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Unfortunate Advertising. Battlefield 4 spotlights EA's inability to launch Games
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Netherscourge
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Who knows, but THIS certainly doesn't look good for the game's future:
http://www.gamespot.com/articles/founders-of-burnout-studio-quit-ea-update/1100-6416915/
Hopefully they build a new version from the ground up and WITHOUT EA's meddling.
VibratingDonkey
Member
Neither Polygon nor Game Informer mentioned stability issues in their reviews. To Polygon's credit, they were decent enough to at least mention that their review was useless. Both reviews were published on the same date and presumably Game Informer's review was therefore also written based on the EA hosted review event.
Speaking of breaking customer trust.
Speaking of breaking customer trust.
EA deserves every bit of flak coming their way, but the last line of that article is fucked. "These lawsuits may address the complaints of investors, but they do nothing for the players who have actually spent $60 on a game".
Seriously? If there's anything that could get EA to fix their game and stop releasing broken ones, it's a shareholder lawsuit. Appeasing shareholders is the whole justification for releasing unfinished games, and now they've blown it.
Seriously? If there's anything that could get EA to fix their game and stop releasing broken ones, it's a shareholder lawsuit. Appeasing shareholders is the whole justification for releasing unfinished games, and now they've blown it.
soulassssns
Banned
All I get now is rubberbanding and the random disconnect from EA severs.
Liberty4all
Banned
I played for hours last night with no problems ...
I've had the game since launch but waited until the new year to really get into it once I heard about all the launch problems. So far so good. I'm really enjoying the game and even thinking about buying premium since I'll likely get all the DLC anyways.
The big thing for me this time around is that with the PS4 and XBONE having just launched there is going to be the usual famine of games. I've always loved Battlefield, so Premium just may be worth it for me this time around.
For the past 2 weeks BF4 on PS4 has been fine for me.
The crashes seem occasional at best. I have experienced 3 crashes in 2 weeks, with about 40 hours of total play time in MP.
Just last night I lost all my soldier progression in MP though. All my guns and attachments gone. But I'm pretty sure that is a legacy issue from BF3. Remember something similar happening there too. I know it will come back but annoying anyway.
I'm not defending it though. I certainly hope this will be the straw that breaks the camel's back. EA needs to be taught a lesson.
The crashes seem occasional at best. I have experienced 3 crashes in 2 weeks, with about 40 hours of total play time in MP.
Just last night I lost all my soldier progression in MP though. All my guns and attachments gone. But I'm pretty sure that is a legacy issue from BF3. Remember something similar happening there too. I know it will come back but annoying anyway.
I'm not defending it though. I certainly hope this will be the straw that breaks the camel's back. EA needs to be taught a lesson.
Yes, hype up a stock, get the price up and then dump it at a profit before it crashes.
EA execs did exactly that. They pumped up the price of EA stocks by hyping up and releasing BF4, and then dumped their own stocks before word got out that BF4 was actually a pile of shit and the stock price dropped.
ElectricBanquet
Member
As long as people are buying games based moreso on hype than anything else I don't see this changing things much for EA. It's certainly not good for them, but the whole SimCity thing apparently didn't force them to change the way they do business, so I don't have much faith that this will either.
meanspartan
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It is amazing to me with all the flack they are getting, they didn't just decide to give everyone Premium for free as a way to earn back some trust and TRULY apologize.
THey could refund people who already bought it, or allow them to put that $50 towards another EA game.
Ya this will never happen, but given just how AWFUL this year has been, if I were in charge over there it would be my first move. It would hurt the bottom line sure, but it would go a long way towards mending bridges.
THey could refund people who already bought it, or allow them to put that $50 towards another EA game.
Ya this will never happen, but given just how AWFUL this year has been, if I were in charge over there it would be my first move. It would hurt the bottom line sure, but it would go a long way towards mending bridges.
what?
how?
one was a reviewer who didn't give a game a certain score.
the other is a company that fucked with the stock market and sold a broken game while doing nothing to fix it
V AA D E R
Neo Member
The very unfortunate truth of it all. I absolutely steer clear of all EA games with the exception of Mass Effect and Dead Space, but those are only really published by them.
Petrae
Member
I'm fully expecting EA to three-peat as Worst Company in America. There haven't been any major improvements and the disasterbacle that is Battlefield 4 likely puts distance between them and the competition.
At this rate, The Consumerist is going to have to consider retiring EA from competition and create a Wall of Shame or something for EA to reside in. Gotta give someone else a chance to be recognized.
VibratingDonkey
Member
BF4 seems to more or less be working on PC nowadays, for me. There was a spat some days ago where Battlelog intermittently failed to connect me to servers for a couple of minutes. But that's acceptable I guess.
This is the game that smashed the camel for me. I'm not pre-ordering games any longer. Pre-ordering is just kind of bad and dumb all over. Took me until now to finally get it, but hey.
Speaking of Gerstmann.
This is the game that smashed the camel for me. I'm not pre-ordering games any longer. Pre-ordering is just kind of bad and dumb all over. Took me until now to finally get it, but hey.
Speaking of Gerstmann.
They wholly own those studios and IPs and have driven those respective developers and franchises into the ground.
You are doing just as much damage.
EA managed to piss off just about everyone this year with BF4, SimCity and NBA Live.
I think they have attracted enough negative attention to see the backlash on sales in the coming years.
