Ultimate Marvel Vs Capcom 3 (PS3/360 - Nov. 15) [Up: Entire Roster Leaked, Art In OP]

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Dahbomb said:
Just came in here to say that Foul Winds/Gravitation on DOWNED opponents is UTTER BULL SHIT. Capcom needs to give these new mechanics a second go WTF are they thinking?
This is what happens when you give Capcom an inch. Can you say Wesker gunshot OTG assist from any part of the stage? LOLZ

BAD CAPCOM!
 
SolarPowered said:
This is what happens when you give Capcom an inch. Can you say Wesker gunshot OTG assist from any part of the stage? LOLZ

BAD CAPCOM!
capcom is always too busy giving everything to top tiers that they don't have time to test shit. something sounds like a good idea? give it to a bottom tier character? hell no! give it to a top tier.
 

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Dahbomb said:
Just came in here to say that Foul Winds/Gravitation on DOWNED opponents is UTTER BULL SHIT. Capcom needs to give these new mechanics a second go WTF are they thinking?

The health on the new characters is about on par with what I had estimated beforehand although I had pegged Strange as 800K.

The real surprise is Wesker's 1 million health... all the matches I saw of Wesker he was downed in similar fashion to Dante and Vergil (900K health characters or lower). A 200K health reduction was expected all around. Maybe they reduced his health further in the newer builds or maybe they upped it from the original build because they thought it was too low.

PLEASE CHECK AKUMA COMMAND FLIP MOVES!!!! (Does he get something after RDP+ Att, add S) And general Dark Phoenix stuff.
Well now that Justin Wong spoke up, they've started listening.

*sigh*


Jintor said:
Two colours only. Everyone already knows about Deadpool's patchwork X-Men costume, right?
Yep.
 
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smurfx said:
capcom is always too busy giving everything to top tiers that they don't have time to test shit. something sounds like a good idea? give it to a bottom tier character? hell no! give it to a top tier.
Clearly they subscribe to Sanford Kelly rules when they need to pass around the good shit.

Capcom Dev A: "Look at this push and pull shit I gave Magnus!"
Capcom Dev B: "Son, that's nothing, check out these buster cancels I gave Zero."
Capcom Dev C: "Those moves are awesome guys, but you know Chun-Li still can't OTG. Maybe we should fix that--"

A & B: "Fuck that bitch, ain't no one playing her. And while we're at it, what the fuck is a Hsien-Ko and why is it in our roster?"
 
AzureJericho said:
Clearly they subscribe to Sanford Kelly rules when they need to pass around the good shit.

Capcom Dev A: "Look at this push and pull shit I gave Magnus!"
Capcom Dev B: "Son, that's nothing, check out these buster cancels I gave Zero."
Capcom Dev C: "Those moves are awesome guys, but you know Chun-Li still can't OTG. Maybe we should fix that--"

A & B: "Fuck that bitch, ain't no one playing her. And while we're at it, what the fuck is a Hsien-Ko and why is it in our roster?"
hsien ko? is she a DMC character? no sir she is not. fuck her then.
 

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7. MAGNETO: Can you mash buttons during his Magnetic Tempest hyper (quarter-circle back) for more hits? If so, how many times does it hit when mashed as fast as you can and how many does it hit if you don't mash at all?
Jintor said:
7. 72 hits with mashing - 33 hits without. Tested again - 68 hits with mashing.
DELICIOUS.
 
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Yeah RE is not all that hot in the tiers lists. Certainly no RE character is in ASS tier but only Wesker sits in High tier or above. Where as all DMC characters are High and above.

Sanford's new quote should be "Pick a DMC character".
 

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AzureJericho said:
Clearly they subscribe to Sanford Kelly rules when they need to pass around the good shit.

Capcom Dev A: "Look at this push and pull shit I gave Magnus!"
Capcom Dev B: "Son, that's nothing, check out these buster cancels I gave Zero."
Capcom Dev C: "Those moves are awesome guys, but you know Chun-Li still can't OTG. Maybe we should fix that--"

A & B: "Fuck that bitch, ain't no one playing her. And while we're at it, what the fuck is a Hsien-Ko and why is it in our roster?"
LOL!

This is so incredibly accurate, my mind can't focus right now.

PROTIP: Unmapped moves on early versions are unmapped. :p
 
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You only mash the top 3 buttons and leave the A or X alone.

Been discussing with my friend from the US who is a Spider Man player on Spidey changes. He was pretty confident on many of them so I decided to add them to the changelog.


+ Spider-Man's webs travel faster which includes his Web Balls and his Web Zips

+ The Web Ball, Web Swing and Spider-Sting (all of his specials essentially) can be canceled into Web Zips

+ Crawler assault, button mashing during this does more damage now

+ Spider Man's Web Zip is now able to hit OTG and you can go into Maximum Spider after it

+ Web Throw tosses opponents high enough, slow enough and short enough so that Maximum Spider is easier to follow up after it. It is possible that you can do more stuff after it

- Due to changes on Web Ball property after catching opponent (no more neutral teching only) it is very difficult or impossible to do the infamous UWT reset with Spider Man now

- Web Throw does not cause fully unscaled damage anymore meaning combos involving Web Throws do significantly less damage overall



He claims that you can air tech out of Web Balls so you can't go for the same resets after it. Web Throw combos do significantly less damage now and he said he didn't try out Web Throw loops.

