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[Loc J Leno]

I feel a larger issue is the cost to buy one. You have to buy it on top of a PC/console.

 

[gifgaf]

What's VR Chat like?

I don't use VRChat often, I've used it but haven't found my fun on it yet but I think it has an important impact on social groups.

Heres a video that I think shows just how VRChat can help people who are not socially well off.

 

[gifgaf]

I feel a larger issue is the cost to buy one. You have to buy it on top of a PC/console.

Not anymore, the Oculus Quest is a stand alone untethered headset. I agree that the cost of entry is too high for the mass market right now though.

 

[Keihart]

I don't think psvr is expensive, atm at least. 230€ with 5 great games is not expensive for what it is.

I agree, PSVR and Oculus Quest are the most affordable options and not bad ones at that, it is the point i was trying to make when replying to Owari, who is constatly talking like PSVR is not real VR and whoever bought it is a fool basically.

 

[Keihart]

I don't use VRChat often, I've used it but haven't found my fun on it yet but I think it has an important impact on social groups.

Heres a video that I think shows just how VRChat can help people who are not socially well off.

Have you seen "Drumsy" on youtube? that channel for me is the whole explanation of why VRchat is awesome, if you are willing and have time to invest, you can get into some really deep, fun and stupid role play or even just witness it.
Sample from the channel :


Edit: Oh shit, your video had Drumsy on it, hahahaha.

 

[Tesseract]

uh vr chat is an endless gold mine, i'm gonna post some goddamn treasure to this thread

 

[Chairman Tickles]

What's VR Chat like?

Like a couple of steps into a weird and scary new world. Time flows differently there also. 1 hour in VR chat is 6 hours IRL.

 

[Owari]

lol you work in the industry but you thought PC VR porn "games" were the biggest driver of VR industry. You thought PSVR's success is due to a slump in ps4 software in the "last 8 months" yet PSVR sales have been consistent for over 2 years. If you work in the industry, you have the most childish, combative dynamic of any professional I've ever seen, not to mention incredibly uninformed. It doesn't add up at all.

Again, that’s not what I said. What I said was Sony hosts a shop that is constantly censored. There is already way less variety when it comes to PSVR due to a lack of modding as well as copyright issue should prevent 90% of great VR experiences from happening. Then you have the censorship from their store making it even worse. To top it all off, terrible controllers without inputs and tracking that hardly even works.

 

[Owari]

What's VR Chat like?

PSVR owners will never know

 

[Romulus]

Again, that’s not what I said. What I said was Sony hosts a shop that is constantly censored. There is already way less variety when it comes to PSVR due to a lack of modding as well as copyright issue should prevent 90% of great VR experiences from happening. Then you have the censorship from their store making it even worse. To top it all off, terrible controllers without inputs and tracking that hardly even works.

You didn't even respond to what I posted, just deflecting with your censored bullshit angle lol. If it's so censored why is it the most successful headset? I already proved your "drought" point wrong. And that really makes no sense. If I'm a gamer and I want to play borderlands2, Resident evil 7, asteobot, etc in VR, what is so censored about those games preventing me from purchasing and enjoying them? Modding? No, console games sell well without mods.

 

[gifgaf]

You didn't even respond to what I posted, just deflecting with your censored bullshit angle lol. If it's so censored why is it the most successful headset? I already proved your "drought" point wrong. And that really makes no sense. If I'm a gamer and I want to play borderlands2, Resident evil 7, asteobot, etc in VR, what is so censored about those games preventing me from purchasing and enjoying them? Modding? No, console games sell well without mods.

Yeah he's just trolling at this point with nothing left. He ignores what we are saying without any proper discussion and is just throwing out anything he can say to try and trigger people.

 

[gifgaf]

PSVR owners will never know

Funny, Im a PSVR owner and I know VRChat, is that because I can play both PCVR and PSVR? unlike you who has never played a PSVR. I could say Astrobot, Blood and Truth, Rush of Blood, Firewall Zero Hour, Farpoint won't ever be released on PCVR or actually any console exclusive that Sony or Nintendo hasn't been ported to PC. Stupid argument is stupid.

Again, that’s not what I said.

No heres what you have said.

