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Valve and a TCG. I'm already out.
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Valve announces Artifact, a new DOTA-based card game at TI7 [Up: A few details]
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nephilimdj
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Shock they announce they are making games in Unity, one of those games is a card game.
We have Titanfall 3 coming, last big source game?
We have Titanfall 3 coming, last big source game?
Cosmetic card art, you just allow artists to submit their art to be included in the game. Than you bundle up a bunch of variations, sell them in packs, rake in millions.
One of the most fitting gifs ever.
KirbKirb30
Member
I could almost cry from disappointment.
And they know fucking nothing about the game. I seriously think people are being VERY childish right now.
maniac-kun
Member
Im a bit disappointed with this announcement. Do we get all the cards by default? Or are cards locked behind a paywall?
Mr_Antimatter
Member
It's not that valve doesn't make games, it's just that they seem to have no interest in continuing some of their series of old. It's bene years, and still no HL episode 3, Left 4 dead 3, etc.
This is an expected move though. Card games are big, and they already have a solid moba. Everyone laughed at hearthstone at first, but not anymore. Valve obviously after that pie.
This is an expected move though. Card games are big, and they already have a solid moba. Everyone laughed at hearthstone at first, but not anymore. Valve obviously after that pie.
What the fuck, Titanfall 1 & 2 were built with Source!? I've barely seen those games except for my 5 year old nephew playing the start of the 2nd but it sure as shit didn't look like a Source game. I had no idea.
veloxStrix
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I can understand the disappointment people have but I think its a little hyperbolic at this point. Five pages of basically the same posts is pretty silly. I would rather talk about how much I hate teasers that literally announce a name and show literally nothing of value.
I am excited for a Valve TCG though. Mostly because I wonder how marketplace will work with it. Will they go the now traditional online TCG route or will they allow users to buy, sell, and trade cards? Because I honestly think, as long as the game itself was just as good as contemporaries like Hearthstone and Gwent, that they could steal the market with that.
..or maybe so much of the Hearthstone market has put enough money into the game that it is "unstealable"?
Every week there will be featured cards that are free to use for every player along with a small pool of cards that are always free. You can buy the featured cards to always have access to them though.
Disclaimer: I have no clue and I don't think anyone else does either.
I am excited for a Valve TCG though. Mostly because I wonder how marketplace will work with it. Will they go the now traditional online TCG route or will they allow users to buy, sell, and trade cards? Because I honestly think, as long as the game itself was just as good as contemporaries like Hearthstone and Gwent, that they could steal the market with that.
..or maybe so much of the Hearthstone market has put enough money into the game that it is "unstealable"?
Every week there will be featured cards that are free to use for every player along with a small pool of cards that are always free. You can buy the featured cards to always have access to them though.
Disclaimer: I have no clue and I don't think anyone else does either.
heyo
Tanoooki
Member
I know that a TCG might seem a bit lame when people expect stuff like Left 4 Dead 3 or Half-Life 3 from Valve but I'm excited.
Valve hands down has the best MOBA on the market. I think Valve can do what Hearthstone can do but better. I'm excited to see what they can do and plan on getting in on this day one.
Valve hands down has the best MOBA on the market. I think Valve can do what Hearthstone can do but better. I'm excited to see what they can do and plan on getting in on this day one.
Pureauthor
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Well I know one important detail.
This is not actually Dota, just based off it. Therefore I am not interested.
Well... that's fair. I have much bigger of a problem with the 5 pages of ridiculous one-liners and hyperbole.
They could literally announce anything that isn't HL3 or l4d3 and gaf would hate on them (maybe even l4d3 would get hate, it's not really a pure singleplayer game after all)
MotionBlue
Member
Hilarious. When will Valve break all pretense and simply get a casino license?
nice. lmfao that was my face at the end of the video
vasametropolis
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It's pretty fucked up that in a company where you can work on anything you want, the people that still want to make a game decide to make one of these. The hate is justified. It's embarrassing.
AHA-Lambda
Member
Absolutely this.
