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WAPO: Trump to 'Decertify' Iran deal
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ginger ninja
Banned
As bad and stupid this is, this really is some 4D chess being played by Trump's advisors(since he is too stupid to have thought of this on his own):
1)Rile the base on touchy subjects and overpromise (DACA, Iran deal) into winning the deal
2)Pass the buck to congress because he sure as shit can't do it on his own
3)Congress is even less likely to get it done and the American public already hates congress for it
4)Blame congressional disfunction at election time and promise to get it done on your own on next term
1)Rile the base on touchy subjects and overpromise (DACA, Iran deal) into winning the deal
2)Pass the buck to congress because he sure as shit can't do it on his own
3)Congress is even less likely to get it done and the American public already hates congress for it
4)Blame congressional disfunction at election time and promise to get it done on your own on next term
That will be interesting. Iran then can restart their nuclear program from next week which could then mean that by year's end we have another war in the middle east (or Iran has a bomb within the next 12 months). There could be some wiggle room if Iran can get Europe and the other countries who signed the agreement to put sanctions on the US for violating the agreement. For Europe this is a lose-lose proposition, either disconnect from the US or get even more wars and more refugees and more terrorism from the middle east. The only realpolitik option for Europe might be to help Iran to get a nuclear bomb, since once Iran has the bomb it is too late for Israel or the US to attack Iran.
Skinny Pete
Banned
Just add it to the list of Obama regulations hes getting rid of. What a petty piece of shit he is.
As a reminder, the GOP breached all norms and told Iran they were going to do this before Iran even signed the deal
https://www.nytimes.com/2015/03/10/...op-senators-letter-to-irans-leaders.html?_r=0
https://www.nytimes.com/2015/03/10/...op-senators-letter-to-irans-leaders.html?_r=0
He has shown straight up incompetence over, and over, and over again. He is just so fucking embarrassing.
Right now the GOP is not popular at all. I would hope they would do the right thing or get voted out by their constituents. Maybe that was then and this is now.
jellies_two
Member
I heard from a reliable source that Obama was deeply afraid of putting a gun in his mouth and pulling the trigger. Pass it on. Don't tell trump though.
Fox Mulder
Member
If this deal gets tossed out despite them following it, Iran absolutely should sprint towards nuclear weapons. The GOP have been trying to drum up war with them for years and we can't even be trusted to uphold agreements anymore.
Why should North Korea stop as well now?
The whole world knows USA can not be trusted and has no respect for its allies and international treaties.
Rogue nation, it is that simple.
eyeball_kid
Member
Trump is looking for any excuse to get into a war in hopes it will bump up his ratings.
Decerting the Iran deal would be a disaster and a huge setback in relations. It would also give the Iranian hardliners an open door. The deal is really one of the only positive outcomes of Obama's foreign policy initiatives.
Decerting the Iran deal would be a disaster and a huge setback in relations. It would also give the Iranian hardliners an open door. The deal is really one of the only positive outcomes of Obama's foreign policy initiatives.
Chittagong
Gold Member
Hopefully, but they've had a hard on for attacking Iran since the '70s. It could well be different.
Killa Sasa
Member
So why on earth does anyone ever make a deal with the US again? Pendulum just swings super hard. I could see it if you are okay with a high risk investment re: money deals, but yeah... several are gonna have major reservations about anything to do with em. It really just makes countries push ahead on their NR.
Brutal all around.
Brutal all around.
BrassDragon
Member
The Iran hawks still believe that the US can effect regime change through military means. Any compromise, rapprochement or deal the Islamic Republic is viewed as legitimizing a government that should not exist.
The reasons they want the regime gone seem to be Iran's support for anti-Israel forces, its stockpile of natural resources and it's historic apathy to the United States.
Motivation aside, I think their notion of destroying Iran and rebuilding it in the USA's image is a pipe dream that already proved disastrous in Iraq.
Could be unrelated...
https://twitter.com/Acosta/status/916084837299126272
https://twitter.com/Acosta/status/916084837299126272
https://twitter.com/ryanobles/status/916086453339336710NEW-> @POTUS warns of a "calm before the storm" after dinner with generals. Won't say what storm is on the way.
I hate being "that guy" or giving an excuse for trump (I really don't like Emperor Tinyhands), but this is pretty much GOP line. The other Party of Death members would have done the same thing.