If you’ve ever used a Valve Index or a Vive Pro with a 2080ti you’ll realize that you absolutely need a powerhouse to play real VR games. The meager list of titles available on Quest is laughable and the tracking on that system is even worse than PSVR,

This quote is so idiotic I cant actually believe you wrote it down and thought, Yep that's going to win me the argument. Remember this comes from a person who..

Like I mentioned earlier, I work in the industry. It’s my job to know what true VR is. I play all of the VR games.

helped develop the first mods for Minecraft on Oculus Rift, was heavily involved with the development of many very popular VR games on PSVR and PC.

More fun quotes that you have said are...

The rubber gasket on the PSVR is a horrible design choice. Gets all gross after 20 minutes.

How about the sponges on the PCVR headsets, you think they stay pristine? my PCVR headsets get much nastier due to the actual effect of a sponge sucking up sweat, skin fragments, skin oil and all the other shit that humans leave behind. I know which I would want to use and so do most PCVR owners, thats why VRcovers exists. This argument from a person who works in the industry everybody.

And guess what? All of the next gen VR titles developed for the knuckles controller? None of those will be port-able to a system that doesn’t even have directional input on its controllers.

Oh really, all future VR games will only be developed for the Index controllers? how about the Rift, The Quest or any other PCVR headset, they are all going to be left out too?

There is already way less variety when it comes to PSVR due to a lack of modding

That's the nature of a console, this is such a weak ass argument, MS and Nintendo are the same.

Not to mention Sony censors all adult content on their store.

And the games available are censored

Look, if you wasted money on a PSVR that’s on you. Just know you won’t be getting uncensored games on that platform. Also, their headset is by far the least comfortable and shittiest resolution of what’s available.

You have a real bug bear with that, you mention it multiple times. How about Nintendo? do they allow porn on their consoles? I know I can't watch VR porn on a Nintendo console yet I can on a Sony one.

PS4 hasn’t had a notable exclusive release in 8 months.

If you haven’t used PCVR, you haven’t experienced VR.

The only reason the PSVR is doing ok sales wise is because there are nearly 100 million PS4 owners all experiencing a severe software drought. These people should have sold the hunk of junk for a PC by now but instead they wasted money on a sub par “VR” headset that loses tracking on a dime and features controllers created in 2008.

PSVR is a terrible representation of what VR is capable of and I personally feel like Quest and PSVR are definitely holding the entire VR industry back.

I'm just going to let these random troll facts sit here and people can take them all in because I cba to rebut them again.

 

[Owari]

I agree, PSVR and Oculus Quest are the most affordable options and not bad ones at that, it is the point i was trying to make when replying to Owari, who is constatly talking like PSVR is not real VR and whoever bought it is a fool basically.

 

[Owari]

Funny, Im a PSVR owner and I know VRChat, is that because I can play both PCVR and PSVR? unlike you who has never played a PSVR. I could say Astrobot, Blood and Truth, Rush of Blood, Firewall Zero Hour, Farpoint won't ever be released on PCVR or actually any console exclusive that Sony or Nintendo hasn't been ported to PC. Stupid argument is stupid.

VRchat is a phenomenon. The games you mentioned are titles no one has heard of/no one cares about.

How about the sponges on the PCVR headsets, you think they stay pristine? my PCVR headsets get much nastier due to the actual effect of a sponge sucking up sweat, skin fragments, skin oil and all the other shit that humans leave behind. I know which I would want to use and so do most PCVR owners, thats why VRcovers exists. This argument from a person who works in the industry everybody.

Oh, you mean like the entire forehead part of PSVR? The part that isn't replaceable and literally crumbles to pieces after a year of use? Try harder.

Oh really, all future VR games will only be developed for the Index controllers? how about the Rift, The Quest or any other PCVR headset, they are all going to be left out too?

Yes. They may release the game with compatibility for those devices, but the games will have innovative new features on Index, emulated trash on the others.

That's the nature of a console, this is such a weak ass argument, MS and Nintendo are the same.

Which is exactly why consoles are best bought at their cheapest value, and stupid peripherals (Kinect, PSVR) are a huge waste of money. Have fun playing 30% of what PCVR players experience. But burning $300 to make your 2012 console seem new again is fun, right?

You have a real bug bear with that, you mention it multiple times. How about Nintendo? do they allow porn on their consoles? I know I can't watch VR porn on a Nintendo console yet I can on a Sony one.

