You'll probably be able to hook up your old 360 to your Durango, so you don't have to buy anything new and you have BC on your new console.
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VG Leaks: BC for NextBox to be an add on, can play offline
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You'll probably be able to hook up your old 360 to your Durango, so you don't have to buy anything new and you have BC on your new console.
Zombie James
Banned
No, but there could be more elegant solutions. I think the Sony patent was more of a small box containing only the custom parts required for BC while the main console handled the rest. This Durango rumour just sounds like a 360 without a disc drive. The end result may actually be closer to the Sony idea (we'll see), but if this rumour is true their solution to BC is to just buy a separate console, and that's not really BC to me.
you make no sense - nobody is forcing anybody to buy anything
BishopLamont
Banned
Durango attachment essentially.
Not the same thing. You need the Durango to be able to play 360 games.
If this is the case, there's still a major problem in the end: the amount of consumers that can be reached. I.e. a lot of people who don't have online connections / have limited connections would still be put out of the possibility of buying Durango.
Aquamarine
Member
I bet it will be something like this:
1. Must have a working internet connection + Kinect 2.0 enabled to start up Durango
2. Must have a working internet connection + Kinect 2.0 enabled to start a game
3. When you're playing the game, the always-online connection is lifted, but you still have to have Kinect 2.0 enabled at all times
Spec updates you say?
TriniTrin
war of titties grampa
Buy our new system and this add on so you can play old games on your brand new console.... I don't understand the need for BC really other than convenience and space factor. Why would you buy a new console and want to play old games? Why not just keep your console. I guess if you don't have the console already and you wanted to catch up with 360 games you missed, its a good idea. I guess it really matters what the price is, they cant make it more expensive then the 360 so thats good news i guess.
This from another thread, if its 149 for the smaller xbox with no disc drive, how much do yall think this add on will cost!
This from another thread, if its 149 for the smaller xbox with no disc drive, how much do yall think this add on will cost!
It's not an attachment.
It's a new standalone 360 revision. Durango can 'control' it (and, I guess, other 360s) to let you play 360 software on the new 360, through your Durango. So if you want to play 360 software, you go to your Durango, and it will show you 360 games installed on the 360. Select a game, and it will play. It's actually playing on the 360, but the user has the convenience of operating through Durango only for both their Durango and 360 software.
Think of it like cloud streaming or remote playing of games. Except instead of the game running on a remote server in the cloud, it'll be running off your locally connected 360.
NullPointer
Member
I've got no problem with handling backwards compatibility through an optional secondary device. Just still confused how all of this ties together.
In my case MS has replaced my cautious pessimism with outright confusion. I guess that's an improvement. Hah.
I have no interest in their TV/Cable services though, so I wonder what hoops if any the core gamer has to go through to use this next gen setup purely for games.
Miles Quaritch
Member
It is. Now I don't have to worry about losing my content when my 360 dies and MS have stopped making them/they are extremely hard to find on the market.
It's also better than a streaming solution for the exact same reasons people don't want an always online console. Spotty connection, data caps, etc.
sacrificengineer
Member
Well, it puts everything in its place if true. New Xbox and PS4 will be pretty much comparable devices and things such as price, exclusive games and other factors will define the leader (but I think that WW picture won't change much - Xbox for US/UK, PS4 for the rest of the world).
statham
Member
I remember in the PS4 threads people talked about how they would buy a plug-in "cell" chip adapter for $100, this would provide that option and can also run stand alone.
Really? Sounds like a decent solution. This way would mean no elaborate work around and inevitable compromises to the system proper in order to satisfy the minority, while still offering the option to those who find high value in BC.
MisterHero
Super Member
well it's .001% better than cloud-streaming
but if the console is always-online anyways... SMH
but if the console is always-online anyways... SMH
ii Stryker
Banned
This makes complete sense to me.