I think Spider Man deserves some testing in the preview build too most notably his options after his air throw (can he do Web Zip into MS after an air throw).

And I have run into a slight problem. I have reached the character limit on a single post in the changelog. I can't add anything to the changelog without removing some stuff before hand.
 
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I <3 you guys so much!

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Dahbomb said:
And I have run into a slight problem. I have reached the character limit on a single post in the changelog. I can't add anything to the changelog without removing some stuff before hand.
You've got an alphabetical list as far as I can tell. Get to the 25th character and cut out everything past that character. Make two posts out of it instead of one and have them both posted in the OP.

There should be more than enough room for future updates then.
 
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By the way, Wesker took 13 st.S to go from 0 to 1 bar of meter, if that means anything to anyone.
I just tested this and Wesker takes 10 st.S to go from 0 to 1 meter. This confirms another one of my suspicions in the game engine that meter gain has been nerfed.

That's a 30% reduction in meter gain on combos (assuming of course j.S of Wesker does the damage as before). I really think we need to go back and check the damage on Wesker's j.S in UMVC3 (shouldn't be hard now) because this is a HUGE change in the game that we can document.

You've got an alphabetical list as far as I can tell. Get to the 25th character and cut out everything past that character. Make two posts out of it instead of one and have them both posted in the OP.

There should be more than enough room for future updates then.
Yeah I was thinking about something like that.
 
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GatorBait said:
shaowebb:

Don't know if you read it (I think it was in the Marvel blog on Iron Fist alt colors), but the reason why they went with the collared look versus Iron Fist's new look is because Capcom requested it.

o_O???
...
the fuck Capcom?

Is this a Tatsunoko love thing?
 

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Jintor said:
By the way, Wesker took 13 st.S to go from 0 to 1 bar of meter, if that means anything to anyone.
Dahbomb said:
I just tested this and Wesker takes 10 st.S to go from 0 to 1 meter. This confirms another one of my suspicions in the game engine that meter gain has been nerfed.

That's a 30% reduction in meter gain on combos (assuming of course j.S of Wesker does the damage as before). I really think we need to go back and check the damage on Wesker's j.S in UMVC3 (shouldn't be hard now) because this is a HUGE change in the game that we can document.
I don't know if the bolded is a safe assumption. For reference: In MvC3, 1 million points of unscaled damage equals one bar of meter for the attacker and 70% of one bar for the defender. Wesker's s.S does 100K in MvC3 and gains 10% of one bar. Can't really tell if it was a change to damage or a change to meter gain.

enzo_gt said:
How do you mash on a gamepad without activating X-Factor?
With the thumb across XYZ. Or just the right trigger if that works.
 
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I don't know if the bolded is a safe assumption. For reference: In MvC3, 1 million points of unscaled damage equals one bar of meter for the attacker and 70% of one bar for the defender. Wesker's s.S does 100K in MvC3 and gains 10% of one bar. Can't really tell if it was a change to damage or a change to meter gain.
Yes that's why I made sure I put it in parenthesis. All of your figures are factual and I have confirmed it myself too but the fact that it now takes 13 j.S to build 1 bar means either j.S got a damage reduction OR meter building has been changed up. A 30% decrease in meter gain from before would be ideal for this game IMO (and the one being attacked reduced to 50% gain on hit). And just so we are on the same page, if it takes Wesker 13 j.S to get 1 meter and we are assuming that meter gain is UNCHANGED... his damage on j.S would be around 75-76K.

First order of business for tomorrow should be checking damage on Wesker's j.S against Ghost Rider (a 1 million health character). If it takes 10 j.S to kill him and builds less than a bar, meter gain has been changed. If it takes more than 10 j.S to kill him and upon killing him it builds a bar... j.S has been reduced in damage.

If it's confirmed that meter has been changed we can go ahead with the percentage and check some other known quantity like Ryu's Hadouken. We would probably have to check meter gain on getting hit and blocked as well.
 
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If you cats have another way to test meter I can roll that too, because this meter change thing is big. It makes the aerial exchange combos, the meter drain, and the meter building moves a lot more important.
 
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Testing meter gain is fairly simple. Just set it to Wesker vs Ghost Rider. Count how many st.S it takes to kill him and how much meter is gained in the process. We have the data on vanilla MVC3 to compare so we should have a conclusion with one simple test.
 
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Dahbomb said:
Testing meter gain is fairly simple. Just set it to Wesker vs Ghost Rider. Count how many st.S it takes to kill him and how much meter is gained in the process. We have the data on vanilla MVC3 to compare so we should have a conclusion with one simple test.
10 hits of st.S to kill Ghost Rider. Bar is approx 80% full or so. The Ghost Rider player's meter bar is about half full.

/edit was Wolverine's hypers mashable before? His charge hyper got 17 hits non-mashing and 37 hits mashing.

Hadouken = 25 hits non-mashing, 43 hits mashing.
 
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Jintor said:
10 hits of st.S to kill Ghost Rider. Bar is approx 80% full or so. The Ghost Rider player's meter bar is about half full.
That's the confirmation I needed.

Damage on Wesker's st.S the same but meter gain has been changed. Ghost Rider should've been at 70% full bar and Wesker at 100%. Now it's looking more like 75% and 50%.