PlayStation's Censorship Crackdown Has Helped Nintendo Switch Become a Fanservice Haven

Until about a year ago, Nintendo was considered by many the worst offender in terms of censorship in video games. Alterations made to games like Tokyo

twinfinite.net

I'm just going to let these random troll facts sit here and people can take them all in because I cba to rebut them again.

Or you could try to rebuttal anything I've said, probably hard for you since you can't even spell.


Again: if you want to see what VR is really about. High definition, 144hz, no censorship, mods in games, modding existing non-VR games to work in VR, finger tracking controllers (Instead of no directional input on PSVR.. literally 4 face buttons good luck), a headset that doesn't crumble apart after a year, a headset that doesn't feel like you're wearing a bike helmet after 20 minutes .. don't waste your money on a PSVR.

Save up and get a nice PC and an Index + Knuckles controllers.

Anyone who buys PSVR first is only kidding themselves into thinking that's real VR.

Anyone who buys a PCVR first would never buy a PSVR.

 

[Owari]

I'm going to have to leave this video here as well, since Imagine Dragons is the only non-default thing PSVR and Quest users are allowed to play with Beat Saber.




brb, playing any song I want to play with Mace Windu's lightsabers.

might play some Mario Kart and Wind Waker in VR later

 

[Azelover]

It could take off, but it needs a couple of adjustments in how it's being handled.

First of all, it's needs to be REALLY good. Like, the whole body needs to be digitized and all of your motions need to be sensed and translated into the game. To a high degree. Movement of your individual fingers need to be virtualized, for instance.

And, it needs to be easy and cheap for people to enjoy for a limited time. VR is not a home experience. It needs to be distributed in a diffrent way. In malls, theme parks, hotels, schools, etc..

 

[Owari]

It could take off, but it needs a couple of adjustments in how it's being handled.

First of all, it's needs to be REALLY good. Like, the whole body needs to be digitized and all of your motions need to be sensed and translated into the game. To a high degree. Movement of your individual fingers need to be virtualized, for instance.

Are you sure? Many people in this thread seem to think it will do just fine with very minimal input.

4 buttons. Just like the good ol' SNES controller. I mean, if the SNES controller was designed without any directional inputs

 

[Hendrick's]

I feel a larger issue is the cost to buy one. You have to buy it on top of a PC/console.

That issue has been solved.

 

[gifgaf]

Let me get one thing straight here before I continue to shit all over your arguments, I have owned a Vive since launch, a Rift since 2 years ago, a PSVR since launch and recently bought the Rift s and the Quest with the Index on pre order.

The games you mentioned are titles no one has heard of/no one cares about.

HAHAHAHA

Oh, you mean like the entire forehead part of PSVR? The part that isn't replaceable and literally crumbles to pieces after a year of use? Try harder.

The forehead is not a sponge its a wipe clean rubber. I have had mine since launch and looks pristine, I'm not saying that its perfect but it isn't a sponge that soaks up your sweat. you are showing your inexperience Mr "I work in the industry"

Which is exactly why consoles are best bought at their cheapest value, and stupid peripherals (Kinect, PSVR) are a huge waste of money. Have fun playing 30% of what PCVR players experience. But burning $300 to make your 2012 console seem new again is fun, right?

You are talking complete crap dude, You think the PS4, Xbox and Switch are a waste of money? be serious.

Or you could try to rebuttal anything I've said, probably hard for you since you can't even spell.

I have constantly rebuted your bullshit claims because I actually know wtf I'm talking about unlike who is just a fanboy or a troll, have you not been reading? nothing you say makes any sense.

Again: if you want to see what VR is really about. High definition, 144hz, no censorship, mods in games, modding existing non-VR games to work in VR, finger tracking controllers (Instead of no directional input on PSVR.. literally 4 face buttons good luck), a headset that doesn't crumble apart after a year, a headset that doesn't feel like you're wearing a bike helmet after 20 minutes .. don't waste your money on a PSVR.

The PSVR headset is way more comfortable than the Vive or the Rift. The Rift S has improved its comfort but only because it has copied teh PSVR design, i have told you thins already.

Save up and get a nice PC and an Index + Knuckles controllers.

