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University ignores warnings about Milo, leaving him free to bully trans student
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RPGCrazied
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Acting gay, but isn't? The way he talks no gay man would utter. Therefore I think he really isn't gay. Its part of his act.
Kai Dracon
Writing a dinosaur space opera symphony
Besides the "college campus as the last bastion of our democracy" talk, there's the tiny fact that Milo is established to go around to campuses just to start shit and harass people.
Like, come on. Someone may as well hand out cards that read "I'm Mr. Stalker, I am coming to stalk people" and then make a troll face when they say they want to come to your campus to talk about economics and totally not stalk people. You've got a pretty good case for telling them to fuck right off.
I've wondered before if Milo is lying about being gay. Maybe he is. But admittedly I've met a few gay men who are massively fucked in the head, including one who absolutely is as gay as they come, and could be a Milo.
Like, come on. Someone may as well hand out cards that read "I'm Mr. Stalker, I am coming to stalk people" and then make a troll face when they say they want to come to your campus to talk about economics and totally not stalk people. You've got a pretty good case for telling them to fuck right off.
I've wondered before if Milo is lying about being gay. Maybe he is. But admittedly I've met a few gay men who are massively fucked in the head, including one who absolutely is as gay as they come, and could be a Milo.
"Lesile Jones is an ape"
"I am choose to be gay so I wouldn't have to deal with nutty broads"
That conversation is not worth having
Yeah, I suppose that's it. He's an token caricature leader who is self-hating enough to be acceptable. It's fucking vile.
Psychoward
Banned
I mean he's political opposition in that progressives need to wipe the floor with his ilk but he's not someone of any value or insight in to the political process. He has no job or formal position of power in the political process.
And no, he is not open to having a conversation. Did you read the OP? Why are you fixated on having a conversation with someone who's a hateful piece of garbage who's been proven in the past to be fabricating and exaggerating some of his persona just to get fame?
If you want to try and convince him of his backwards views go ahead and contact him online or in person. Colleges should not be giving this fuck head any more exposure or money than he already has.
Right? The fuck? As if trans people aren't already targeted for violence... Disgusting.
The central tenants of academia are to learn and delve deep into the subject at hand and to allow discourse, not to give any shitstain a platform.
Gentleman Jack
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Spineless coward of a chancellor, a complete disgrace to higher learning and very likely a fucking liar to boot. The student body should be calling for his head now.
Tell me, what valid conversations and debate is there about the humanity of transgender people.
Somethings are black and white in this world, otherwise there wouldn't be so many shades of gray.
I'm not even going to mention the fact he just used his platform to embarrass, bully, and humiliate a private individual for who they are.
BrutishMrFish
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That's a load of shit. If he gave a damn about having a conversation, he wouldn't have harassed somebody for kicks.
I've met transphobic gay people, they aren't immune to intolerance and bigotry.
EDIT: Until we get any hard proof its irrelevant if he's acting or not, right now he's a very real stain on our community and incredibly hurtful we need to figure out how to stop this asshole from being given an open mic.
Androidsleeps
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What the fuck kind of university gives a platform to a walking breathing fuckface troll who craves nothing but attention? They might as well just contact a random youtube comment and ask it to come speak.
You know, if he used a public figure -- say, Caitlyn Jenner -- as an example for his logic, as odious as it is, I'd be fine with it.
But to single out a private individual of the *university he's speaking at*??? Heinous. Unconscionable. Deplorable.
Meicyn
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What is acting gay?
Sorry, but homosexuality is nothing more than a sexual preference. Milo's homosexual and that's the reality of it. You can be gay and a piece of shit for a human being at the same time.
How About No
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That hurt to even read what he said. I can't believe this bullshit
Metalingus5150
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Uhhhh what?
Pops Maellard
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Do you genuinely believe that he was speaking there so he could have a conversation with those who hold an opposing view? His beliefs are set. He's there to spew objectively hateful extremist rhetoric.
I appreciate your sentiment, but it's irresponsible and not nearly as logical as you think.
"You mean they're just like you and me?" Deeeerrrrrpppppp....
(This thread is making me so angry)
King Tubby
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...why would a gay man want to force his way into the women's locker rooms?
excelsiorlef
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Lol what fucking conversation?
I don't think Obama meant giving a platform for targeting of specific individuals.
KibblesBits
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Getting paid to attack a student that he's targeted is not and should never be a platform supported by any institution of education.
People arguing that this is ok are being obtuse and absurd.
People arguing that this is ok are being obtuse and absurd.
RPGCrazied
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Well, I happen to be gay. And most people I know that is, isn't this hateful. Sorry, its just how I feel. Specially to other gay people. We have to stick together, specially in today's time.
CornBurrito
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I disagree with the notion that homosexuality is nothing more than a sexual preference. I think you are confusing what should be with what is. The people who discriminate against us because of the simple fact we are romantically and sexually inclined toward the same sex has forced us to create community identities to protect ourselves from violence and validate our self worth. Being gay in current society is thus more than a sexual preference. It often serves as a community identity out of necessity. You can of course opt out of the community, but I feel you should recognize that it exists and why it exists.
