I know its the worst thing you can smell, and thats my description of cooking broccoli.
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I know its the worst thing you can smell, and thats my description of cooking broccoli.
Here's an article by a biologist who talks the cons. of eating vegetables:
http://raypeat.com/articles/articles/vegetables.shtml.
Personally, I've stopped all vegetable eating and just eat fruits, potatoes, and carrots; vegetables are just something I've never really enjoyed unless I'm willing to invest hard time into them.
I take a vit. k supplement to be safe, as I'm not exactly sure of the vit. k content of the liver I eat.
http://raypeat.com/articles/articles/vegetables.shtml.
Personally, I've stopped all vegetable eating and just eat fruits, potatoes, and carrots; vegetables are just something I've never really enjoyed unless I'm willing to invest hard time into them.
I take a vit. k supplement to be safe, as I'm not exactly sure of the vit. k content of the liver I eat.
As well as not overcooking vegetables, another key point is getting them fresh, which can be easier said than done.
Just taking broccoli as an example, it might be available at all your local supermarkets, but some make little effort to keep it fresh (should not be floppy and should be a uniform dark green color), by keeping it very cool (in ice etc). Also, even though you can probably get it all year round, it may only be great when it's in season (being November, it's very average at present for me here in Virginia).
On the cooking, although I have a steamer, I find dropping "fresh" broccoli into boiling water, for precisely 2:20 yields very good results (if necessary, reduce size of florets by halving or quartering); still has plenty of color, taste (a sprinkle of salt is essential) and texture (fully cooked (not at all raw), but has a little bite to it - not "mushy"). When broccoli isn't so fresh, I find I have to increase cooking time by around 5+s.
You could try broccoli in or with an omelette, as the combination not only tastes great, you mostly taste the egg. I have this with crinkle oven chips, which I cook under the grill (braise) and combine all three for a mouth full.
I remember reading that some people actually find vegetables, like broccoli, bitter to the taste and they found a scientific explanation for it, as covered in the following article: http://voices.yahoo.com/the-real-reason-why-some-people-dislike-vegetables-85417.html. Me, I don't think I will ever, in a million years, come to like beetroot.
Just taking broccoli as an example, it might be available at all your local supermarkets, but some make little effort to keep it fresh (should not be floppy and should be a uniform dark green color), by keeping it very cool (in ice etc). Also, even though you can probably get it all year round, it may only be great when it's in season (being November, it's very average at present for me here in Virginia).
On the cooking, although I have a steamer, I find dropping "fresh" broccoli into boiling water, for precisely 2:20 yields very good results (if necessary, reduce size of florets by halving or quartering); still has plenty of color, taste (a sprinkle of salt is essential) and texture (fully cooked (not at all raw), but has a little bite to it - not "mushy"). When broccoli isn't so fresh, I find I have to increase cooking time by around 5+s.
You could try broccoli in or with an omelette, as the combination not only tastes great, you mostly taste the egg. I have this with crinkle oven chips, which I cook under the grill (braise) and combine all three for a mouth full.
I remember reading that some people actually find vegetables, like broccoli, bitter to the taste and they found a scientific explanation for it, as covered in the following article: http://voices.yahoo.com/the-real-reason-why-some-people-dislike-vegetables-85417.html. Me, I don't think I will ever, in a million years, come to like beetroot.
triplestation
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i like to cut up veg into bite size pieces and throw them in the garbage
This is literally the story of my life. I have so much in common with you.
Vegetables are so gross. I was starting to like broccoli but now the walkway next to my building at school smells like rotten cooked broccoli now for at least 2 months. I don't know why. Anyway, it's spoiled my opinion of broccoli.
The only way I get my veggies in is going to this Indian restaurant regularly that hides it in delicious sauces with meat.
I don't know how to get myself to like veggies otherwise. I've tried eating them otherwise and they will literally make me gag. Sometimes I immediately vomit if I can feel the texture of one of them passing my throat. I hate the crunchiness of vegetables. I hate the slipperiness of vegetables. I hate the vapid leafy taste of vegetables. I hate how they begin to mush when you cook them. I hate the smell. I hate everything about them.
and tomatoes are the worst thing ever because they're fruits but they taste like the king of shitty vegetables because of their slippery sourness.
These don't really exist in the same way in Japan.
You'd be safe with fast food I guess, ew.
Roland1979
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You need to learn to cook. You probably overcook vegetables, using 1 or maximum 3 types of vegetables and you boil them? Bake lots of different vegetables and throw in a sweet type (like bell peppers/paprika). Onions and garlic is usually welcome in the mix as well. Using sauces helps as well (Italian or oriental style for pasta or rice recipes). Sorry you where forced to eat them. Took me a long time to appreciate potatoes, when i was young they made me gag. I went from frying to mashed potatoes to boiled. Healthy fats (Omega 3 rich) is very important as well. Eat fish, nuts and seeds often (nuts are a great snack). Not a fan of supplements but fish oil caps are great as well. Using olive oil and other good oils. Good fats prevent you from diving into bad fats (better to still a hunger with).