I already have, thats how I can talk with confidence and tell that your talking trash.

Anyone who buys PSVR first is only kidding themselves into thinking that's real VR.

Anyone who buys a PCVR first would never buy a PSVR.

Oops, guess I already debunked this argument right at the start of my post. Your a troll fanboy with nothing but make believe "facts"

 

[Romulus]

Are you sure? Many people in this thread seem to think it will do just fine with very minimal input.

4 buttons. Just like the good ol' SNES controller. I mean, if the SNES controller was designed without any directional inputs

You're just trolling by creating a false narrative in this thread. No one said the psvr moves are the future of VR. They need to be improved.

And btw, considering all the lies you've been spewing, I really doubt you've ever played psvr now at all. There 5 face buttons, 6 total, 8 if you count the side button.

 

[gifgaf]

Are you sure? Many people in this thread seem to think it will do just fine with very minimal input.

4 buttons. Just like the good ol' SNES controller. I mean, if the SNES controller was designed without any directional inputs

This is the ONLY argument you have mentioned carries any weight, Yes the controllers suck, but they work and the aim controller is fantastic. PSVR works around those problems and the games work well, sure its no Rift touch controller but I actually prefer the move over the Vive wands.

 

[Owari]

Let me get one thing straight here before i continue to shit all over your arguments, I have owned a Vive since launch, a Rift since 2 years ago, a PSVR since launch and recently bought the Rift s and the Quest with the Index on pre order.


HAHAHAHA

Real intelligent rebuttal. The sales don't lie though. No one cares about those titles, with maybe the exception being Astro Bot. (I game I'm in the credits for.. go figure)

The forehead is not a sponge its a wipe clean rubber. you are showing your inexperience Mr "I work in the industry"

This is what it looks like after 3 months of normal use. After a year all of that rubber shit falls off and guess what's under? If you guessed gross uncleanable sponge, you win!

You are talking complete crap dude, You think the PS4, Xbox and Switch are a waste of money? be serious.

At full price, without a doubt 100% yes. I spent $200 on the Switch (Gamestop deal). $120 on my PS4 Pro (Industry), and $100 on my Xbox one (Target Price Error). I use them maybe about 10% as much as my PC, which has 2 2080TI and 64GB of RAM. Literally chews up and swallows 90% of all console libraries.

I have constantly rebuted your bullshit claims because I actually know wtf I'm talking about unlike who is just a fanboy or a troll, have you not been reading? nothing you say makes any sense.

You actually didn't rebut anything from the 5 quotes you posted, lmao.

PS4 hasn’t had a notable exclusive release in 8 months.

100% true


If you haven’t used PCVR, you haven’t experienced VR.

100% true

The only reason the PSVR is doing ok sales wise is because there are nearly 100 million PS4 owners all experiencing a severe software drought. These people should have sold the hunk of junk for a PC by now but instead they wasted money on a sub par “VR” headset that loses tracking on a dime and features controllers created in 2008.


100% true

PSVR is a terrible representation of what VR is capable of and I personally feel like Quest and PSVR are definitely holding the entire VR industry back.

This one is more of my personal opinion, but I believe the sub-par VR experiences offered by Quest and PSVR are closer to phone VR, which is shit. You're gonna defend phone VR next I'm sure.

The PSVR headset is way more comfortable than the Vive or the Rift. The Rift S has improved its comfort but only because it has copied teh PSVR design, i have told you thins already.

I disagree, I find the rubber gasket to get coated in sweat very quickly, and the lack of adjustable lens distance makes most games unplayable after an hour or so. (headache. not everyone's eyes are the same space apart)

I already have, thats how I can talk with confidence and tell that your talking trash.

Oops, guess I already debunked this argument right at the start of my post. Your a troll fanboy with nothing but make believe "facts"

You also spend full price on consoles, so it seems you like wasting money.

 

[Romulus]

Let me get one thing straight here before I continue to shit all over your arguments, I have owned a Vive since launch, a Rift since 2 years ago, a PSVR since launch and recently bought the Rift s and the Quest with the Index on pre order.


HAHAHAHA



The forehead is not a sponge its a wipe clean rubber. I have had mine since launch and looks pristine, I'm not saying that its perfect but it isn't a sponge that soaks up your sweat. you are showing your inexperience Mr "I work in the industry"




You are talking complete crap dude, You think the PS4, Xbox and Switch are a waste of money? be serious.




