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[Marvel]

Amazing.

 

[Kinyou]

I think they are going for something a little more realistic. That last gif is ridiculous, who has short hair that soft?

That's just the tech demo setting, you can regulate how soft it is.

 

[pottuvoi]

Chest hair physics is true next gen

Only if it's properly simulated for wind and grooming fingers.

 

[adelante]

It does look like alpha blended planes, I am curious what they are using.

And btw, wait for everyone to hate on your second giff. It looking good threatens them somehow.

Too late. Heh

Anyway, them claiming Drake having much facial combination further reaffirms my assumption that they're sticking to key framing instead of facial capture (see Infamous SS, Ryse, Halo 4, and if I'm not mistaken, Order 1886). Would've preferred the later as it's easy to see for me to see the drawbacks of the method used by ND (having preset facial animations morph into each other. Granted, they have 800 preset animations now), especially since they already have character models of such high fidelity

 

[funkystudent]

So they still targeting 60fps or is dynamic chest hair at 30fps the way yo go?

 

[Garrett Hawke]

Too late. Heh

Anyway, them claiming Drake having much facial combination further reaffirms my assumption that they're sticking to key framing instead of facial capture (see Infamous SS, Ryse, Halo 4, and if I'm not mistaken, Order 1886). Would've preferred the later as it's easy to see for me to see the drawbacks of the method used by ND, especially since they already have character models of such high fidelity

Isn't TLoU's facial animation done by hand? Because that stuff is insanely good.

 

[Herr K]

Presented in amazing 30 FPS

 

[Squall5042]

Will be buying for next-gen chest hair.

 

[Horsemama1956]

Seems like a waste of resources? Who really cares about that? Especially in the third person shooter..

 

[pottuvoi]

So they still targeting 60fps or is dynamic chest hair at 30fps the way yo go?

No recent confirmation on subject.

 

[Nestunt]

people just react to much to this stuff

then dont complain in one year or more if things are different (when there has been some downgrade to benefit the overall experience of the game - memory limits everything)

no one should preorder games with so much time in advance with risk of things changing. Or do, but know your reasons and dont be naive

thats the way we teach publishers how to stop false advertising

 

[Always-honest]

And now i just want to see Elena...

 

[strafer]

is this panel available to view?

 

[Opus Angelorum]

And now i just want to see Elena...

See that hairy...

 

[b0bbyJ03]

I think everyone should download the 2.1gb direct feed video from gamersyde before talking about the graphics of the demo. I thought it looked really good when I was watching the streaming, but only when I watched it in good quality I realize the level of detail that they are putting into this game, it really is an amazing work by ND.

Also, you can see his hair getting wet in the close combat part of the gameplay, it's looking good.

How about people just stop looking for shit to hate and, u know, like, enjoy games.

 

[Callibretto]

I bet Lara Croft from Rise of the Tomb Raider won't have chest hair affected by physics!

she'll have leg hair instead and there will be waxing mini game as the intro

 

[Creaking]

And this is what i expect when I see "every single hair moves" and " true hair physics":

I just went into the bathroom and blowdried my hair. Apparently I don't have true hair physics

 

[adelante]

Isn't TLoU's facial animation done by hand? Because that stuff is insanely good.

Yep, it is. All the more impressive and testament to their talent, considering it's done that way (by hand, key framing. That, or computer generated thru audio and cleaning up with key framing). I just feel it would much better if it was done with a facial capture setup. Certain facial movements just feel fake, like the inertia of raising and dropping of Sam's eyebrows, lower lip for instance.

 

[Joeki11a]

This game has a full year of dev time still
Also that demo was probably old ass code to
by E3 it will blow this away


How about the fact its the first Uncharted?
remember how quality jumped from UC1 to
UC3?

 

[GribbleGrunger]

I do this in about 50% of threads related to tech talk, graphical fidelity and framerate. I do not care for Sony or any other manufacturer. I'm solely playing on PC as well right now, but my roots are on console and I love Uncharted.

You might want to try a less snidey approach.

 

[Unknown One]

Chest hair physics is the new boob physics.

 

[Opus Angelorum]

I just went into the bathroom and blowdried my hair. Apparently I don't have true hair physics

You balding?

 

[Hamlet]

Nate's looking good.

 

[martino]

Nothing about cloth physic ?
I didn't spot any in the demo gameplay and imo would a nice add (more noticeable than short hair physic most of the time)

 

[Gbraga]

Shirtless Drake is the hero we need.

 

[pottuvoi]

Chest hair physics is the new boob physics.

Perhaps they will combine them in the final form.

Nothing about cloth physic ?
I didn't spot any in the demo gameplay and imo would a nice add (more noticeable than short hair physic most of the time)

In the beginning of the demo you can see wind rippling the shirt.. might not be true physics, but it's better than what they had before.

 

[PLASTICA-MAN]

To everyone saying that the game won't evolve in the future lol: Uncharted 4: A Thief’s End Didn’t Look Like the PlayStation Experience Demo Just Three Weeks Ago:
http://goo.gl/ad9xZh

2 days ago I was talking about how UT4 is still using the old UE3 UT3 weapons models in the pre-alpha. Yesterday's update just brought some of the new weapons using the PBR materials (and shields are using it now too) and the novelties featured in 4.6 update like the emissive textures and we are still in the pre-alpha.

 

[pLow7]

Seriously this is a crazy Time we live, discussing Hair movement ( Also Chest-Hair )... I mean, it's nice and fancy looking, but do we really need it ? they're probably spending a lot of their ressources on this.

