Barack Lesnar
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If the OP ends up being true then $299 looks like a sure thing. That's one positive thing about this news at least. It'll probably be a single SKU as well.
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Vigil in 2012: Wii U "has been on par with what we have with the current generation"
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If the OP ends up being true then $299 looks like a sure thing. That's one positive thing about this news at least. It'll probably be a single SKU as well.
Isn't it farfetched to use a tech demo to gauge the power of the console's capability during gameplay?
You mean the tech savvy people that said n64 and dreamcast were on par?
Yeah I guess you should go back talk to them.
You know, whether or not the Wii U is more or less powerful than any particular person thinks, is anyone else annoyed by the implication that innovation is a less desirable thing?
Phoenician_Viking
Banned
You know, God Of War 3 in game graphics are more impressive than this tech demo. And yeah, i know you said 360.
boiled goose
good with gravy
The only thing surprising about Wii U being a current gen level machine is that Nintendo claimed the with the WiiU they were aiming to get both core and casual gamers.
The possible appeal of the tablet is clear because of its novelty and accessibility. Are core gamers going to migrate to a new machine that is on par with what they have already? No.
Without core gamers buying the platform, even current gen third party ports wont be guaranteed. See Bioshock.
WiiU might be successful for Nintendo, but I don't see it doing better than the Wii. It will face increased competition in the casual space and not offer enough to take a larger share of core gamers.
The possible appeal of the tablet is clear because of its novelty and accessibility. Are core gamers going to migrate to a new machine that is on par with what they have already? No.
Without core gamers buying the platform, even current gen third party ports wont be guaranteed. See Bioshock.
WiiU might be successful for Nintendo, but I don't see it doing better than the Wii. It will face increased competition in the casual space and not offer enough to take a larger share of core gamers.
Glorified G
Member
on par means it's comparable. Kind of like how the PS2 is on par with the Wii. Even though the Wii is noticeably more powerful than the PS2, the games are comparable.
It does come as a bit of a disappointment that Nintendo seems to have chosen to hold back on console power, but it's what many of us expected anyway. Personally, I'm not going to have much to complain about since this is Nintendo's first HD console and its likely to get way better third-party support than the Wii. The possibilities for the controller still make Wii U very intriguing and in some cases, may very well help make its versions of games the definite ones despite the potentially the issues of comparable current-gen graphics and what Xbox 3 and PS4 will be capable of.I can live with it and looking forward to being able to take advantage of my HDtv.
If the graphics are indeed virtually identical to the 360 and PS3's capabilities, then it just means Nintendo is going to have to do work harder to impress us in other areas of Wii U's features, and rely more on third-party support than they have in the past. Nintendo's got to beef up its software support because the novelty of the controls likely won't be enough to attract core gamers over from Sony and Microsoft's side. Who knows, Wii U may end up being like the Wii in terms of being a viewed as a complimentary console to the next-gen Xbox and PlayStation.
If the graphics are indeed virtually identical to the 360 and PS3's capabilities, then it just means Nintendo is going to have to do work harder to impress us in other areas of Wii U's features, and rely more on third-party support than they have in the past. Nintendo's got to beef up its software support because the novelty of the controls likely won't be enough to attract core gamers over from Sony and Microsoft's side. Who knows, Wii U may end up being like the Wii in terms of being a viewed as a complimentary console to the next-gen Xbox and PlayStation.
Don't prerelease tech demos usually set a low bar for graphics? I remember the early Cube demos being significantly worse than games like RE4 and Wind Waker.
Cerebral Assassin
Member
We are talking about Nintendo, their Zelda tech demos end up looking worse than the actual games released.
ZombiePlatypus
Member
Guys how is this shocking news? I mean, I know there are rumors claiming WiiU will be way more powerful than PS360, but honestly the big 3 have more or less set the their individual patterns/approches that they follow:
I like that they both offer totally different approaches. I don't go to Nintendo for top-of-the-line tech. Their underpowered systems still have amazing games and serve as my gateway to the next gen. Then as prices come down more, I grab Sony's beast. It's worked out nicely like this for a while. I don't see why nextgen would be any different.
- Nintendo: Quirky machine, with power that's nothing to write home about, but decent pricing.
- Sony: Expensive at first, but bleeding edge tech with plenty of power.
I like that they both offer totally different approaches. I don't go to Nintendo for top-of-the-line tech. Their underpowered systems still have amazing games and serve as my gateway to the next gen. Then as prices come down more, I grab Sony's beast. It's worked out nicely like this for a while. I don't see why nextgen would be any different.
Drinky Crow
Banned
DAT TEXTURE!!!!1111
bigtroyjon
Member
More powerful and on par are not mutually exclusive terms. On par doesn't mean "exactly the same", it means it's in the same ballpark.
Epic guy said the WiiU is going to have trouble getting ports after the 720/PS4 come out so I'm not sure how that helps your argument.
textures! self-shadowing! real-time lighting! 720p! ninthings talking about computer graphics stuff like they know a thang
Is that the pre-rendered Killzone demo?