Again I repeat... it appears that meter gain on combos has been altered in UMVC3.

On damage inflicted point character receives 75%-80% of damage in meter (if 1 bar = 1 million)
On damage received, character receives 50% of damage in meter

This is toned down from 100% on hit and 70% on being hit.


Did we check if Chun Li's Kikosho hyper OTGs?


was Wolverine's hypers mashable before? His charge hyper got 17 hits non-mashing and 37 hits mashing.

Hadouken = 25 hits non-mashing, 43 hits mashing.
You talking about Berserker Barrage? No it was not mashable.

Another thing to add to the list.
 
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I'm guessing each character probably has at least one mashable super now. Would you mind testing Spencer's Bionic Lancer and Bionic Manuevers? I can't see Bionic Lancer being mashable since it's one hit, but Bionic Manuevers being mashable sounds... odd as well.
 
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1) His Demon Flip moves (Reverse Dragon Punch + Att). He should be able to do them in the air just need a final confirmation on that.

2) There has been rumors that he has his Demon Flip command throw (like in SF4). It might be Demon flip add S, maybe who knows.

3) Speed change on his teleport (this one you have to guess)

4) Anything unusual about him that you note

5) Check his health he is confirmed to have a health nerf. Probably 750K but his health in MVC3 was 800K. Work your magic.
 
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Ammy's Okami Shuffle super does not appear to be mashable.

Whatever Ghost Rider's qcf+2atk hyper is mashable.

Chun-Li's giant ball hyper does not hit OTG, but it is mashable - 14 hits v 27 mashed hits.
 
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Jintor said:
10 hits of st.S to kill Ghost Rider. Bar is approx 80% full or so. The Ghost Rider player's meter bar is about half full.

/edit was Wolverine's hypers mashable before? His charge hyper got 17 hits non-mashing and 37 hits mashing.

Hadouken = 25 hits non-mashing, 43 hits mashing.
Sorry, I should have clarified: I was curious how little you could mash and still get the max number of hits.
 
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Yeah I have completely run out of space for the changelog. I am going to be splitting up the changelog in two posts now. Going to be posting the whole thing here in a bit to be saved. PLEASE UPDATE OP WITH NEW LINKS.
 
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Jintor said:
Chun-Li's giant ball hyper does not hit OTG, but it is mashable - 14 hits v 27 mashed hits.
Can't say I'm surprised. Disappointed, but not surprised. Hmm... could you check if Kikoanken(half-circle forward + H then another H before the projectile comes out. You'll know if you did it right because it creates a small explosion) OTGs? Maybe her DP?
 
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ULTIMATE MARVEL VS CAPCOM 3 BALANCE CHANGES DISCOVERED/SUSPECTED THUS FAR

Read changes as:
+ = Buff
- = Nerf
+/- = A change in mechanics that can be either a buff or a nerf and needs more experimentation to determine which it is

General Changes

X-Factor:
X-Factor is now usable in the air, which means aerial hyper combos are now X-Factor-able, you can instantly recover after breaking a Aerial Exchange, you can cancel aerial blockstun, survive chip damage on an incoming character at low health, etc.

X-Factor damage and speed boosts are now standardized; all characters receive the same boost when activating X-Factor. Characters which did not receive a speed boost in MvC3, such as Hulk and Amaterasu, will now receive one. However, characters with such extreme power boosts, such as Sentinel, are now toned down. X-Factor still scales up based on the number of remaining characters on your team, but it appears as though X-Factor one boosts are either very minimal or non-existent now.

While damage and speed boosts are standardized, time in X Factor is not standardized. Some characters have longer X Factor than others.


Team Aerial Combos (TACs):

In MvC3, an upward TAC provided a damage boost, a sideways TAC provided half a bar of meter, and a downward TAC provided a full bar of meter. In UMvC3, upward TACs appear to be unchanged, sideways TACs now drain a bar of meter from your opponent, and downward TACs provide meter.

New to TACs now is a color-identification system. When a TAC takes place, the character being hit will briefly flash one of three colors: red (up), green (side), or blue (down). The flashed color is an indication of which direction the TAC was made, making TAC counters based more on reaction time than luck. Several players have also reported that TAC counter time is longer than in MvC3 in accompaniment with this change.

Whether hitstun scaling is negated post-TAC until your incoming character touches the ground is unknown, but several post-TAC combos which work in MvC3 were seen dropping on-screen, such as Sentinel's Rocket Punch series. This may have been due to execution errors or changes in attack frames, however.


Meter Gain

Through some testing of the preview builds of UMVC3, it appears that overall meter gain has been reduced. Overall the same moves/attacks in MVC3 now give 75-80% meter of vanilla MVC3 and on hit you receive around 50% meter gained from the damage that is inflicted. Essentially on damage inflicted, the player receives around 75-80% of meter off of 1 bar (when 1 million damage is inflicted non-scaled) and on damage received, the player receives around 50% of meter off of 1 bar.


DHC Glitch/TAC Glitch/Infinites


A host of glitches have been removed in UMVC3 especially the infamous DHC glitch as well as the numerous TAC glitches. More glitches and infinites are also removed from the game if they were previous discovered. Furthermore a lot of characters have received tweaks to hit stun deterioration and in general long combos appear to be more difficult to
do especially OTG pick up time frame.