And i haven't touched it after release. Another big regret on purchasing it. EA can win the golden poo again. Maby microsoft but EA is getting close for a third one.
Couldn't get into a game on Xbox One at all last night, but apparently a hacker group is taking the credit for that:
http://www.gamespot.com/articles/derp-hacking-group-says-it-took-ea-s-origin-servers-and-battlefield-4-offline/1100-6416903/
http://www.gamespot.com/articles/derp-hacking-group-says-it-took-ea-s-origin-servers-and-battlefield-4-offline/1100-6416903/
The only current solution. It is working out very well for me.
And it sold because no reviewers called it out. Updating it later means nothing. Damage was already done.
Ah those assholes...
Surprised it took this long, but at least it's being reported. Lowered expectations.
Gotta say though, NBA2K14 is worse in many ways, quietly inserting online DRM post-launch just so they can peddle their virtual currency. Essentially, modes that should be completely offline are now online-only, and when 2K's servers are down (which has been very often of late), players can't access their saves. It's disgusting.
Gotta say though, NBA2K14 is worse in many ways, quietly inserting online DRM post-launch just so they can peddle their virtual currency. Essentially, modes that should be completely offline are now online-only, and when 2K's servers are down (which has been very often of late), players can't access their saves. It's disgusting.
Same here, but fortunately I already got it for $20 (didn't charge for China Rising for some reason). A fair price for an Early Release 'AAA' game, which this one absolutely is. I can wait for the polish.
Maybe more people will actually wait to buy BF5?
Dreams.
EA is smart, they allowed reviewers to get a hold of BF4 and Sim City during launch events.
They knew exactly what the fuck they were doing.
Neuromancer
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I don't remember any issues (let alone issues this rampant) with BC1 on 360, that was my first Battlefield game. 1943 was smooth too.
.Still one of the worst launches i ever experienced in a long time. BF3 was even better when it launched.
Well, I thought that with SimCity and here we are again.
SmoothRunningGun
Member
I'm happy for you, but they wouldn't have put out 32 updates if there weren't any issues. It is reasonably stable at this point.
PaladinXII
Member
Just to shine some light on this:
1) We have not reviewed the next-gen versions.
2) When we played the game for review, we did not experience problems on PC, Xbox 360, and PS3.
3) Patches made the situation WORSE on those platforms.
4) We (and largely *I*) have written over a dozen stories about the ongoing problems that players have been having with BF4.
So, before you levy an accusation like this, maybe be sure that you're looking at the whole picture. Thanks.
1. Good for you.
2. I have been at launch for all BF titles since BF2 and it has never been this bad.
I own both the PC and PS4 versions here and having less issues with the PS4 version.
The Illiterati
Member
Wow I missed the announcement of the Kuch going to Polygon. what a team.
What. A. Team.
What. A. Team.
F**king great. I've been wondering for a long time if anyone in the industry would finally call out this bullsh*t that publishers are getting away with. I've watched this trend of releasing unfinished games escalate for a while now when it should have been nipped in the bud ages ago. No one said zip. I hope someone nails DICE and EA to the wall for this.
The issues were there at launch, were you playing at a review event? That would be the culprit of the disconnect here. I believe most, if not all, reviews of BF4 took place in a controlled environment like that.
Patches never really made the issues worse, some issues cropped up, but never made the situation significantly worse than before. I'm guessing you probably just jumped into the release environment and noticed it was much different than the review event.
Messofanego
Banned
What does dumping your stock does? Is the shit storm related to investors?
Ok, now I get it. Thanks.
So you just write a good review before playing the entire game?
PaladinXII
Member
I didn't review the game. Matt Bertz did. I'm the news editor, and it's my job to make sure people are fully aware of what's going long after the review is published.
There was an event, but I seem to recall that code was made available between then and the embargo lift. I disagree about your patch assessment. Looking at when things popped up, DLC rolled out, etc., things got worse sometimes. Other times they got better. It was whack-a-mole.
Games that undergo frequent patching like this don't often reach the potential of a similar title that ships with proper QA.
nvm.
Yes. When the product has issues at launch, naturally people will sell the stock and drive the price downward.
The Executives at EA know this is coming, so sell a significant portion of their stock at a high value, before the news comes out.
They are also selling this stock concurrently with marketing the game and telling consumers/investors how awesome it is.
See how the stock increases until early September, game release, then a downward spiral to December. The bump in November is probably attributed to people believing the stock to have 'bottomed out' so they buy back in hoping to sell at a higher price...how wrong they were.
Netherscourge
Banned
lol
EA probably invented "DERP" themselves so that they can blame an invisibile entity for their multiplayer games' downtime.
EA probably invented "DERP" themselves so that they can blame an invisibile entity for their multiplayer games' downtime.
chickdigger802
Banned
really curious if any game sites will reject going to review events for future DICE games.
Patches have been helping in my experience with the PS4 version. PC version patches seem to have more issues for me.
No single player, no sale.
Battlefield 4 might as well not have a single player campaign. What's the big deal?
Neuromancer
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How about both games come with not shitty but good campaigns? Wouldn't that be the best possible outcome for everyone?
PaladinXII
Member
Where on earth did you get that from what I said?
Maybe such a thing isn't even possible in the current landscape of AAA development, with those budgets and the deadlines.
I don't know if we'll ever see another Call of Duty 4, i.e: Exceptional SP campaign on top of exceptional multiplayer. Something has to give.
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