I have constantly rebuted your bullshit claims because I actually know wtf I'm talking about unlike who is just a fanboy or a troll, have you not been reading? nothing you say makes any sense.



The PSVR headset is way more comfortable than the Vive or the Rift. The Rift S has improved its comfort but only because it has copied teh PSVR design, i have told you thins already.




I already have, thats how I can talk with confidence and tell that your talking trash.



Oops, guess I already debunked this argument right at the start of my post. Your a troll fanboy with nothing but make believe "facts"

Yep, lots of psvr/pcvr owners. I see them constantly on reddit. Even my brother owns an Oculus and bought a psvr after trying mine extensively, but he already had a ps4.

I honestly think our resident troll is trying to turn the thread into a psvr vs pcvr thread. Lol good luck, most don't have the console war mentality.

 

[gifgaf]

Yep, lots of psvr/pcvr owners. I see them constantly on reddit. Even my brother owns an Oculus and bought a psvr after trying mine extensively, but he already had a ps4.

I honestly think our resident troll is trying to turn the thread into a psvr vs pcvr thread. Lol good luck, most don't have the console war mentality.

Yea I'm wasting my time with him, hes not interested in a debate just trolling, isn't that ban worthy? I know the OP of this post got banned for something similar

 

[Owari]

You're just trolling by creating a false narrative in this thread. No one said the psvr moves are the future of VR. They need to be improved.

And btw, considering all the lies you've been spewing, I really doubt you've ever played psvr now at all. There 5 face buttons, 6 total, 8 if you count the side button.

The side buttons are used for re calibration and screenshots. The point was, the controller has no means of directional input, imagine playing a game without an analog stick.. thats the PSVR experience.

This is the ONLY argument you have mentioned carries any weight, Yes the controllers suck, but they work and the aim controller is fantastic. PSVR works around those problems and the games work well, sure its no Rift touch controller but I actually prefer the move over the Vive wands.

Yea I'm wasting my time with him, hes not interested in a debate just trolling, isn't that ban worthy? I know the OP of this post got banned for something similar

Arguing is hard when you have nothing to back it up, huh?

GTFO back to ResetEra if you can't handle the truth.

 

[gifgaf]

The side buttons are used for re calibration and screenshots. The point was, the controller has no means of directional input, imagine playing a game without an analog stick.. thats the PSVR experience.

Dude you have no experience with the PSVR, your lied about being in the industry, you lied about working on PSVR and PCVR games. You ignore what people are saying and just pretend you know what your talking about when we all can see you are a clueless troll.

I think I'm done with you, everyone here can see your bullshit for whats it is and thats all i wanted to do, show people what you really are, a fanboy wanting to trigger.

 

[Owari]

Look, there's nothing wrong with playing and enjoying PSVR. If you enjoyed Astro Bot THANK YOU. I'm glad it's being enjoyed.

The future of VR will never be on console, and the reason it seems like a fad that will never take off is because most people haven't even tried real VR. They play a shitty PSVR game, decide "This sucks" and move on.

 

[Owari]

Dude you have no experience with the PSVR, your lied about being in the industry, you lied about working on PSVR and PCVR games. You ignore what people are saying and just pretend you know what your talking about when we all can see you are a clueless troll.

I think I'm done with you, everyone here can see your bullshit for whats it is and thats all i wanted to do, show people what you really are, a fanboy wanting to trigger.

This is exactly what someone without a leg to stand on would say. GG scrub.

 

[gifgaf]

This is exactly what someone without a leg to stand on would say. GG scrub.

Its something that somebody with all the best current headsets and has real experience in all of them would say when talking a lying troll who bullshits about "working in the industry" and realises that whatever he says that the troll (Owari) will never really debate properly and just throw troll "facts" out about things he really has no experience in except googling a picture that comes up at the top of a google search.

 

[Romulus]

Yea I'm wasting my time with him, hes not interested in a debate just trolling, isn't that ban worthy? I know the OP of this post got banned for something similar

Easily ban worthy. And I think he's been in this thread already with another username.