Mashable Moves/Hypers


Just about every character in the game has a mashable move or hyper of some sort. Mashing allows it to do more damage. Basically, unmashed the hyper does half of it's original damage but with full mash it does it's full damage. Fully mashed hyper do damage equivalent to the same hyper in MVC3.

Air Throw Scaling

Damage off of air throw is significantly reduced in the game due to heavier scaling.


Raw Tag Ins

Raw tag ins of characters don't hit over head now meaning they are much easier to block and punish now.


Snap Back

Snap Backs function the same as in MVC3 however they are not 1 frame moves anymore. The reason for this is that in the original MVC3 Snapbacks could be used to counter an X Factor guard cancel punish essentially making that attempt to retaliate useless. Snap backs most likely can't be used for this purpose anymore and players need specific snap back combos now.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v_fhnj3RDf0&feature=player_embedded <-- Video explained the Snap back vs X Factor Guard cancel technology



CHARACTER SPECIFIC CHANGES


Akuma

+ Akuma is able to use Demon Flip and moves in the air now. Akuma can use his ground bounce demon flip in an aerial combo and then follow it up with a relaunch fairly easily

+ Teleport seems slightly better but no real confirmation on this (?)

+ Air Fireball hyper can be mashed for more damage/hits

- Tatsu Assist is no longer a soft knockdown, so it's a bit more difficult to extend combos with it

- Does not have a light Tatsu infinite in LVL3 XF anymore

- Slight health nerf to 750K


Amaterasu

+ Cold star appear to be faster when on point and as an assist

+ Can switch weapons in the air now

+ Counter/Reflecters come out faster

+ Air sword charges faster (?)

- Amaterasu is unable to block out of the entirety of her air dash

- Can no longer do instant overhead with jumping L canceled into Down-Forward + H in Glaive stance


Arthur

+ Increased health to 850K for normal Arthur with a corresponding increase in health for his other forms as well

+ J.S drops him downward more quickly for easier OTG after air combo
*His j.S diving down isn't just good for relaunches, it helps him combo in general, since against some characters, he does have to rush

+ Arthur's Boomerang/Scythe attacks as well as other Arthur projectiles have much better start up now and are much better for their "get off me" purposes. They also have better recovery

+ Range on Scythe seems to have been increased

+ Gold Armor lasts around 5 seconds longer


C. Viper

+ New move described as a laser coming from C. Viper's eye (like Optic Blast). Has to be charged with the attack buttons like Zero's Mega Buster. Can only be released on the ground. It's super cancellable.

- It's possible her infinite from MVC3 is removed but it's not confirmed yet



Captain America

+ Shield Slash specials are faster and possibly pull the character in more on hit

+ L Shield Slash now hits OTG and it is possible to combo a hyper after it or relaunch.

+ Has a Double jump now

+ Captain America overall is a faster character (?)

+ M/H versions of Charging Star now cause Soft Knockdown

+ Captain America's Back Flip/Cartwheel move has start up invulnerable frames now

+ Hyper Charging Star can be mashed for more hits/damage


Chris Redfield

+ Chris can now cancel out of his gun attacks by doing another special move. f+M, cr. H and j.d+H are all special cancellable. An example is that Chris can OTG cr.H into Magnum easily.

+ Chris has a proper wave dash now.

+ H Grenade fire puddle seems to last longer/pops the enemy up more

+ Has faster start up/recovery on his specials including his Flamethrower


Chun-Li

+ Appears to do overall more damage in combos

+ Chun-Li appears to be no longer vulnerable after doing her up kicks in the air (?)

+ Chun-Li has a new attack which is a different version of her Spinning Bird Kick. It's instant and appears to have invincibility similar to her EX SBK in SF4 but it has to be charged. Has 3 different versions with L, M, H

+ Kikosho hyper can be mashed for more damage


Dante

- Dante overall appears to do less damage/meter building in his lengthy combos.

- st.L jab has a smaller hit box meaning it's not as effective as an anti-air (still good for that purpose but not as godly as before)

- st.H hit box nerfed. Less vertical range

- Smaller hit box on QCF+L Killer Bee Dive kick

- Hit stun scaling has been changed a bit for Dante which has affected some of his combos. Some of his more advance combos have stricter timing to them and less time to perform OTG follow ups. There are numerous examples cited but it was getting out of hand so I am just making a general statement here.

- Hammer no longer invincible on start up

+ During Devil Trigger, Dante gains Triple Jump and Double Air Dash.

+ Input on moves for Dante involving Rekkha like motions (like Dante's Hammer which was QCF+L~QCF+L) are just simply changed to a double tap (so new Hammer input would be QCF+L ~ L). So far this has been noticed for Acid Rain, Hammer and Beehive. It is suspected that this is an across the board chance for Dante and this makes some of his specials have faster start up times like Hammer.

+ Million Dollar Jackpot can be mashed for more damage/hits


Deadpool

+ Quick Work: The distance/range/speed of this attack is said to have been increased.

+ Supposedly faster specials and Ninja gifts (?)

+ Guns have less recovery time/better start ups

+ Deadpool can now cancel special moves into his Teleport which include Quick Work and Trigger Happy

- Bolo Loop is removed


Dormammu

+ His zoning specials have become better in speed and recovery including Dark Hole and Purification.

