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Ukrainian Conflict - Donetsk Boogaloo
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They have nukes. Simple as that.
CHEEZMO™;102991280 said:
You joke now but when the Mexican demographic of the US becomes even larger you never know what could happen in the decades ahead. But as above, nukes rule the roost.
NYCmetsfan
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Lol. Being a jerk and having the resources of Russia which prevents a lot of counter measures doesn't make you smart.
RustyNails
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HammerOfThor
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If things keep escalating it's like we are going to repeat WWI on it's centennial :/
Fantastapotamus
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So one of the most powerfull men on earth maybe lost his touch to reality? That's.....not good
PJV3
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Well I was joking due to him controlling a shit load of nukes.
But the sort of power he hold has corrupted and deluded plenty of people. I can very easily see him thinking he's Napoleon.
So they issue an ultimatum and then issue another ultimatum.
It's not much of an ultimatum if it's not .... ultimate.
Dreams-Visions
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Does not look good.
I seriously cannot imagine that Russia is going for it. But on the other hand I doubt they will leave Crimea after going there in the first place.
If you're Ukrainan it's probably the safest idea not to mess with them. On the other hand it would show the world that Russia can get anything they want unless the West strikes back. If they get Crimea they could get the rest of the Ukraine as well. Who would dare to stop them? Who would dare to prevent this?
Okay, maybe i'm exaggerating right now. I just don't know. Giving away land to the opponent is really not a good way to show power. But what can they do? Except a few calls the world is doing nothing. And do you really think some calls could stop Putin?
like being part of NATO means shit, unless one of the "big" countries is touched, nobody is going to risk their own health to save a little country.
Osiris
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Russia have just requested an emergency UNSC meeting, starting in 4 hours.
Response to the initial actions by the West were predictable, reactions to todays events, should Russia initiate armed conflict against a sovereign state will be interesting.
Response to the initial actions by the West were predictable, reactions to todays events, should Russia initiate armed conflict against a sovereign state will be interesting.
So is NATO going to do anything or will the two ships kindly give in and allow for the client state of the Republic of Crimea?
Nah, most people who come here do well at assimilating. Plus it's not like most were trapped here after 1848 or they're getting kidnapped by business owners.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2DJFNygHqK8
Kharkov. About 30 Pro-Kiev occupants extracted from government building by Pro-Russian mob.
Kharkov. About 30 Pro-Kiev occupants extracted from government building by Pro-Russian mob.
He'll be fucked like napoleon and hitler once he invades rus...ah shit.
Someone call Schröder, maybe he can talk some sense into Putin. Guys were best buddies.
"lupenreiner demokrat"
flawless democrat is what Schörder called him back then lol.
This is crazy, by the time I get up tomorrow there could be war in Europe.
I'm pretty sure that article 5, that basically says "An attack on one is an attack on all", is one of the most basic foundations of the NATO. If they ignore that then they might as well close the club.
PJV3
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I always loved the Soviet anthem, I'm gonna start practicing.
Bring back the internationale!
Ukraine also has an agreement with USA/UK/Russia to protect Ukraine. That means very little in the real world apparently!
A higher than Georgia, because it's near "Important Countries" but no way is it near the closest the world has ever gotten to nuclear war.
Source?
You better edit to say you're joking or find a source quick smart.
Epsilon-delta
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Wtf? No, please don't do say that.
Welp, shit just got very real.
Meanwhile, the Russian Central Bank spent $10 billion of its foreign currency reserves on Russian roubles so far today, as well as jumping up the interest rate 1.5 points, as foreign investors continue to flee Russian markets. This is not a sustainable course for the Russian economy.
Nikodemos
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That particular agreement is worthless. It basically reads "In case of war, address the UNSC". Of which Russia is a member. With veto powers.
NATO's Article 5 OTOH is the real deal.
I don't think the Russians are going to storm into Ukraine by this evening. More likely, they're trying to scare the Ukrainian military into surrendering by leaking false information. Enough soldiers defect (the head of the Ukrainian Navy already did) and this thing is over without a shot being fired. All it takes is a base, the two...and this looks increasingly hopeless for the holdouts. Who probably aren't suicidal, as much as they want to protect their homeland.
Phoenician_Viking
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I am really surprised about China´s backing Russia. I would have thought they would remain neutral.
There are treatise in place to protect Ukraine, particularly for them disarming themselves of nukes. It pretty much goes against our foreign policy for the past few decades if we DON'T do something. It'll also set a precedent for other territory disputes in other regions, basically saying go ahead and take the land. So probably more like the former than latter.
That's near its border. It's been known for a while now and they aren't interfering in Ukraine.
Has Ukraine asked for assistance?
It says they're mobilizing their tanks along their border with Ukraine. Nothing but a defensive measure.
Nice misleading post btw.
Haven't a clue either, kinda obvious why they are doing it.
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