 

[Owari]

Let's sum up the points made by gifgaf and I in this thread

PCVR
- 4K, 180Hz High Definition resolution
- Exclusive titles like VRchat which are cultural phenomenons
- Modding any non-VR game to work in VR
- Modding existing VR games to do whatever you want
- Advanced finger tracking/grip detection, laser precision
- Steam

PSVR
- 1080p, 100Hz (Most games downres to 720p)
- Exclusive titles (Most of which no one has ever heard of)
- No Mods
- "Most Comfortable Headset" (Opinion)
- 5 face buttons with a light on it
- Censored PSN Store


am I missing anything?

 

[Owari]

Easily ban worthy. And I think he's been in this thread already with another username.

You seem triggered, maybe this forum is more your speed.

Protip: don't tell mods how to do their job

 

[Dr. Claus]

I just state PC Master Race dribble and instigate platform wars.

Fixed that for you.

 

[gifgaf]

Let's sum up the points made by gifgaf and I in this thread

PCVR
- 4K, 180Hz High Definition resolution
- Modding any non-VR game to work in VR
- Modding existing VR games to do whatever you want
- Advanced finger tracking/grip detection, laser precision

PSVR
- 1080p, 100Hz (Most games downres to 720p)
- Exclusive titles (Most of which no one has ever heard of)
- No Mods
- "Most Comfortable Headset" (Opinion)
- 5 face buttons with a light on it

What does this prove? Does the switch become obsolete because its not as powerful as a PS4 or Xbox? How about a PS4 and Xbox become obsolete because of a top end PC can out power it? can we go further, How about PCs that are not top end, should people just dump them because they are obsolete?

Handheld consoles sell yet they are not as powerful as a most consoles and pcs. The Oculus Quest is selling like hotcakes but that can't be true because its obsolete due to the top end PC out powering it.

This is your debate and its very flawed, graphics are nice but they are the the be all of gaming. People still love to play games from 30 years ago. Your troll face is showing.

 

[Stitch]

I'm going to have to leave this video here as well, since Imagine Dragons is the only non-default thing PSVR and Quest users are allowed to play with Beat Saber.

I'm not really a fan of the Quest, but Beat Saber on Quest does have custom songs

This Tool Makes Installing Custom Beat Saber Songs On Oculus Quest Easy

A developer going by the username of NyanBlade created a tool that makes sideloading custom Beat Saber songs to Oculus Quest easy. The tool features step by step instructions, guiding you through everything from enabling developer mode on your Quest to how to get custom songs. The developer...

uploadvr.com

 

[Owari]

Fixed that for you.

I just find it funny that people think the "Value Meal" PSVR holds a candle to the $99 Steak Dinner PCVR. Literally equating a cheeseburger to a gourmet meal and telling people it's the same thing, when anyone who's eaten both can tell you that's just not true.

I get you spent $300 on an antiquated piece of technology but defending it like this is just sad.

 

[gifgaf]

I just find it funny that people think the "Value Meal" PSVR holds a candle to the $99 Steak Dinner PCVR. Literally equating a cheeseburger to a gourmet meal and telling people it's the same thing, when anyone who's eaten both can tell you that's just not true.

I get you spent $300 on an antiquated piece of technology but defending it like this is just sad.

4.5 million people think you are wrong. cash me outside, how bout dat.

 

[Owari]

What does this prove? Does the switch become obsolete because its not as powerful as a PS4 or Xbox? How about a PS4 and Xbox become obsolete because of a top end PC can out power it? can we go further, How about PCs that are not top end, should people just dump them because they are obsolete?

Handheld consoles sell yet they are not as powerful as a most consoles and pcs. The Oculus Quest is selling like hotcakes but that can;t be true because its obsolete due to the top end PC out powering.

This is your debate and its very flawed, graphics are nice but they are the the be all of gaming. People still love to play games from 30 years ago. Your troll face is showing.

Handhelds are portable. PSVR is not. The quote you posted was about PSVR, not Quest.

PCVR users can play those games in VR.

 

[gifgaf]

Handhelds are portable. PSVR is not. The quote you posted was about PSVR, not Quest.

PCVR users can play those games in VR.

That point is moot, PCVR users cant play the PSVR exclusives can they?

 

[Owari]

4.5 million people think you are wrong. cash me outside, how bout dat.