 

[Ace001]

And now i just want to see Elena...

I'd rather see Chloe

 

[UrbanRats]

I just went into the bathroom and blowdried my hair. Apparently I don't have true hair physics

It's physics demonstration, i'm sure it's easy to add rigidity to the hair strands if needed.
Y'all being intentionally dense.

 

[foxbeldin]

And this is what i expect when I see "every single hair moves" and " true hair physics":

I need to know what shampoo i need to use to have such soft hair. Seriously though, it looks amazing. It's probably just set up like that for the demonstration purpose.
I hope we'll get hair like that on PS5.

 

[martino]

Perhaps they will combine them in the final form.

In the beginning of the demo you can see wind rippling the shirt.. might not be true physics, but it's better than what they had before.

Pure gameplay sequence was implied.

 

[Nestunt]

I'd rather see Chloe

.

 

[Callibretto]

Nothing about cloth physic ?
I didn't spot any in the demo gameplay and imo would a nice add (more noticeable than short hair physic most of the time)

the cloth did moved by the wind in the close up intro of Drake's face. it's subtle, but well, it's a t-shirt and jeans. it's not like Drake wear long coat or cape to show off cloth physics.

Drake's accessories did move beautifully though, like his grappling hook fastened at his waist, assault rifle holster

 

[PLASTICA-MAN]

the cloth did moved by the wind in the close up intro of Drake's face. it's subtle, but well, it's a t-shirt and jeans. it's not like Drake wear long coat or cape to show off cloth physics.

Drake's accessories did move beautifully though, like his grappling hook fastened at his waist, assault rifle holster

Darke's shirt moved in that in teh close up intro and you can spot that too when he teh camera is close in some gameplay parts. Sam shirt moves too and so deos his jacket. You can check that. The movements are very subtile though and accurate and aren't so floppy like a cape physics for example since it would be wrong exaggerating that.

 

[Always-honest]

See that hairy...

haha..

 

[Gordon Shumway]

I think they are going for something a little more realistic. That last gif is ridiculous, who has short hair that soft?

She got that fuzzy baby hair..lol.

 

[Breakfast at Noon]

Nkt a fan of his new face, why do devs change there appearance of main game protagonists?

 

[Callibretto]

Darke's shirt moved in that in teh close up intro and you can spot that too when he teh camera is close in some gameplay parts. Sam shirt moves too and so deos his jacket. You can check that. The movements are very subtile though and accuarte and aren't so floppy like a cape physics for example.

I just saw the video again and look at his grappling hook at his waist, man, is it just me, or does the physics there is really good. seems like no clipping at all and it move appropriately during jumps and everything. I'll try to make a gif out of them later.

 

[akachan ningen]

The attention to detail is so uncanny

 

[Facism]

You balding?

That's a last gen thing

 

[Ambient80]

Isn't TLoU's facial animation done by hand? Because that stuff is insanely good.

See I'll be honest and I know I'm in the minority, but I liked the visuals on everything BUT the characters in TLoU. They looked, I dunno, I want to say grainy but I know that'll be misconstrued. They just looked really weird to me. Like they were trying really hard to be as realistic as possible to the point that it looked bizarre. I dunno, just my opinion.

 

[Majanew]

To everyone saying that the game won't evolve in the future lol: Uncharted 4: A Thief’s End Didn’t Look Like the PlayStation Experience Demo Just Three Weeks Ago:
http://goo.gl/ad9xZh

Well ND shouldn't have bragged that the reveal trailer is what the game looks like, and that it is 1080p/60.

 

[Chû Totoro]

Presented in amazing 30 FPS

Clearly. I don't get how devs are making their priorities.

Chest hair have their own physics lol
At least, if they don't manage to achieve 60 fps we'll all know why. Because chest hair si so fucking important guys !!!

Just make a good game and then add everything you can / want.

Yeah it's impressive for sure but I'd rather have less impressive graphics but having other improvements which are actually affecting gameplay.

 

[Creaking]

You balding?

Only under the skin. If only I could remember where I put that...

 

[PLASTICA-MAN]

I just saw the video again and look at his grappling hook at his waist, man, is it just me, or does the physics there is really good. seems like no clipping at all and it move appropriately during jumps and everything. I'll try to make a gif out of them later.

Yep, you are so right I mentioned that in the otehr thread. the rope attached to his waist moves very realistically and the ring attached to the grappling hook jiggle whenever he uses it and he chnages the hand holding it according to the climbing position and situation. The grappling hook leaves a hole mark when he plnats it on the rock and when he almost fell, using the hook to hang on in emergency left a long scar on the rock. Such details just distinguish the game and ND.

 

[PLASTICA-MAN]

Well ND shouldn't have bragged that the reveal trailer is what the game looks like, and that it is 1080p/60.

It was surely their target. They even said the agme will look better than the reveal.

 

[DarkLordMalik]

Yeah I'm really not seeing that, based on this gif the hair looks just like the same alpha blended planes that we had in previous generations. Like this:

And this is what i expect when I see "every single hair moves" and " true hair physics":

Got nothing on Unity

 

[ElTorro]

 

[Callibretto]

I read somewhere that demo is locked to 30fps with no framedrop at all. locked 30fps with still 1 year left in development where usually optimization is done at the end seems to suggest that their current build are well above 30fps right now. maybe they're still targeting 60fps, just locking it to 30fps for the demo.