Wolves Evolve
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Well look, cancer and stroke are serious. Its hard to pinpoint causes for such complex conditions, but a total lack of vegetable matter - if not part of the problem - would have hampered your recovery significantly. I have poor health and I need to change my (already pretty good) eating habits even further, so I empathise.
I can only say make a small target. If you enjoy pizza, try pizzas with two vegetable products and go with the ones you like. Ham, tomatoes, cheese. If broccoli grosses you out, consider it a Year Three target.
I found that cooking more and more of my own food - making roast meats myself, which is simple as fuck, forced me to find ways to build out the meal. The more you cook, the more reasons you have to sneak in vegetables on your own terms.
flamingotripod
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I dont get if you dont eat vegetables, what do you eat with your meals? I feel sorry for your body having such an unbalanced diet.
Sir Abacus
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I'm a picky eater at 30. No vegetables for the better part of 15 years, no fruit for the better part of 20. For me it's almost entirely texture. It trips up my gag reflex and I've had a massive aversion complex to them and it's probably contributed to my OCD.
It's incredibly embarrassing. My wife and her family are always "is it a place that [Sir Abacus] would eat at?" and double checking menus. Watching things that look delicious during meals but being being unable to eat it knowing that you can't really even choke it down.
I've been working with a therapist for two months on exposure therapy, persisting through the gagging and partial gavomiting. I'm up to a quarter of an apple with the skin on and two grapes per day normally and on my therapy day I'll often go for broke and get through three quarters of an apple cutting it up into smaller pieces. In fact, I've been eating my daily apple and grapes as I write this and here's how small I have to get them to eat it (with a quarter to scale):
I also try to eat soups with chunks of carrot and celery in it to get used to that.
I've tried watermelon without success and pineapple was touch and go but I'm starting to get used to apples, can eat chunks of carrot and celery in soup without too much bother and starting to see progress. I've had a really bad diet for a long time and I promised myself after I turned 30 I'd start eating like an adult and now I'm finally starting to make some headway.
It's incredibly embarrassing. My wife and her family are always "is it a place that [Sir Abacus] would eat at?" and double checking menus. Watching things that look delicious during meals but being being unable to eat it knowing that you can't really even choke it down.
I've been working with a therapist for two months on exposure therapy, persisting through the gagging and partial gavomiting. I'm up to a quarter of an apple with the skin on and two grapes per day normally and on my therapy day I'll often go for broke and get through three quarters of an apple cutting it up into smaller pieces. In fact, I've been eating my daily apple and grapes as I write this and here's how small I have to get them to eat it (with a quarter to scale):
I also try to eat soups with chunks of carrot and celery in it to get used to that.
I've tried watermelon without success and pineapple was touch and go but I'm starting to get used to apples, can eat chunks of carrot and celery in soup without too much bother and starting to see progress. I've had a really bad diet for a long time and I promised myself after I turned 30 I'd start eating like an adult and now I'm finally starting to make some headway.
Roland1979
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At least you're addressing the issue and actively try to change. Don't give up and you will have success! Again, i'm not a fan of supplements but with your diet some extra vitamin supplements will probably not hurt. I would try a good multi vitamin.
Antiwhippy
the holder of the trombone
Why not go for something more neutral, like lettuce/cabbage?
But yeah, I've only gotten used to broccoli recently, but it's been ok. I still don't like the texture of the heads.
But yeah, I've only gotten used to broccoli recently, but it's been ok. I still don't like the texture of the heads.
hipbabboom
Huh? What did I say? Did I screw up again? :(
I'm no vegetarian but I find it easier to fathom a life without meat than a life without vegetables. They're delicious <3
That sounds rough. Great job working on improving it. I guess no durian for you any time soon?
I love veggies in all kinds of forms. Can't go wrong with some crisp and fresh bok choi.
Easy to prepare and delicious too.
It makes me weep that in some places, Red Lobster is considered a place to go. Wish eating out well wasn't so expensive in some areas. A large amount of the western world is just missing so many amazing food choices.
i love it when you go to coastal cities with loads of great local seafood joints and red lobster is still the busiest restaurant.
Don't you have any good (no TGIF) restaurant atound where you can really see how amazing vegetables can be?
Overcooking broccoli (mushy) actually makes it taste more sulfurus. If you're not eating them immediately after cooking, rinse them in cold water after cooking to prevent them from being overcooked from the leftover heat inside them
boiled goose
good with gravy
Sad. Grow up.
To get to like something you are mentally prepared to hate is difficult. You have to convince yourself that you will like it first.
The more you like the more you can enjoy...
Jeez man, so many delicious vegetables out there and you hate every single one?
