Samurai G0SU
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Uncharted 4 multiplayer will run at 900p / 60fps
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You can lower complexity or the amount of the effect it is that easy. If people code in a bad way that the game can't scale that is on them. Plenty of big developers make great scaling games that can handle a variety of resolution or fps targets on the same spec.
Dee Dah Dave
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Them super powers though..........yuck.
gundamkyoukai
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Why are you comparing SP cut scene to MP .
SP drake \gfx looks time better than the MP one which is normal .
Since they drop this to 900p i really hope it's 60fps most of the time and don't drop as bad as some other games.
Because he's comparing what they said they had running at 60fps and what they have now running at 60fps?
Because the reveal runs at 60 fps but current sp not.
GhostTrick
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I think that is his point. First unveiled as in-engine, therefore nearly ingame graphics, at 1080p and 60fps to see a big drop in the graphical fidelity (expected for MP) and resolution (less expected though). And while SP kinda maintain a high graphical fidelity, it is at the expense of framerate.
Familienoberhauptvogel
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See even Sony calls it a slight difference 
Primethius
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That's a stupid comparison tbh. The game has been downgraded for sure in terms of framerate. But comparing an in-engine face model with a multiplayer model?
That's actually ridiculous.
That's actually ridiculous.
StrongBlackVine
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gundamkyoukai
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That still make no sense since one is gameplay and the other is a cut scene .
The first trailer was never gameplay .
The reveal was a single player cut scene .
Plus MP always will look worst than SP even at the same frame rate and res .
Framerate is king everywhere.
most people don't give a shit. This is the same excuse people give when 30fps vs 60fps debates come up, or resolution. CoD looks like dogshit and it was breaking it's own sales records that it set. Crysis 2 looks great, no one bought it on consoles. No one even bought the third.
even on PC where we're all graphics whores, the most popular games are ones that can be played on toasters.
Graphics are for fanboys that feel the need to tell other fanboys they spent their money wrong. It's not to sell systems.
PROJECTZERO
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Thank you.
why did you zoom drake?
the polycont is different when the character is close in every game ever
Pathfinder
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Matters not to me. It's Naughty Dog. It's still going to look fantastic.
What? The original reveal was captured on a PS4 system, and wasn't an in-engine muscle flex like the Star Wars Battlefront in-engine initial reveal.
Aceofspades
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I don't play multiplayer games, so I'm not affected by this drop in res. but I'm 100% sure ND knows what they are doing and end result will be amazing 
gaming_noob
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Looks like Sunset Overdrive with those colors and abilities.
gundamkyoukai
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No gameplay is king and 60fps can effect gameplay not always in good ways .
If 60 fps mean less physics , scale , enemies etc etc in my set pieces i don't want that .
Primethius
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They said it was in-engine at the time. He's literally using a "in-engine" comparison to a MP model.
That's beyond ridiculous in terms of comparisons.
The biggest downgrade to the game came in the form of 60 to 30 FPS.
Doesn't look like it's changing. Although with the facetious comments claiming bias, this has always been the case. I don't think Sony has invested in 60 FPS games. This is also ND's first NG title as well. Food for thought.
Fuck no.
Halo 5 looks like shit with that and its shitty LOD.
I'd rather a game running with set assets and consistently with a slightly lower resolution that the shit Halo 5 pulled off.
It's so bad you're forced to set your mind into a "well gameplay only matters" logic. And with that logic you might as well just design a decent, not ground breaking looking game to match your target. Instead of making it ground breaking and then scale it down to shame.
LOD loading in front of you is way worse than resolution being lower in terms of overall IQ. Unless you want to touch yourself on screenshots.
qa_engineer
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I can't believe I skipped my brain surgery for this.
Gameplay vs a Cut scene not comparable imo.
dgrdsv
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It didn't run at 60 fps. That's the exact reason why they're saying "we're targeting [some] fps" and not "the game will be running at 60 fps". Nothing is running at anything unless it's released.
ODDI
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Good lord, calm down buddy.
But that's... Exactly what it was. And it fooled SO many people. Go look at the threads.
That's not how it works though. Assets can be scaled downward. Like they have in this game. Multiplayer is always going to require more grunt as well. There is a reason why this and battlefield etc etc have had to scale down their resolution targets to meet their framerate requirements on these not so groundbreaking machines.
Assuming 900p gives them some 60fps breathing room why wouldn't a dynamic resolution work without affecting LOD and stuff? Maybe I don't know enough about how it works but I'm guessing the fact that their engine isn't currently designed to have dynamic resolution is their main reason for not using it.
Maintenance
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Fun Fact: Some people prefer 30 FPS with the fixings.
It isn't news that some people like inferior things.
.....no?
Primethius
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I have a 980Ti. I prefer 30 FPS for some games on consoles.
*shrugs*
Don't really understand the mentality of 60 FPS for everything.
Uhh, it's a fun MP, but if you don't have the DLC you'll absolutely be disadvantaged.
No Specter or Enforcer? No thanks.
gundamkyoukai
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Sometimes scaling down will not help even more so with these weak ass cpu in these consoles .
Dictator93
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"captured on a PS4" does not mean real time. The fact that they do not make that extremely necessary step to say "real time" is something that should cause eye brows to raise always IMO.
Pretty easy to see that if you watch the video. But it is multiplayer, so it is not exactly surprising.
BabyFaceKillah
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I'm cool wit it
7DollarHagane
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Its a shame, I like how clear 1080p is for multiplayer games. It helps with seeing targets and the environment better.
ND's MP has always had fairly significant cutbacks anyway. I'm glad those will be going towards 60 now instead of just looking worse at 30fps.
Mad Season
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Fps is more important
They did say real time. Heck I believe I posted a tweet from Corrine yu earlier in the thread. It isn't the first time pre release material is misleading though. 2013 was the year of many bullshits
HyperBitHero
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Would probably have to be other cut backs, btw love your vids
Except TLOU one, not cool man
Haha, yeah, and thanks!
I've been playing the Uncharted collection and I don't want to go back to 30fps! It just seems like a step back.