+ Dark Matter (f+H) can be special canceled into Mass Change (his teleports) and Dark Spells now. In fact, Dark Matter can pretty much be special canceled into any of Dormammu's special moves.

+ Dark Dimension has a larger hitbox. No longer passes under bouncing opponents.

+ Increased distance on backdash

+ Ground dash is significantly faster

+ Ground throw now causes a hard knockdown

+ Dormammu can now chain his cr.M into cr.H

+ Can charge Dark Spells while airborne. Can only charge one at a time and is vulnerable until he lands. He stops in the air when performing this special, in the same manner as Dark Hole.
Liberation in the air causes him to teleport to the ground and then perform the release.

+ Can attack out of down-back airdash. Most likely up-back too.

+ Chaotic Flame hyper can be mashed for more hits/damage

- Reduced hitstun on cr.M

- Dorm puts Flame Carpet slightly further out & hitbox change(?). Can cause OTG to hit once and knock people away mid-screen. Causes corner Flame Carpets to hit once on some characters because of the distance it's laid out. Flame Carpet also disappears when Dorm is hit.


Dr. Doom

+ Doom is generally a faster character now especially on his dashes

+ Overall, Doom's projectiles (Photon Shots) are faster now along with j.H laser beam.

+ Doom's forward throw causes a hard knockdown now

+ Air S moves faster vertically

+ Air S causes an exaggerated bounce in an anti-air situation but is not a true ground bounce (too low for it). Enough time to OTG after it into a full combo. Can be canceled into Flight and go into Doom's M&M combos, either from a Jump or Super Jump state.

+ Doctor Doom's Photon Array hyper does more damage/hits when mashing



Felicia

+ Rolling Buckler no longer bounces off your opponent on block, increasing her pressure game by giving her another way to close the distance

+ Can use Delta Kick in the air now

+ Delta Kick in the air causes Ground bounce when used as part of an air magic series.

- Toy Touch now causes less hitstun decay, making the cancel into Dancing Flash more difficult


Haggar

- Lariat assist no longer causes Hardknockdown (it causes Soft knockdown). Still causes hard knockdown as a point move

- Double Lariat assist is now vulnerable during startup for around 2 frames. It still beats just about anything but it's not going to go through a beam hyper for example

+ cr.H now hits OTG or it knocks down

+ Haggars f+H now causes bounce rather than huge hitstun. Apparently not a true ground bounce (?)

+ Has some frames of start up invincibility or super armor on his Rapid Machine gun punch hyper



Hsien-Ko

+ Chiretou seems to have faster start up. No specific timing after an air combo was needed for this hyper to connect. It can be mashed for more additional hits and damage.

+ Gongs come out slightly faster.

+ f+M AND f+H normals are now jump cancellable

+ Appears to do slightly more damage due to less hit deterioration from her previously multi-hitting normals (some of them still have multi-hitting properties)

+ General hit stun changes allowing her to do easier combos in the corner involving cr.H, f+H, M Henkyo ki for 3 reps on opponents.

+ Grounded Henkyo Ki recovery is faster

+/- She has new projectiles from Anki-Hou:

* Oil drum(the wooden log everyone thought it was). Supposedly has high projectile durability points but given the randomness of items, it's hard to test this out.
* Hunk of meat. nothing special at least from what I saw.
* Samurai Doll/Cat doll. Causes stagger.
* Chris's stun rod. Also staggers with an electric effect.
* Snowman. Freezes opponent, rather, it just has an ice effect similar to Ammy's Cold Star. It doesn't actually freeze you ala Chris's grenade launcher hyper.


Hulk

+ St.H has 3 points of super armor now

+ Has a new charge move now where he charges up a straight punch (essentially charging his st.M) which has some super armor and causes wall bounce on impact. Can follow up after an OTG move/assist. Does damage on block and can be cancelled out of while charging.

+ Gamma Quake rocks fall faster, and the punch he does to cause them to be in a ground bounce-like state. (?) Can be mashed for more hits/damage



Iron Man

+ Iron Mans UniBeam is faster and recovers faster, spammable while on the ground. Both as an assist and as a point character. In the air, his beams most notably his L Unibeam is pretty much the same speed as before

+ Ground dash moves him at least 1/2 screen across. Before it moved him about 1/3rd distance. Possibly Iron Man can do a proper wave dash now.

+ Repulsor Blast/Spread activate faster. Upon hit Repulsor Spread causes a hard knockdown and it can be followed up afterward with Smart Bomb -> Proton Cannon

+ Iron Man can now cancel his normals into dashes in the air like Magneto allowing him to perform new flight/dash cancel combos

+ Even faster flight cancel

+ Iron Man's cr.H is now SPECIAL CANCELLABLE. Can even be canceled into flight mode. Iron Man can also now chain cr.H into launcher making his ground series much easier to executure

+ Proton Cannon hyper can be mashed for more damage/hits

- Triangle jump/air dash mechanics reworked. Seem to have different trajectories and acceleration. Possibly different types of dashes. In any case most players seem to agree that Iron Man's tri-jump game has been significantly nerfed because of this change due to the general speed of it is greatly reduced.

