Also would no surprise me if Microsoft gets something exclusive from Dead Rising 3.
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Also would no surprise me if Microsoft gets something exclusive from Dead Rising 3.
BruceLeeRoy
Banned
Amen to that bro
I know you specified 'other console', but Sky Player is available on PC, Mac and iOS and Android. All for free.
That's what boggles my mind about Live subscription. MS expect you to pay them to allow you to use your other paid for services. It would be fair enough if you paid MS an annual subscription which included Sky, Netflix etc, but that will never happen.
The Vita has the fastest / most responsive OS of any console or handheld yet. And that uses a tiny 128MB of RAM for the OS. And conversely, the WiiU uses a whopping 1GB for its OS overhead, and it's slow as shit.
You don't need 3GB for a nippy OS, and more to the point, throwing RAM at it doesn't automatically make it fast.
Highlights are likely. Stars are Kinect games. X is a no show.
BruceLeeRoy
Banned
Proelite
Member
Every game should have a star.
Pretty close I think.
Tripp Daily
Member
This is the first I have looked into Black Tusk studios. Do we know anything about the people that work there and the quality of work we should expect from them?
And does 343 have multiple teams?
pharmboy044
Member
Destiny is timed exclusive? I thought the contract that was out there was old and now it's multi-platform?
+9000
3 GB is for normal in-game operation... which Xbox 360 used a massive 32 MB...
Dashboard itself could use all 8GB just like 360 could use all 512 MB
The content access speed is more a failure of design philosophy rather than a failure of engineering at least when compared to original dashboard design which offered a simpler hierarchy of content but had miserable content load times. Scroll down 20 titles? Please wait while we load more!
James Sawyer Ford
Gold Member
I doubt Destiny is a timed exclusive.
There's no reason why it would be, given the ease of porting for the coming generation.
Contract only gave Bungie the ability to delay the PS3 version if they couldn't get it out in time.
Destiny is a multi platform game since it is being published by Activision, but MS will get the timed exclusive rolling off Bungie/Activision very easily.
Doubt it. Activision does timed exclusive dlc not entire games.
Bungie wasn't let go without catches, FYI
Microsoft has first right to publish bungie games (don't know how many and for how long) but considering bungie is working on an entire series, an agreement was probably established to have first game exclusive to Xbox just so Microsoft didn't magically decide the second game would be published by them. (Which is also likely how bungie was able to sign a multi year publishing agreement with actiblizz)
I believe both consoles will be streamlining the OS experience both in and out of games. Outside of design elements - I think MS has a definite leg or 100 up on Sony this gen but if the Vita is anything to go by - both consoles should provide great OS experiences with MS edging Sony out - but not by the same margins we're seeing with 360/PS3. I think MS will have the better OS again but I also think that Sony's will be great, in general, just a little bit shy of MSs tho. Both should be above the "this is very nice" bar.
I gotta say - taking a look at what MS and Sony have done this gen (barring any hiccups) I am really excited to see what they bring to the table. They slugged it out pretty hard and in the end we benefited from it.
Let them do it again this gen. Gamers can only benefit from it unless it causes one of them to bow out next next gen - in which case - that will suck. Competition improved both the 360 and PS3 and I think they would be radically different if the other hadn't existed.
Fuck I just can't wait for this gen to go down! Good luck to MS and Sony!
Source? Because that seems like bullshit.
James Sawyer Ford
Gold Member
I seriously doubt it.
The contract certainly didn't specify anything of the sort, and Activision isn't the type of company to allow a franchise to be a timed exclusive, especially one they're trying to establish as the next big thing. Activision is taking a significant investment on this project, and they're not going to be held back by releasing on just one platform.
I don't believe Bungie left amicably with Microsoft, which is why the two never signed a publishing deal. Once they signed with Activision, there's basically no strings attached to Microsoft whatsoever.
Fahrenheit
Banned
I just hope the keep the new Xbox quiet. My Xbox 360 Slim is whisper quiet yet the WiiU and PS3 are annoying loud
Microsoft actually fucked themselves OS wise. They really couldn't add anything without compromising experience.
MS started 32 MB and had to stay there. You can NEVER increase your OS footprint.
Sony started at 96 MB and eventually went down to 50 MB.
I am almost 99% sure Microsoft has been holding an absolute incredible amount of stuff back. I am absolutely ecstatic with what MS may be cooking up.
Slayer-33
Liverpool-2
Either a timed exclusive agreement for next gen Xbox first through an agreement with MS/Bungie or $$$ with Activision. Regardless of the reason they will delay the PS4 version.