Again, just because they bought the console doesn't mean they're even particularly satisfied with it. Everyone who I know that bought one says it collects dust. Probably because of the lack of interesting titles/mods/comfort/shitty controllers, but I digress.

 

[Dr. Claus]

I just find it funny that people think the "Value Meal" PSVR holds a candle to the $99 Steak Dinner PCVR. Literally equating a cheeseburger to a gourmet meal and telling people it's the same thing, when anyone who's eaten both can tell you that's just not true.

I get you spent $300 on an antiquated piece of technology but defending it like this is just sad.

What is sad is trying to demean others for their purchases and act like you are the "intellectually superior" because of it. You are literally nothing more than a child trying to tell everyone they shouldn't enjoy something they enjoy because you don't like their toy. Grow up, mate.

 

[gifgaf]

Again, just because they bought the console doesn't mean they're even particularly satisfied with it. Everyone who I know that bought one says it collects dust. Probably because of the lack of interesting titles/comfort/shitty controllers, but I digress.

In your opinion, 4.5 million disagree with you, you are not even in the majority in this thread, everyone here can see what you are doing.

 

[Owari]

That point is moot, PCVR users cant play the PSVR exclusives can they?

So first you're talking about portability, then you switch to talking about exclusives. I'm not sure that even you think you're making sense anymore.

 

[gifgaf]

So first you're talking about portability, then you switch to talking about exclusives. I'm not sure that even you think you're making sense anymore.

No, YOU are talking about portability, I'm talking about overall power, which is what you were talking about until you tried to change the goalposts again.

Lets cater to your portability argument, what about the Quest? You already said it "Holding the industry back"

I can point out all the holes in your arguments.

 

[Owari]

What is sad is trying to demean others for their purchases and act like you are the "intellectually superior" because of it. You are literally nothing more than a child trying to tell everyone they shouldn't enjoy something they enjoy because you don't like their toy. Grow up, mate.

I'm not trying to demean anyone. I've said quite a few times the opposite actually, that I'm glad people enjoy PSVR. But saying it is the future of VR is a straight faced lie.

What I'm arguing here is that PSVR is not a good representation of actual VR, since PSVR is the most sold unit, most people (Like the OP) see VR in general as a fad.

In your opinion, 4.5 million disagree with you, you are not even in the majority in this thread, everyone here can see what you are doing.

I mean, people also bought Days Gone, it's called a software drought.

 

[Owari]

No, YOU are talking about portability, I'm talking about overall power, which is what you were talking about until you tried to change the goalposts again.

Lets cater to your portability argument, what about the Quest? You already said it "Holding the industry back"

I can point out all the holes in your arguments.

I don't think Quest has been released long enough to be considered here, I do see the potential for portable VR, but not in it's current state. (Quest tracking is horrible)

 

[gifgaf]

I don't think Quest has been released long enough to be considered here, I do see the potential for portable VR, but not in it's current state. (Quest tracking is horrible)

Ok you are crazy wrong about the tracking and again your showing you don't know wtf your talking about. The quest tracking is just as good as the Rift S, they use the same tracking system ffs. its miles ahead of the PSVR tracking.

 

[Owari]

Imagine you've never tried Sushi before. You get all excited because the first Sushi restaurant opened in your town. You eat the Sushi, you think it's great.

Problem is, in Japan that Sushi would be considered horrible.

Now, imagine a store opened up in Japan that sold similar cheap, terrible Sushi on every corner of the road.

Sure it would be successful, it's cheap and accessible.

But is it representative of real Sushi?

It would seem like a fad, people who have never tried Sushi will try the cheap stuff, and never try it again.

 

[Romulus]

You seem triggered, maybe this forum is more your speed.

Protip: don't tell mods how to do their job

You seem triggered, maybe this forum is more your speed.

Protip: don't tell mods how to do their job

This is why you're impossible to even have a level headed conversation with. Everything is so extreme to one side or the other. "Easily ban worthy" somehow translates to telling the mods how to do their job. Lol. That's not a command, that's an opinion. There's a huge difference.

 

[Hendrick's]

I don't think Quest has been released long enough to be considered here, I do see the potential for portable VR, but not in it's current state. (Quest tracking is horrible)

You obviously don't own a quest. I find the tracking to be very accurate in most games. Quest is the best VR system atm, and you sound salty about it.