- Removal of double jump


Jill Valentine


NOTHING TO REPORT


M.O.D.O.K.

+ MODOK can cancel moves in the air with a dash

+ MODOK has new abilities allowing him to drain meter
 
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ULTIMATE MARVEL VS CAPCOM 3 CHANGELOG PART 2


Magneto

+ New move Gravitation/Repulsion that modifies your momentum anywhere on the screen (similar to the wind effect from Storm, or like Rachel's Wind Drive in Blazblue). Can pull you forward, push you back, or force you to stay more-or-less stationary. HUGE buff, due to the free nasty mixups on people jumping in. Pull them closer so they accidentally cross you up

- Air dash reduced in range, and reduced in speed. Slightly affects some ROM midscreen combos of Magneto. Triangle jumps overall appear to be slightly slower.

- J.H pushes enemies away more and combined with the dash range reduction, combos are harder to do. He still has access to his Grav loop in the corner but you get less repetitions out of them. Other fly cancel/air dash loops like the Magnetic Blast loops aren't as reliable or just may not be possible anymore.

- Disrupter start up slowed down and is generally slower but still a dominant projectile

- Throw trap time decreased slightly

+ Magnetic Tempest can be mashed for more damage/hits


Morrigan

+ Does more damage on combos due to her base damage being increased

+ Flight cancel combos appear to be more reliable/useful

+ New meter sucking fireball QCF+S that steals about 1/3rd of the opponents meter. The fireball itself has very slow start up though so it's difficult to use it in combos

+ Astral Vision is much faster on startup. She can use her new meter sucking move during Astral Vision and the clone DOES steal meter in this mode.

+ Finishing Shower has faster startup, faster missile travel speed, and you can control their trajectory much more than before. For example, in MvC3, if you hold up after using Finishing Shower, the trajectory will "slant" up a bit, and the whole thing is pretty minor. In UMvC3, a player can curve the missiles upward to the top half of the screen and then swerve them back down to the bottom against a crouching opponent. They may even be able to reach superjump heights now. Finishing Shower is also mashable for more damage/hits

+ The minimum height/frames for her airdashes has been decreased which allows for better rushdown and mixup opportunities at close range. Boosts her overall mobility a bit as well since she has more opportunities to dash in general.


Phoenix

- Only one action per jump. No more multiple fireballs, no more fireball into teleport.
*You can do 2 actions per flight mode as it is now longer. You can do Air H Shot into Teleport if you went flight mode first but there is longer start up on H Shots.

- Air H Shot has longer start up and slower recovery. Air M Shot is pretty much the same. Air L Shot has faster recovery.

- Slight reduction in health (like 420K to 375K after testing... Magneto's LVL3 which is exactly 400K kills Phoenix at full health)

- TK Shots dissipate when Phoenix herself is hit


Ryu

+ Ryu now has a "buff" super (d, d+ two attacks) that enhances everything he does in terms of properties and gives him a bit of a speed boost. This was seen in the UMVC3 trailer, when his Hurricane Hyper looked like a level 3 - its because of this buff. This buff also enhances his hadoken, which is best noticed in his Hadoken assist. It gets ridiculous Projectile Durability, and it seems harder to knock Ryu out of it. It also allows his Shinkuu Hadouken to bounce off of walls and his Shinkuu Shoryuken LVL3 hyper does more damage in this mode. Overall, it makes him a much more threatening character. The buffs persist on tag out. Hypers can be mashed for more damage.

+ Ryu's New Hadoken and Shoryuken can be charged for additional effects (QCF+S, DP+S), such as making Hadoken so fast it's invisible and causing wall bounce. Can be used in the air. At low charges it just dissipates at a distance, at medium charge it causes a hard knock down and at full charge it causes an invisible fireball launch with explosion and wall bounce.

+ Ryu has a variation to his new fireball if you mash it (QCF+S Mash). The QCF+S is just a generic fireball that doesn't even reach full screen but when you mash it you get a bunch of those fireballs on the screen.

+ His new Shoryuken has better anti-properties and fires off a projectile vertically up after the SRK (sort of like Cyclops' anti-air move). The motion is DP+S and mash buttons. It launches them above launcher height even.

+ Ryu can cancel his overhead into specials now. He can finally combo his overhead into a launcher.

+ Ryu's movement on the ground and dashes have been improved allowing him to do a proper wave dash now. Better speed and recovery allow for easier follows up after a wall bounce.



Sentinel

+ Cr.M now has 3 hits of super armor. Launcher has hyper armor.

+ Rocket punches and overall speed of Sentinel has been increased. Sentinel's cr.M recovers faster (he pulls his boots back in faster)

+ Sentinel drones have been sped up. They are now a true block string.