Reminds me of my 19 year old cousin. She doesn't eat anything but frozen chicken tenders and mashed potatoes. Refuses to try anything. Not sure what kind of mental block she has but it's really weird.
Reminds me of my 19 year old cousin. She doesn't eat anything but frozen chicken tenders and mashed potatoes. Refuses to try anything. Not sure what kind of mental block she has but it's really weird.
peanutbutterlatte
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One thing I can't stand is courgettes. Like an ugly cucumber in disguise.
*nod*
It's hard to invite them for a dinner.
"Thanks, but I don't eat beef, pork, chicken and lamb. Egg and milk products are also a no-go. And please don't put onion and garlic into the food."
>_<
Uh, I have super close friends who are vegan and it doesn't bother me. They're the ones who have a hard time when we eat out. It really doesn't affect me.
Liamario
Banned
First of all, man the fuck up. Broccoli objectively does not taste like grass. You're an omnivore, you're meant to be eating vegetables. I don't care if you say they taste like shit, eat them and keep eating them until you love them. Even if it means cutting them up small and mixing them with stuff you like- eat vegetables.
You're 30 years old and you had a stroke; you should fucking know better than this.
You're 30 years old and you had a stroke; you should fucking know better than this.
pillowtalk
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I used to hate them when I was a teen. Then my mother started cooking stir fried vegetables, sometimes mixed with ground beef. Ended up liking it. Then I started eating them boiled, mixed with other food; liked it then too. Now I can just eat that stuff raw. It takes time.
GraveHorizon
poop meter feature creep
If you think grass tastes bad, you've been eating the wrong kind.
Carrots can get the fuc* out, though.
Carrots can get the fuc* out, though.
Messofanego
Banned
Honestly, Poeye was the main reason I got into them as a kid and love them.
Courgettes are stew padding. Actually, fry them chopped with some garlic and sea salt and add them to a chilli. That works.
Anyone here cook Cauliflower Rice? Grate up a cauliflower and sauté in butter - works as a healthier alternative to rice.
i knew a guy who only ate pies and sausage rolls and had never tried a tomato until he was like 30 something... that left me speechless
you...
you need to learn how to cook... the sooner the better, vegetables shouldnt be left out
note: broccoli shouldnt be used as a starting point
fry up some tomatos, mushrooms, onions and a tiny bit of garlic... add bacon or sausages if you want
eat the veggies as a side or make a sandwich/burger/roll with nice bread and add some fresh lettuce and sauce if you need too
thats an easy start
you...
you need to learn how to cook... the sooner the better, vegetables shouldnt be left out
note: broccoli shouldnt be used as a starting point
fry up some tomatos, mushrooms, onions and a tiny bit of garlic... add bacon or sausages if you want
eat the veggies as a side or make a sandwich/burger/roll with nice bread and add some fresh lettuce and sauce if you need too
thats an easy start
Parakeetman
No one wants a throne you've been sitting on!
I cannot do brussel sprouts anyway they are cooked. No matter what that underlying bitter as hell flavor shines through, and I can't stomach it.
If you roast em up in an oven along with meats, salted and garlic its pretty good.
Nikodemos
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I find 'traditional' Western cuisine to be on average pretty terrible when it comes to decent vegetable dishes. Probably comes from the times when vegetables were the food of filthy unwashed peonry.
Eastern cuisine (Iranian, the many types of Indian, Thai etc.) are noticeably superior. Although I could never eat veggie-only dishes, always need a bit of meat in them. Well, except maybe for İmambayıldı or other such appetizers.
Eastern cuisine (Iranian, the many types of Indian, Thai etc.) are noticeably superior. Although I could never eat veggie-only dishes, always need a bit of meat in them. Well, except maybe for İmambayıldı or other such appetizers.
I wish I understood those studies apart from lower health benefits than public perceptions
Rookje
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You should never boil or steam vegetables. You lose a ton of nutritional content that way. And they also taste awful and watery. Instead, broil them (basically oven cook). You want to cook veggies at very high heat for a small amount of time. Almost any veggie you can spread on some olive oil, salt, pepper and they'll taste pretty good. However, storing veggies for leftovers I find (even reheating in the microwave later in the day) does not work very well.
Try incorperating veggies through stir-fry with meat and a light sauce if you can't stomach them solo. There are tons of stir-fry recipes online.
Try incorperating veggies through stir-fry with meat and a light sauce if you can't stomach them solo. There are tons of stir-fry recipes online.
The best bit is if you click through to view the paper on the journal's website rather than NCBI, you see a footnote from an EU funding body essentially disowning the results of the study, possibly because they didn't like the implications for their latest "we'll get 5-a-day down you even if we have to strap you down and use a funnel" campaign
Jive Turkey
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Well there's your problem. Your wife needs to stop overcooking the broccoli. It should be bright green and still crisp to the bite. Mushy and yellow overcooked broccoli is disgusting.
Oh and chuck the cheese and heavy sauces. That's a great way to ruin good veggies too.
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