He's also the most popular thing/politician in the US according to that Fox News poll from march if I remember correctly.
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Vox: Bernie Sanders is the Democrats real 2020 frontrunner
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He's also the most popular thing/politician in the US according to that Fox News poll from march if I remember correctly.
It refuses to answer any questions in detail, and whenever somebody disagrees with it, it just calls them corrupt.
Who can come up with what now? He's going to be the oldest out of 20 candidates on the Democratic side.
As long as it's not Trump again who cares? If Bernie croaks I'm sure his vp will be good to take over and, once again, it's not Trump.
The Technomancer
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Someone who would end their second term at 86 should not run for president. You just don't know what health issues are going to hit fast
David H Wong
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If they can't field anyone who can beat Bernie in a primary, they deserve another four years of Trump. But that shouldn't be an issue, Hillary knocked him out easily (that is, without having to go negative or attack him literally at all - which is why his approvals are so high). And she was a pretty weak candidate.
Skellig Gra
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Tons of people care. Yes, smart people will vote for Bernie because Trump is terrible but we just saw that people will use any excuse they can come up with to not vote Democrat. Let's not give them some low hanging fruit.
BackLogJoe
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Id vote for him. I dont care that hes old. I think the things he could accomplish in one year could steer the United States onto a real progressive path.
GoldenEye 007
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This is for the President of the United States. Just about any criteria is fair game. Age is a fact of life and it is perfectly ok to question someone running for one of the most stressful jobs in the world at that age.
If he can do it and his health allows him to and the indications are he can win, then sure. But it is something that will be brought up constantly.
balladofwindfishes
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I believe it was the Bernie supporters who said "just voting against Trump isn't enough, I need a real reason to vote for the person"
Kind of funny seeing that argument on the other side now
theechrisfox
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Maybe Mark Zuckerberg will choose to fund the Democratic party in exchange for a nomination.
IamDodongo
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That ship has definitely sailed
Graphics Horse
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President Kushner
Dubbedinenglish
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The most stressful, scrutinized job in the world. Yeah health and age should be a consideration.
Anyway I really haven't been impressed with him since the election. He has the opportunity to put himself in the leadership role and a public one but continues to dodge putting criticism on the GOP/Trump and puts up friendly fire as much as he speaks out. Personally I think Al Franken has shown himself to be a better leader in being vocal and standing up to Trumpism.
He's like a year older than other potential candidates. But I guess there will always be an excuse.
This is going to be the funniest thing ever.
Carter is a right spring chicken at 92. A real Southern Democrat, robbed of his rightful second term.
Fuck it, I'm on the #Carter2020 train.
Same. I'd rather him be on the campaign trail evangelizing for the nominee and helping with fundraising.
No, you don't. As far as I'm aware Trump's 71.
And Bernie would far and away be the oldest to ever take office.
Pretty much the problem with the left. No one is good enough to run against trump of all people.
Skellig Gra
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Kush is gonna be in jail real soon.
Skinny Pete
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James Comey 2020!!!
Plinko
Wildcard berths that can't beat teams without a winning record should have homefield advantage
1. I hear these same people say Biden is too old.
2. Bernie would get stomped in a national election. I used to think otherwise, but I've changed my opinion. His wife is under investigation for fraud, he says crazy things, etc.
2. Bernie would get stomped in a national election. I used to think otherwise, but I've changed my opinion. His wife is under investigation for fraud, he says crazy things, etc.
Imperfected
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Too old is a problem for tons of reasons. Aside from the physical issues, it also means he's been loitering around in Washington as a professional fence-sitter for decades, and the amount of dirt someone could dig up on him if so motivated is probably absurd.
I would be shocked if his wife's loan scandal was even the worst skeleton he's got in his closet. Even an otherwise solid candidate accumulates a lot of battle damage from decades spent in Washington. A major advantage of Obama was that he hadn't taken too many hits yet.
I would be shocked if his wife's loan scandal was even the worst skeleton he's got in his closet. Even an otherwise solid candidate accumulates a lot of battle damage from decades spent in Washington. A major advantage of Obama was that he hadn't taken too many hits yet.
That isn't how it works. Him giving money to Democratic politicians won't make 15 million people vote for him during the primaries.
He's a Republican.