What I mean is, I don't mean I *agree* with what he says, but it's one thing to make your point broadly, and another to single out a student on the goddamn campus.
I understand what RPG is talking about. I've yet to see extended footage of an interview or talk involving Milo where he doesn't tell a man he's cute, or say how he'd have sex with them, entirely unwarranted in the context of the discussion. Much of the time it comes across as an act, to play up to a stereotype.
Holy shit that is low even for Milo's standards
Being a general transphobic is better than bullying specific people ?
I can see why one is worst than the other but why one would be aceptable over the other ? naaah
Don't try to understand transphobic logic =P
Being a general transphobic is better than bullying specific people ?
I can see why one is worst than the other but why one would be aceptable over the other ? naaah
Don't try to understand transphobic logic =P
Because old conservative rhetoric that links LGBT with rapists and pedophiles. It's a very idiotic and stupid argument that makes little to no sense but, you know, "think of the women and children".
Meicyn
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I'm not sure what your sexual preference has to do with anything though. I happen to be gay as well. Anyone can be the best of the best or the worst of the worst. You can feel whatever you want, but that doesn't change the reality: Milo is another shitty person in a world full of shitty people that just happens to be homosexual.
Chie Satonaka
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Oh, it's absolutely going to happen. It's just a matter of time.
Hate won, so a whole lot of companies are going to start dialing this shit back.
What he said.
There's a difference between listening to what the other side has to say and allowing an asshole to attack people because he's well, an asshole. I hope he's never allowed to speak at any college again.
Stumpokapow
listen to the mad man
Setting aside whether the university ought to have allowed him to speak, they will almost certainly lose a Title IX case brought by the student.
Psychoward
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"Rape culture doesn't exist. Unless it's rape by lgbt folks, then it also might be pedophilia too"
Yep. That is guaranteed. They fucked up.
I really struggle to imagine what set of circumstances makes being a 24/7 terrible human being a worthwhile trade for a pseudo-celebrity status amongst generally hate-filled people and recognition from people who hate you.
I have watched dozens of his speeches now, I listen to all the ones I can and heard him on podcasts too, enough to know all his talking points, all his rebuttals, he is such a strange character, when he first started to appear in the UK on Sky news he provided quite an upstanding image, he argued on tv on tech, gender issues and presented himself almost entirely as someone of integrity, whether he had it or not. Watching him turn from that over the last 2 years to what he is now is incredibly strange, when he was serious before he made some interesting points that, if you didnt agree with would make you think, make you look up, I genuinely like having my thoughts challenged so having someone like him who goes very much against what you know appeals. But what he has turned into is so far from where he used to be and it exists in a world where it feels like he is play acting, he feels anything but sincere, half the time when he makes comments like the above he laughs afterwards, he plays it off, reading it in text is obviously much more vitriolic but if I had a hunch I would legitimately believe that he himself does not believe half the things that come out of his mouth.
What he has done rather incredibly is use his status to exploit a gap in the media that Trump exploited wherein he is actually immune from criticism, in the sense that, you cant really hurt him, you outcast him he becomes more popular, you call him a racist his fans protect him, what he actually is is somewhat irrelevant now.
His talks have slowly evolved into pantomimes where the audience shouts back things at him, he posts funny images and plays the clown to a bunch of people who take it as gospel.
What he has done rather incredibly is use his status to exploit a gap in the media that Trump exploited wherein he is actually immune from criticism, in the sense that, you cant really hurt him, you outcast him he becomes more popular, you call him a racist his fans protect him, what he actually is is somewhat irrelevant now.
His talks have slowly evolved into pantomimes where the audience shouts back things at him, he posts funny images and plays the clown to a bunch of people who take it as gospel.
Frozenprince
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Question these people? Debate?
There is no debate, this poor girls humanity and dignity are being shat on for nothing. That's not a debate. That's disgusting and dehumanizing.
Her humanity is not a debate.
I went to my university's College Republicans club and had a discussion about how awful of a person Milo is and how if he were ever invited on campus to speak, the damage done to their organization would be irreversible. Thankfully they (the leadership at least) agreed with this not only regarding Milo but all other "alt-right" speakers as well.
You will not change these people. They are only there to incite hate and violence then use the ensuing chaos to claim a false sense of legitimacy.
If you ever wish to know why GAF enforces a strict set of rules, look no further than Milo and his ilk. They are the very manifestation of everything wrong with political discussion and their presence itself is the death of any intellectual thought.
You will not change these people. They are only there to incite hate and violence then use the ensuing chaos to claim a false sense of legitimacy.
If you ever wish to know why GAF enforces a strict set of rules, look no further than Milo and his ilk. They are the very manifestation of everything wrong with political discussion and their presence itself is the death of any intellectual thought.
Please don't joke about this. Given everything that has happened this year, this is not outside the realm of possibility.
Gentleman Jack
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You didn't read a single word of what Milo said and assumed, in spite of the mountain of evidence of his years as a target painter for neo-nazis on the internet, that he had something of value to bring, a part of an actual conversation.
You don't even know what a conversation is if you believe that to be true.
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