Backward compatibility is important to me but will come at an additional cost where as that cost doesn't immediately exist for someone who doesn't care about BC.
This is actually a brilliant strategy.
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Backward compatibility is important to me but will come at an additional cost where as that cost doesn't immediately exist for someone who doesn't care about BC.
This is actually a brilliant strategy.
May 21 is soooo ffaaaaaaaarrrrrrrrr aaaawwwaaaaaaaaaaaaaayyyyyyyyyyyy
Zen_Arcade
Banned
Hopefully for them this isn't going to cause brand confusion like what happened with the Wii/Wii U.
Quadraphonic
Member
I wonder if the power bricks are only going to get larger this generation. I mean, the previous ones were already bigger than some consoles.
And having one for the Durango AND the add-on? Whoowee.
And having one for the Durango AND the add-on? Whoowee.
I'm thinking this hardware solution is better than Gaikai's streaming solution. Gaikai will probably take a long time to get a decent amount of PS3 games on their network, right?
With add-on hardware we can play every 360 game on the Durango UI, which would be great if you could use software features like streaming.
With add-on hardware we can play every 360 game on the Durango UI, which would be great if you could use software features like streaming.
BishopLamont
Banned
I'm not exactly sure why the mini 360 requires internet connection in the first place.
Hows it not an attachment if its useless without the Durango?
REMEMBER CITADEL
Banned
Yes, that's along the lines of what I'm expecting. I also expect that you won't need to have the new Xbox mini for that functionality, Durango will connect to Xbox 360 S, too.
It wouldn't be able to be sold separately, then.
Why not just keep it plugged to your tv?
Off-Kilter
Banned
For people wondering what's the point of the add-on if you can just plug in your existing 360, outside of obvious convenience, it provides a way for consumers new to the Xbox ecosystem to enjoy last gen games without having to buy a separate machine to do so - not unlike buying a PS3 to play PS2 games (in addition to PS3 games obv) if you never owned a PS2 before.
Of course this is assuming the add-on is cheap.
Of course this is assuming the add-on is cheap.
BruceLeeRoy
Banned
Excellent news if true which seems likely. Though the 360 add on seems pointless
No disk drive on the cheap 360 revision. Sniff away.
It's possible, although very unlikely, that you can't play 360 games with it without Durango, but there is no way you can't use it for other functions as it's specifically touted as the apple tv competitor. It's not just an addon for Durango.
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Not going to ever happen. If that is where some people want to draw the line then they can just start ignoring the system all together right now.
SniperHunter
Banned
$100 for bc sounds ok to me
This actually makes a lot of sense. We've known for while now that they're planning on releasing a drive-less set-top box that plays XBLA and media content.
I do think the main Durango SKU will be designed to be "always on" to use a lot of its features - but then again, that's no different than the current 360 interface.
Sho_Nuff82
Member
This is so bizarre it has to be true.
BloodMoney
Banned
I'd rather they include BC hardware and leave out Kinect 2... let Kin2 be an additional $100-150 purchase for those who want it.
BRocknRolla
Member
Seems to be some debate here. I can understand reasons for either approach. Which is the reality?
It's a cheap standalone 360 that also interfaces with Durango. It plays retail and XBLA games, so long as they're downloaded from the store. I don't know why "add-on" is being bandied about. And if any 360 interfaces with Durango, you're essentially calling the Xbox 360 a Durango add-on, when it clearly also functions as a standalone device.
would be worth it just to play the 500 of arcade games i have in my history
So far the only stuff we're looking at it being able to run multiple games at once and hot swap them. This doesn't appeal to everyone though, and is again something that's probably more suited towards apps/app pinning Windows 8 style.
In another thread I suggested this functionality could be used to make cross-game invites faster. For instance, you could always have Halo MP selected to be on reserve on the RAM and so when someone invites me to a game it goes straight into the MP and into lobby. I'm not sure if that's actually possible but that's my idea on how they can make use of that for gamers.