We have plenty of good candidates not named Elizabeth Warren, Joe Biden, or Bernie Sanders. All will be too old. (Hillary was too old as well this cycle.)
You just don't know them. And this is a good thing because historically Dems win w/ younger candidates fresh to the national consciousness.
My mother would make a better president. No one cares about "good enough", sadly. They just need someone inspiring.
The Main Event
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The old guy who lost to Crooked Hillary?
My standards aren't so low as to be okay with anyone but Trump.
Biden or bust.
Love Sanders but I doubt he'd get any support and/or money from anyone except his loyal followers and average people. US Politics require you buy your votes and if he can't get in bed with any of the major corporations then he'll perform as well as Independent candidates.
Hell, even if it was Sanders/Trump last year instead of Clinton then the outcome would've been still the same. Wall Street saw Sanders as a joke. Wouldn't surprise me if that's the real reason why the DNC rigged it to get Hillary as their candidate.
Love Sanders but I doubt he'd get any support and/or money from anyone except his loyal followers and average people. US Politics require you buy your votes and if he can't get in bed with any of the major corporations then he'll perform as well as Independent candidates.
Hell, even if it was Sanders/Trump last year instead of Clinton then the outcome would've been still the same. Wall Street saw Sanders as a joke. Wouldn't surprise me if that's the real reason why the DNC rigged it to get Hillary as their candidate.
Skellig Gra
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Shit, we have about 17 months at most really.
balladofwindfishes
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(Age in 2020)
Of people who are either obviously gearing for a presidential race, are being tossed around as one, or have said they might be interested
Kirsten Gillibrand : 54
Al Franken : 70
Mark Zuckerberg: 37
Kamala Harris : 56
Cory Booker : 52
Elizabeth Warren : 72
Joe Biden : 78
Bernie Sanders: 79
"Like a year older"
Sanders is literally only a year older than Biden. Biden isn't the only one in the running.
Greigor The Fellhand
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NO.
1.) he is to old now, he was to old before and I voted for him int he primaries
2.) his wife is under investigation for potentially stealing funds from sanders campaigns
- also some rumor about her either getting a loan from russia for his campaign or getting money from russians injected into his campaign.
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Democrats need a new younger face, someone 45-55 to re-energize the base. but with the current DNC, expect someone 65-70.
Kamala harris is great to watch her be a attack dog, but she wont make it in a presidential race, I'd love to see her as AG though. (potential VP pick but iffy)
Cory Booker is very forgettable unfortunately; he'll be the kaisch of democrats if run.
Mark Zuckerburg, Dear god no. NO. NO.
Al Franken, to old, fun guy that seems to have his head on straight but to old.
Kristen Gilibrand, I suspect the same issues as hilary, from new york, will be slandered similar to Hillary in the 90's.
sanders is to old.
so who does that leave?
1.) he is to old now, he was to old before and I voted for him int he primaries
2.) his wife is under investigation for potentially stealing funds from sanders campaigns
- also some rumor about her either getting a loan from russia for his campaign or getting money from russians injected into his campaign.
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Democrats need a new younger face, someone 45-55 to re-energize the base. but with the current DNC, expect someone 65-70.
Kamala harris is great to watch her be a attack dog, but she wont make it in a presidential race, I'd love to see her as AG though. (potential VP pick but iffy)
Cory Booker is very forgettable unfortunately; he'll be the kaisch of democrats if run.
Mark Zuckerburg, Dear god no. NO. NO.
Al Franken, to old, fun guy that seems to have his head on straight but to old.
Kristen Gilibrand, I suspect the same issues as hilary, from new york, will be slandered similar to Hillary in the 90's.
sanders is to old.
so who does that leave?
In Kamala we trust.
Haha, yeah.
There might be many young Bernie Sanders out there the public simply doesn't know about.
Imperfected
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Yes, and yes.
And, like I said, that he has decades of dirt in Washington for opposition research to dredge through. Even votes or solicited opinions that seemed completely reasonable at the time turn into bullets with twenty years of aging in the dirt. (See also: First Lady Clinton.)
Chaos2Frozen
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Could you give him your youth?
Mr_Antimatter
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In other words, someone at Vox wants the bernie or busters to spoil another election for the democrats.
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