I seriously don't know jack about the PS3 and its games
360 says hello.
BishopLamont
Banned
dat fail
DAT TEXTURE!!!!1111
where was this
No, especially when coming from Nintendo who as has been pointed out have put out tech demos that were not only met but surpassed by the actual games on the system. I don't think it's unreasonable at all. We even have people in this thread saying the demo isn't as impressive as that PS3 game trailer.
In case you weren't aware, Drinky is the mod-run troll account
No, it's from the game.
Uncharted 4 on WiiU? Sony buying Nintendo confirmed! :O
Drinky Crow
Banned
LOOK OUT 360 AND PS4!!!111 HERE CUMS SHADER MODELZ AND TESSELACTORS WITH TEH PIPELINES ON NINTENDO!!!!!11111
Glorified G
Member
Agreed. Each of the big 3 offer something unique & different which is a good thing. Unless your getting one console next gen, or forgoing a gaming PC, I don't see why it matters how powerful Wii U is going to be. As long as it's priced accordingly($249-299) I'm good.
BlueTsunami
there is joy in sucking dick
mugurumakensei
Member
If we are to assume what that one guy "ArkumAsylum" said was true, the Wii U GPU has a lot of modern features (current SM) but lacks "oomph". Therefore, it'd likely support everything in UE4, but the framerate would likely take a hit.
JordanLMiller
Member
So... $250 at launch?
JoshuaJSlone
Member
z0m3le said:
Given Shenmue will only have access to twice as much RAM as Majora's Mask, I doubt it can be a TRUE next gen experience.Shion said:
Coming from Nintendo, eh?
Anyway, you keep using that Zelda non-gameplay tech demo. I'll wait for real gameplay videos.
test_account
XP-39C²
No, that is from the first in-game video. All real time, no pre-render.
Yeah, i assumed that it was a mod controlled account. Thanks for mentioning it anyway though =) I just wanted to point out that the account is marked as banned (due to the grey text) and it is no longer just the tag that says banned.
StickSoldier
Member
LOOK OUT 360 AND PS4!!!111 HERE CUMS SHADER MODELZ AND TESSELACTORS WITH TEH PIPELINES ON NINTENDO!!!!!11111
Ban this fool already!
Does the game actually look that good?
I wish I could sit down in a room and just talk to some people in this thread. I imagine such a dialogue would be so much more productive and more closely resemble a respectful back and forth. I think it's far too easy to be callous and dismissive of someone over the internet. People also have an open soap box platform in the text box in which they can't be immediately refuted or interrupted for correction. Of course, some people are impossible to talk to in person as well.
Really, that's what you get from the U? Uncharted?
mugurumakensei
Member
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3cb7SpZuPsk Here's the Zelda 64 tech demo. Compare that to OOT.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Sz27l4E1V8 or this to Twilight Princess and Wind Waker both of which feature better lighting and texturing.
Not substantially.
CrunchyFrog
Member
fluffydelusions
Member
BTW, has anyone posted this;
http://www.nintengen.com/2012/03/assassins-creed-3-new-wii-u-details.html
http://www.nintengen.com/2012/03/assassins-creed-3-new-wii-u-details.html
brochiller
Member
It's funny how a positive quote about the Wii U like this from Vigil....
...can garner almost no attention. While a negative one has resulted in a ridiculous amount of people jumping to conclusions about the Wii U's power. Also note that this was based on older, presumably less powerful dev kits.
...can garner almost no attention. While a negative one has resulted in a ridiculous amount of people jumping to conclusions about the Wii U's power. Also note that this was based on older, presumably less powerful dev kits.
Combichristoffersen
Combovers don't work when there is no hair
Jesus Christ, people still don't get that his post was a joke?
Uno Venova
Banned
More powerful and on par don't really contradict each other.
DAT TEXTURE!!!!1111
Are those red things on the pillar supposed to be tapestries or planks of wood?
bigtroyjon
Member
The same epic quote that multiple people have posted in this thread saying it contradicts the on par talk.
CrunchyFrog
Member
Ultimately all this matters not until all 3 consoles are actually out. And GAF calls out GAMEFAQS for their console wars armies, jesus.
Frankly I also think it's rather embarassing for the mods themselves to be starting flamebaity threads like this in the first place, especially ones that are A, based on rumor/hearsay, B, for which there is already an ongoing thread, and C, for which there have been rumors to the contrary all over the damned place.
Frankly I also think it's rather embarassing for the mods themselves to be starting flamebaity threads like this in the first place, especially ones that are A, based on rumor/hearsay, B, for which there is already an ongoing thread, and C, for which there have been rumors to the contrary all over the damned place.
Infinite Justice
Member
LOL @ drinky's posts
Barack Lesnar
Banned
This point has been explained several times already... like 3 times by me alone.