James Sawyer Ford
Gold Member
No, they are/were actively hiring PS3 developers.
It just allowed them to not have the PS3 port done day 1 due to lack of resources if they couldn't get it out in time. That's all.
Not sure why people think there's still some sort of MS exclusivity clause still in place since they signed with Activision.
abacab driver
Banned
Pretty much what I think as well except I think it will be a teaser for the AAA core game from Rare rather than a legit reveal.
Baconsammy
Banned
Next Gen Geometry Wars. Make it so.
Truespeed
Member
I agree. This is Activision we're talking about. Leave no penny unturned is their motto. They would be negligent if they did that considering what they paid Bungie. Long term timed exclusives always tank because interest has waned and they've also blown through their marketing budget.
Before the breakup was official... It was coming out with the rumored split... Considering the split occurred shortly after the leaks, the information is almost guaranteed accurate
Bungie has declined to discuss their contractual obligations with Microsoft to the media, though.
Google it if you must. But you can be damn sure its not bullshit and it does exist... Or did at least if its contingent on exclusivity. And in regards to contract with actiblizz, they don't or possibly can't (as a requirement of contract) mention these obligations with Microsoft freely
You're making the claims please provide the source to back them up.
BruceLeeRoy
Banned
Seems pretty right on.
Interesting. If it's true Activision really screwed up. Which makes it hard to believe.
Screwed up how exactly?
Family Fry
Member
What would be the chances of MS publishing the Durango version of Destiny with an exclusivity period? Thus allowing Activision to publish 360/ps3 versions later.
I'm sure Microsoft, Activision and Bungie came to an agreement. I can totally see a timed exclusive or timed DLC.
XtremeXpider
Member
A lot of things have been added since 2005.
RukusProvider
Banned
Anyone making a 360 only game is a screw up.
Making PS3 only games is a back door to heaven.
How have you not learned this by now?
Passing up a combined 140 million install base is something Activision would do willingly.
3gb OS footprint is huge. If they do use close to that much, they better bring features galore, along with a stunningly beautiful and efficient UI. Reason I'm sceptical is partly because I absolutely dislike the 360's current UI, an absolute cluttered mess, and partly because I dislike Windows 8 (tiles to me is regressive and overly simplistic). The original blades looked better than what they have today, and Windows 7 > Windows 8 as well.
No no, activision likely forced to deal with it. Microsoft probably agreed to waive their right entirely as long as first game was exclusive-
Bungie wanted to release a grand saga of sorts, while maintaining creative control and IP ownership
Activision wanted to milk another cow
Microsoft wanted a tangible benefit
I'm assuming the right of refusal isn't permanent but its still not in best interests of Microsoft to burn bridges completely
This is all entirely speculation, of course.
I mean we're not talking about a permanent exclusive here, it'll just be something similar to the CoD timed deals.
To the dashboard, yes. But list what's been added to in game/guide experience outside of
Party chat
More notification types
Windows live messenger
and launching from a list of apps
...
I am drawing blanks
When talking about limited for OS we are strictly referring to persistent processes which are running at all times the system is on regardless of what application or game is running
James Sawyer Ford
Gold Member
Right, they had first refusal...and they....refused.
Activision is the publisher. They hired PS3 developers.
End of story.
why link to rumors, it was official
http://blog.seattlepi.com/microsoft/2007/10/05/bungie-going-independent-microsoft-confirms-update/
James Sawyer Ford
Gold Member
Not once the app is open.
You don't have to sign in again unless you've turned the system off and have been signed out.
JohnnySasaki86
Member
I thought it was 256mb? You got put it in to context though. When you compare it to the total amount of memory in the system. Its half of the system memory, and 40% of the total memory. 128mb would still be an OS footprint of 20%. Durango would be 38% if it was 3GB, slightly less than the Vita.
who said they refused. Maybe they came to an agreement that Microsoft will get exclusive content or timed exclusive to not publish the game.
actually looking back at the contract here, I remember this part:
this part:
"the parties acknowledge and agree that the budget set forth in the payment schedule set forth on Exhibit E attached, hereto is scoped to delivery of only the Xbox 360 SKU (Plus Content Pipeline) for Destiny Game #1, the parties currently..."
budget of the supposed 720 version, where that's coming from then? doesn't mention anything.
there is no mention of PS4 whatsoever for the first game, it's starting second game that they are considering it. Destiny game #1 platforms are 360, 720, PS3. not even PC.