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[Mr_Elysia]

I can't watch this now, Is this going to be archived somewhere for me to watch later?

Looks like CPAC archives. I can't tell you for certain that everything is archived however.

 

[TouchMyBox]

I'm calling it now. CRTC re-reviews UBB and allows for a 30% discount for wholesalers rather than 15%

Konrad actually seems to believe that diarrhea that is coming out of his mouth right now.

 

[Shao Kahn Brewing a Stew]

He just said "Teksavvy, your client".

Clearly, he is working for Bell...

 

[Spl1nter]

We really need the evidence to see the percentage of usage on the tubes. I doubt its even close to 25% of maximum. Therefore proving that artificial caps are being placed on the consumer and that all this is bullshit.

 

[ZimJaBim]

Anyone else going crazy watching this? Its like pulling teeth. Does no one in that room understand the internet?

 

[Spl1nter]

Konrad actually seems to believe that diarrhea that is coming out of his mouth right now.

None of these people are informed about net neutrality and internet usage and the possibilities that we can have but are denied.

 

[Shambles]

He just said "Teksavvy, your client".

Clearly, he is working for Bell...

I noticed that too. Could it be any more obvious, I really hope this whole thing just gets thrown out the window. There is no reasonable compromise here. There is absolutely no benefit to a nations people by putting toll booths on the internet. It serves no one but the corporations.

 

[amrod]

Anyone else going crazy watching this? Its like pulling teeth. Does no one in that room understand the internet?

no there all old and out of touch...
I seriously doubt any of those use it for more then email

 

[soultron]

This guy is a terrible public speaker. He literally just mumbles shit while the parties keep softballing him.

 

[Grayman]

harder hitting questions coming from the NPD. technological backwater.

 

[slamskank]

Man, this NDP guy is ripping on him. Best questions so far.

 

[dream]

Sounds like he's getting called out for comparing the internet to oil and electricity.

This kind of feels like my reward for voting NDP every election.

edit: "The best analogy is the cell phone." fuuuuuuuuuck

 

[crimzonflame]

This NPD knows what to ask.

 

[soultron]

Good point made about workplace downloading.

 

[cbox]

Canada is a leader? my ass..

 

[Zombie James]

"The best analogy is a cell phone."

OH MY GOD.

 

[Grayman]

yes fink. the cellphone controlled by the same cartel is a great example.

 

[soultron]

That's because it's a fucking CELLPHONE, genius.

 

[Shambles]

Yes, make comparisons against the cellphone situation that is the most broken thing we have in this country. How about instead of making things worse make things better. And not only the the mobile infrastructure is limited far more merely by physics of trying to run many devices on the same wavelengths at the same time. The bandwidth on land lines is so much larger.

I also love the "We're not talking about business we're talking about residential". If you run into something you can't explain just pretend it isn't relevant.

 

[EvilMario]

Yes. NDP for the win. Talk about network upgrades, and how this limits innovation.

 

[Zombie James]

Wow, 15.4GB per month. So much congestion.

 

[Tiktaalik]

this is going nowhere... sigh

 

[dream]

Dude's falling apart now.

Ah fuck, they cut off the NDP guy as he brings up the fact that the infrastructure was subsidized by tax dollars.

 

[Frustrated_me]

He just got RIPPED.

edit: 15megabytes! WTF!!

HES RUNNING THE CRTC!?

 

[OpinionatedCyborg]

15.4 GB from 2009 for the averge Canadian, right? I wouldn't be surprised if it is a lot higher even now.

megabytes lol

 

[dream]

Now he's confusing megabytes with gigabytes.

I'm just waiting for him to start screaming I HOLD YOU IN CONTEMPT

 

[mcrae]

lulz

 

[ukresistance]

They cut Brian Masse off. So far he was the only one to put that arsehole Finckenstein in his place.

 

[soultron]

The user experience on a personal computer allows for much high bandwidth consumptions. The comparison to a cellphone is broken.

Also, the constant references to 200X studies don't fucking matter. Consumption of internet content grows larger every year as more and more outlets switch to things like HD images and video. Television sites are streaming shows on their sites now too.

What the fuck does the past matter? We're consuming more and more bandwidth every year and that won't stop. Ever.

 

[Shambles]

If the liberals could shut up about 'the role of government (the conservatives)' and address the current issue instead that would be great. The more I see the more likely I'm going to be voting NDP.

 

[Shao Kahn Brewing a Stew]

15GB? That's fucking bullshit cause there are shit loads of people using dial-up and slow-ass net. Split it with the speed and they'll see that average increases as speed increases.

 

[dream]

I wish there was some openmedia representation in this hearing.

 

[TouchMyBox]

Wow, 15.4GB per month. So much congestion.

"THOSE POOR AVERAGE USERS ARE PAYING FOR THE SINS OF HEAVY USERS."

"averaged out everyone uses far less than the 25GB cap."

ARE YOU LISTENING TO WHAT IS COMING OUT OF YOUR MOUTH!?

 

[Shao Kahn Brewing a Stew]

innovation... blah blah... wireless phones... blah blah... innovation... blah blah... technology... blah blah... internets... blah blah.,,

FUCKING HELL MAN!

 

[dream]

"IPTV is really not part of your Internet service. You do not get IPTV over the Internet."

That says it all, doesn't it?

Wow, and they accept that answer.

 

[TouchMyBox]

YOU DON'T GET IPTV OVER THE INTERNET? THAT'S FUCKING NEWS TO ME.

Watching this is making me way too angry.

 

[Grayman]

IPTV is not part of the internet
but netflix is

Unsplit that fucking pipe.

 

[Zombie James]

"You're not getting IPTV over the internet."

My brain... my poor brain...

 

[Razorskin]

Separate the pipes.

 

[soultron]

The CRTC would be doing themselves a service by letting Lynne Fancy speak instead of the chairman.

 

[Shambles]

"IPTV doesn't travel over the internet" Brilliant.

 

[Frustrated_me]

He's defending IPTV because of Rogers and BELL with their ON DEMAND! GOOD GOD!
]This guy is clearly bought by Bell.

 

[B-Dex]

IPTV is from a DIFFERENT part of the tube not the same regular internet part.....

 

[Spl1nter]

This anthony rota guy is bad

 

[Shao Kahn Brewing a Stew]

I hope they provide a transcript of this. I want to rip his points apart piece by piece.

 

[DopeyFish]

Wooooowww holy fuck - someone hold me back

 

[dream]

How in the fuck are they not calling him on the "IPTV is not part of the Internet" thing...

 

[soultron]

"I will try to keep the language in terms you can understand."

You don't even know what you're talking about yourself!

 

[slamskank]

Did Finkie seriously say IPTV doesn't use the internet/bandwidth?

 

[Frustrated_me]

IM GETTING FUCKING UPSET!
IM REALLY FUCKING FUMING HERE! SOMEONE SAY SOMETHING TO ME!