+ Plasma Storm hyper can be mashed for more damage

- Air combo into L Rocket Punch into HSF is less reliable. He can still do qcf.L into HSF after throws or if the combo is short and he can still TK rocket punch into Hard Drive after a hard knockdown

- Health rounded off to 900K


She-Hulk

+ New lampost projectile move that causes wall bounce on impact. Has considerable start up and recovery but it can be canceled into Runner stance for follow up options

+ She Hulk's Taking out the Trash has quite a lot of invincibility frames now

+ Emerald Cannon now makes her jump forward a bit on the dropkick AND has a few hits of armor. Easier to connect after a DHC

- Slide now covers less distance

- She Hulk is unable to chain numerous cr.L in order to hit confirm into a full combo


Shuma-Gorath

+ Grab now absorbs/steals Meter


Spencer


+ New OTG Dive bomb move "Death from Above" that Spencer can combo after connecting



Spiderman


+ Spider-Man's webs travel faster which includes his Web Balls and his Web Zips

+ The Web Ball, Web Swing and Spider-Sting (all of his specials essentially) can be canceled into Web Zips

+ Crawler assault, button mashing during this does more damage now

+ Spider Man's Web Zip is now able to hit OTG and you can go into Maximum Spider after it. There is possibility of more follows up now for Spider Man in an OTG situation

+ Web Throw tosses opponents high enough, slow enough and short enough so that Maximum Spider is easier to follow up after it. It is possible that you can do more stuff after it

- Due to changes on Web Ball property after catching opponent (no more neutral teching only) it is very difficult or impossible to do the infamous UWT reset with Spider Man now

- Web Throw does not cause fully unscaled damage anymore


Storm

+ New Move: DP+S = Fair Wind, pushes opponent away
New Move: RDP+S = Foul Wind, pulls opponent towards her

Storm's Winds have better distance coverage than Magneto's (she pushes/pulls more than him) but overall slower. These moves also affect opponents when they are downed

+ Appears to do better damage overall

+ Hailstorm covers more space on the screen making it harder for opponents to jump over it. Hailstorm can be mashed for more damage/hits

+/- Changes to her normals/jump loop combos. Seem to have better overall normals with altered jump loop combos. (?)

- Cannot call assists while floating from super jump. She can still call assists while floating if done after a normal jump


Super Skrull

+ Meteor Smash is doable from the air now

+ LVL3 causes massive stagger, allowing you to combo after it (?)

+ Stone Smite now has at least one hit of armor when the move (non-charging version) goes off

+ Inferno can be mashed for more hits/damage

- Orbital Grudge assist does not cause soft knockdown anymore (works like how Akuma's Tatsu in Ultimate)


Taskmaster

+ New Move: Stab n Grab can be linked after Shield Charge

+ Shield Charge has its distance increased

- Taskmaster has difficulty doing long combos involving self relaunches after OTG arrows

- Generally speaking, Taskmaster does less damage overall in combos and finishers involving his Legion arrow hypers


Thor


+ Range on air Mighty Hurricane command throw increased. Range on all Mighty Hurricane (ground versions) are increased as well. Karas into the command throws are easier apparently.

+ Thor's Mighty Spark projectiles have faster start ups. Not only that but the hit box underneath Mjolnir is bigger and hits smaller characters now. Active hit box on the spark on L Mighty Spark is longer making jump ins risky for opponents

+ Grounded A Mighty Strike has less recovery/more hit stun, giving you enough time to follow up after it with a combo

+ Cr.L appears to be faster on start up

+ Thor has a new move which is a variation of Might Spark. It arcs out and upwards to hit the opponent on their head (?)

+ Mighty Tornado hyper can be mashed for more hits/damage


Trish

+ Recovery on air and ground Hopscotches reduced

+ Recovery on air and ground Peakaboo reduced

+ Peakaboo assist comes out faster

+ Low Voltage projectiles have faster start ups

+ Air Hyper Maximum Voltage now hits OTG

+ Maximum Voltage can be mashed for more hits/damage

- Dive Kick appears to be slower (?)


Tron Bonne

+/- Tron Gustaff Fire assist has been nerfed, it is now vulnerable on start up. However on point, it is now bufferable so it has been slightly buffed as a point move so you can go into a launcher after it.

- Tron's j.H knocks away making it difficult to hit confirm into a combo. You can still follow it up with a combo if you do Bonne Strike (Drill Rush) after it.

+ Trons Bonne Strike has quicker recovery

+ Servebot projectiles come out much faster now. She can chain them together so fast that the models seem to overlap

+ Tron can cancel out of Bandit Boulder on her own, means she can combo out of throws and relaunch solo

+ King Servebot hyper can be mashed for more hits/damage


Viewtiful Joe

+ New Dodge move is full invincibility, but has vulnerability on recovery, hence canceling it into Mach Speed in the trailer. This move can also be canceled into his special moves like his Groovy Uppercut.

+ Base damage of Viewtiful Joe has been increased and the increased damage is seen in his specials too

+ Mach Speed hyper can be mashed for more damage/hits

+ Move that Wall bounces opponent (?)

+ DHCing out of Godhand keeps the slow status inflict (?)

+ Possibly better range on j.S (?)


Wesker

- At least 100K health reduction

- Appears to have slower teleports when glasses are on

- Backwards air throw pushes the opponent all the way to the corner making it harder to follow up

- Gun Shot when used as an anti-air doesn't float the enemy on hit as much, is slower or just simply causes less hit stun which makes follow ups difficult. The XF Gun loop is also removed as are many combos involving Gun shots in general.

+ When Wesker takes damage his sunglasses also take damage, making Wesker angrier and more lethal. There are two phase to this:

Sun Glasses Cracked = +105% speed +110% damage

Sun Glasses Broken completely = +110% speed +115% damage

Glasses reset to normal after a hyper (Phantom Dance) or tag out

+ Phantom Dance does more damage/hits when mashed


Wolverine

- Berserker Slash is slower on start up, lost invincibility frames

- Seems slower overall perhaps to make Berserker Charge more balanced overall (?)

