's at all is II and the PS3 version of Bro. None are higher than 91. The rest tend to be in the mid 80's. Anyone expecting the mid 90's for Unity has strange expectations.
That isn't to say that Unity ending up in the mid 70's isn't disappointing; it's definitely out of sync with the expectations for the series.
Honestly the most ridiculous thing about Ubi's stock dropping is people's reactions to it. A single day dip isn't going to cause them to change anything, really, and they're decent sales figures away from completely bouncing back from being "crushed" after an "abysmal" launch.
Coulomb_Barrier
Member
This really does serve them right.
With all do respect, this might not be indicative or correlated with their launch. Activision's stock also went down after Destiny (September 10th) and AW (November 4th), which can both be safely considered financial successes. We should not jump into assuming causation. This might very well be the stock behavior in the gaming industry.
After Destiny:
After AW:
Forgive me if I'm missing something, but these fluctuations are less than a percent while Ubi dropped by 9% in roughly the same timespan. Your examples can easily be explained as normal fluctuations, but I don't believe Ubi's case can be. Not when it's seeing 18 times the drop.
EightBitNate
Member
I agree it's glitchy as fuck, but to make such a profound statement without having played it yourself is silly.
Probably because I don't consider a score of 7+ or 70+ to mean a game is mediocre. Not sure why that'd change if they do.
76% Metacritic score for this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-PkzIGSyjLQ
The game was released today and there's already a collection like that.
The game was released today and there's already a collection like that.
Extremely good scores in a vacuum. Relatively poor when directly compared with other actual video game reviews.
Readers don't set the value of review scores, reviewers do. Don't blame the readers.
perineumlick
Member
I'm having fun with Unity, but so many things rub me wrong about how Ubisoft has handled the game. I'm really contemplating not even finishing it, and trading it in towards Dragon Age. At some point gamers have to take a stand, and stop rewarding developers when they start half-assing things. Bioware deserves kudos for delivering a game rich in content and polished, that doesn't look to hit gamers in the pocket with unnecessary micro transactions that reek of greed.
Sure, but that's still critically panned.
Unity wasn't as well received as it's predecessors but it's just shy of 80 so panned is not the right word to use it. Reviewers still sing it some praise.
It's nothing new that Metacritic scores are inflationated when it comes to video-games, this is just a reflex of how things are.
EDIT: Just to give an example, The Wolf of Wall Street got 75 metacritic score and was nominated for the Oscars and it's considered well received. In the video-game world the same score means panned. It also got reviews in the 20s something Assassins Creed never got.
This medium lacks actual criticism beyond "this game works so it's above 70" and "this is a low budget barely functional game so it's lower than 30". It needs real criticism.
Ingueferroque
Banned
You already rewarded them.
dantevsninjas
Member
The shame is, that is critically panned. As much as most games should be in the 6-7 range, the entire industry has basically decided that the scale is 7-10. It's really fucking pathetic, but it's the way it is. Very few outlets deviate from this, but if you read the text of some of the Unity reviews, and compare that to the score at the end, they often don't match up.
Which people? The first AssCreed was a complete technical disaster, launched with numerous game-breaking bugs, performance was garbage, screentear was horrific, reviews were terrible and it sold something crazy like six million units at or near full price.
Regardless of how many AssCreeds are 'generally' considered good, on GAF practically no one would call the first game good, and it made no difference whatsoever.
ProfessorMoran
Member
Well deserved, hopefully more reviews reflect the shit state the game is in.
I feel real sad for the people who put their heart and soul into making this game, the whole mandatory companion app thing, the micro-transactions, all the technical problems has hurt what might have been a great game.
And anyone else feel kind of ironic that Dragon Age Inquisition is getting praise while Assassins Creed is being hammered with criticism.
And anyone else feel kind of ironic that Dragon Age Inquisition is getting praise while Assassins Creed is being hammered with criticism.
Version 3.0
Member
I wonder what they're thinking over at Ubisoft right now:
A) We should've taken more time to get this game working properly.
B) We should've paid off more reviewers to keep that metacritic score up.
C) We should've threatened more review sites with pulled ads, no review copies and no swag.
A) We should've taken more time to get this game working properly.
B) We should've paid off more reviewers to keep that metacritic score up.
C) We should've threatened more review sites with pulled ads, no review copies and no swag.
It's fine if you don't consider it a lousy score.
But Pubs/devs clearly do.
7-10 scale is a real thing to the powers that be.
I played AC2, AC4 PS3 which had framerate dips that compromised character control. This game has been tested to have similar framerate dips on PS4. I'm not going to pay $60 to experience the exact same framerate issues as the PS3 games just so I can say I also played it and experienced these problems. The poor performance and lackluster reviews is enough for me to steer clear, at least until some patching happens.
Is there something significantly different here that makes teens framerate dips not compromise character control in the same way it did on PS3? Keep in mind I'm talking about the PS4 version which suffers from 4 fps lower fps than XBO. That might not sound significant until we're talking about 25fps to 21fps. It IS significant when we get to numbers that low.
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With all do respect, this might not be indicative or correlated with their launch. Activision's stock also went down after Destiny (September 10th) and AW (November 4th), which can both be safely considered financial successes. We should not jump into assuming causation. This might very well be the stock behavior in the gaming industry.
After Destiny:
After AW:
One of these drops is significantly bigger than the other one and AW will almost certainly be one of the lowest selling CoD's.