A Serious Man
Member
Might be interested if MtG: Arena wasn't around the corner.
It's still bad, look at the post 3 above yours.
It's not Valve's fault more people play the games that people here don't want them to make.
No one plays Valve's single player games after the first month. Why would they keep making them? The market already told Valve what it wants it to make.
Dinosaur Tamer
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The hate is embarrassing. Lots of people enjoy TCGs/CCGs. They can also be really interesting from a design perspective. Joining a small team to make a AAA card game sounds like a lot of fun.
There is no need to hate on that, just because it also happens to be a great business decision.
RollerMeister
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What are they even going to do with all that money they're going to make?
Gipsy Danger
Member
Valve stay winning. Cannot wait for this.
It's weird that people seem to think Valve don't care about making games despite the fact they make some of the most deep games on the market. But I guess it's not HL3 so fuck them right?
It's weird that people seem to think Valve don't care about making games despite the fact they make some of the most deep games on the market. But I guess it's not HL3 so fuck them right?
Glass Rebel
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I like the art for the dota characters and I like card games so I will at least check it out but I can't say I'm thrilled for this.
The lane system does sound different and interesting ,but we will have to see if it translates into good gameplay. If so, count me interested. However, if the gameplay is too similar to DOTA 2 then I'm not sure why the perceived fanbase for the game would want to play that over playing actual DOTA2. It's got to find a way to differentiate itself from both the gamers that may perceive it as a cash in on the CCG trend and the DOTA 2 fanbase. That's got to be a consideration from the development standpoint.
Furthermore, I do think there is some merit to discussing the idea that CCG's are like MOBA's and MMO's -- usually the userbase will pick one champion (the perceived "best" one) and gravitate towards that one. Some evidence of that can be seen in the failure of games like Shadowverse, Eternal, Duelyst ect... to gain traction. Players are reluctant to switch to a new game in these genres because of both loyalty and investment -- they would have to leave their collection behind in order to switch, which for many is a nonstarter.
On both fronts Artifact has a lot to overcome. I want to see more before I make any judgements of the actual game though -- a lot of people hated on HS before it was even out and here we are, with HS basically respawning and entire genre of (video) games. I'm well aware that physical CCG's like Magic were and still are going strong.
Furthermore, I do think there is some merit to discussing the idea that CCG's are like MOBA's and MMO's -- usually the userbase will pick one champion (the perceived "best" one) and gravitate towards that one. Some evidence of that can be seen in the failure of games like Shadowverse, Eternal, Duelyst ect... to gain traction. Players are reluctant to switch to a new game in these genres because of both loyalty and investment -- they would have to leave their collection behind in order to switch, which for many is a nonstarter.
On both fronts Artifact has a lot to overcome. I want to see more before I make any judgements of the actual game though -- a lot of people hated on HS before it was even out and here we are, with HS basically respawning and entire genre of (video) games. I'm well aware that physical CCG's like Magic were and still are going strong.
What are they even going to do with all that money they're going to make?
Maybe continue to invest in cutting edge technology like VR?
You say that as if "A Dota card game" is the most exciting thing they could come up with.
Tart Toter 9k
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The salt in this thread is really something else...
Y'all want a new story driven FPS by Valve yet none of you bought Prey 2017.
I am looking forward to this but i hope they stick to their "No P2W" design philosophy and decide to only sell cosmetics.
Y'all want a new story driven FPS by Valve yet none of you bought Prey 2017.
I am looking forward to this but i hope they stick to their "No P2W" design philosophy and decide to only sell cosmetics.
StrategyFan
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dota-style mobas have a ceiling of being low quality action game
at least a ccg has a chance of being a decent card game instead of forever being restricted to being nothing more than a character action game with RTS controls
Threads horrible indeed
You have no idea what both mobas and character action games are.
Most clueless post I've read in a long while. This coming in a thread with a ton of manbabies crying Valve don't do games any more.
Teknopathetic
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TBH, Day9's vague impressions make it sound more like a board game with living card game elements and not yet-another-Magic-clone.