- The Dive Kick has a much smaller hit box, some launchers/anti-air moves beat it out cleanly now

- Contrary to popular belief, Wolverine can still relaunch after a Dive Kick in the air combo the ground bounce may just not work if a dive kick stagger was used to start the initial combo

+/- Some sort of button-mashy Swiss cheese move. He can combo after it with a launcher

+ Berserker Barrage hyper is mashable for more damage/hits


X-23

+ OTG slash seems to have a slightly larger window, making OTG + assists easier

+ X-23 Weapon X Prime hyper has faster start up enough so that X-23 can do solo OTG into Weapon X Prime. Rage Trigger hyper also appears to have better start up

+ X-23 can now cancel out of her Crescent Scythe attack into her Talon Attacks

+ Rage Trigger hyper can be mashed for more damage/hits


Zero

+ Zero can cancel ALL his special moves into LVL3 Buster now. A major overall buff to his game plan

+ Can charge his Buster before the fight even starts

+ Sentsuizan (air QCF+H the dive move) has more range/better hit box now, can be used for ambiguous crossups and easier relaunches with assists(rarely need to dash in anymore). With 2 Sentsuizan.H, it covers approximately half screen now

+ Because Zero can cancel his Sentsuizan into Buster LVL3, he can self-OTG using Sentsuizan>Buster

+ Health upped from 800K to 825K

- Zero's lv.3 Buster causes soft knockdown now (was hard knockdown before)

- LVL3 Buster drops them down much quicker (instead of the long float before) which means you need to do Raikousen.L or Hienkyaku.L INSTANTLY to follow up

- Shippuga loop, can only do one repetition before the character drops out. cr.M, cr.H, f+H, L, M, H, f+H is all that can be done. Launching after this combo mid-screen tends to be inconsistent, as soon as you press the first j.m the opponent goes behind Zero, making the combo impossible. Unless you're in the corner, you'll be dropping it all over the place.

- Sogenmu D-Loop is removed, as the moves come out quicker, doesn't OTG>Launch anymore

- Lightning Loop removed/made redundant

- Command dashes/teleports appear to be a bit slower (although not really a problem because he can cancel his command dashes into Buster)
 
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Dahbomb said:
1) His Demon Flip moves (Reverse Dragon Punch + Att). He should be able to do them in the air just need a final confirmation on that.

2) There has been rumors that he has his Demon Flip command throw (like in SF4). It might be Demon flip add S, maybe who knows.

3) Speed change on his teleport (this one you have to guess)

4) Anything unusual about him that you note

5) Check his health he is confirmed to have a health nerf. Probably 750K but his health in MVC3 was 800K. Work your magic.
1) He can definitely do Demon Flip moves in-air.

2) If there is a Demon Flip command throw, I can't find it. Tried mid-flip S, mid-flip qcf l/m/h, mid-flip qcb l/m/h, etc.

3) I don't believe his teleport is any faster or slower.

4) I got nothin'.

5) 750k health.

Also, his fireball hyper is mashable.
 
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Frantic said:
Can't say I'm surprised. Disappointed, but not surprised. Hmm... could you check if Kikoanken(half-circle forward + H then another H before the projectile comes out. You'll know if you did it right because it creates a small explosion) OTGs? Maybe her DP?
Kikoanken does not work. Neither does her Tenshokyaku.
 
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I think we should would get these simple Dormammu questions out of the way. I browsed the last few pages and couldn't come up with any solid questions so while you work on these I will come up with some of my own in a bit:
Jintor, things I would like for you to check for me sir for Dormammu:
1) Does c.L, c.M hit against a crouch-blocking and a crouch-not-blocking Amaterasu?
2) Can you cancel Dark Matter (f.H) into hypers?
3) What is Dormammu's health?
4) Can you jump-cancel a c.M (hitting or blocking)?
5) Can you chain c.M into Dark Matter (f.H)?
Oh yeah that's right... Super Skrull. M Tenderizer does last hit cause wall bounce?
 
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o_O???
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the fuck Capcom?

Is this a Tatsunoko love thing?
Mista Koo said:
I think Iron Fist's other costume looks almost identical to Phoenix', even the exact same main colors.
This was my initial guess on why they went with the collared look too. Capcom probably thought the other costume was a little more "Bruce Lee" as well, which I assume they really wanted to hammer home with Iron Fist's character.

I just find it interesting that Marvel didn't override Capcom's request.
 
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1) Does c.L, c.M hit against a crouch-blocking and a crouch-not-blocking Amaterasu?
2) Can you cancel Dark Matter (f.H) into hypers?
3) What is Dormammu's health?
4) Can you jump-cancel a c.M (hitting or blocking)?
5) Can you chain c.M into Dark Matter (f.H)?
1) c.L and c.M do not work against a crouch-blocking Ammy. c.L and c.M work against a crouching Ammy.

2) It appears not. Obviously, you can hyper immediately after it, but you can't cancel into them.

3) 1,000,000hp.

4) No!

5) Yes!

I think I might head off, unless you have pressing questions. It's been a long day, full of testing.
 
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