Kurtofan said:?In France we have the Ground Floor, it's called Rez-de-chaussée.
and your first floor is the second floor! NO!
Kurtofan said:?In France we have the Ground Floor, it's called Rez-de-chaussée.
Yes, think of the Ground Floor as a Zero floor, which makes sense since underground floors have negative numbers(-1,-2 etc...)Natetan said:and your first floor is the second floor! NO!
EskimoJoe said:12 months.
~30 days.
2000+ years.
MM/DD/YYYY does go from smallest to biggest.
ZeroGravity said:MM/DD/YY
Saying September 26th sounds far less awkward than 26th of September, not to mention it removes the unnecessary 'of'.
Depends on the language i'm using, or how formal I want to sound.DoctorWho said:When you say the date out loud, how do you say it?
NotebookJ2 said:I can't be the only one who sees this entire debate as a desperate, sad attempt for people to make themselves feel superior about which type of date system they use, can I?
Log4Girlz said:Arbitrary nonsense, who cares.
There's no particular reason why either noting the date nor month first is any more wrong than the other. Any insistence to the contrary usually results from the need for mental masturbation and not actually expending brain cells to think about why people use vernacular the way they do. But heaven forbids we think about something before taking a viewpoint, it's such a typically dumb Amer...oh wait.
DoctorWho said:When you say the date out loud, how do you say it?
I always say Month, Day and Year in that order. I prefer the US system in this case.
NotebookJ2 said:I'm must be the only person who has no trouble discerning dates of any format.
This must be some conspiracy.
Yes, that's right. I'm the only one who can stop this entire fight! Ha ha...
You'll never get me! I'll never fall into your system of false superiority!
The truth will win out one day...
I will destroy this system and everyone will be free! Free I tell you!
this.explodet said:I always use YYYY/MM/DD when writing down dates, because nobody has ever used YYYY/DD/MM as a standard.
It removes almost any chance of confusion.
Fernando Rocker said:You read the thread.
Majine said:At this point, they've already trademarked big days in the past as 9/11 etc.
The amount of time wasted on figuring out if its dd/mm or mm/dd isn't arbitary.Log4Girlz said:Yep. The order of representing dates is incredibly unimportant. I believe America chose the system it was comfortable with arbitrarily and we function absolutely fine with it, because ultimately it doesn't matter. Its like the ground floor, 1st floor thing...American elevators have a star on the 1st floor to indicate its really just the ground floor IIRC.
lupinko said:I go with science and that's YYYY/MM/DD.
NotebookJ2 said:See, the problem I have with this entire debate is that in all of my years of being on the internet, I have never seen this topic used for anything more than America-bashing. Now I'm hardly the one person to defend America or whatever but good lord if you're going to claim superiority over something there are other, much better areas to do it.
I've never seen anything good come out of this entire debate.
Americans don't waste any time though, we all use MM/DD.reggie said:The amount of time wasted on figuring out if its dd/mm or mm/dd isn't arbitary.
This this this! I don't mind when people say the American system is dumb because I'm not too fond of it, but the logical way to go is definitely this. I use it whenever I have a choice.Somnid said:Actually it should be year, month, day because when the hell do you ever have significant digits on the right side, but whatever.
Kurtofan said:But nobody says Whatever Street,12.
People says 12,Whatever Street.
So DD/MM/YYYY.
You get both informations anyway, might as well have them in the correct order.
? Maybe I misunderstand, but Americans say "123 Fake street," not "Fakestreet 123"crazygambit said:Actually that's an American thing as well. Here we say the street first, then the number.
So I guess it should be either dd/mm/yyyy and number, street or mm/dd/yyyy and street, number. So essentially everyone is a hipocrite and no one gets it right.
In some other languages, such as german, you say "three-and-fourty" for 43, does that mean we should write it the same way we pronounce it, i.e. 340?DoctorWho said:When you say the date out loud, how do you say it?
I always say Month, Day and Year in that order. I prefer the US system in this case.
26th September is just as valid. WHAT NOW!?Harry Dresden said:It is a direct notation of how we format the date in casual conversation.
We don't separate the day and month with a preposition during normal conversation.
26th of September - why is that 'of' needed when you can simply say September 26th.
When used in full we put a comma between the date and year.
September 26th, 2011
I personally, find the of pointless. And its bad composition to use pointless words.
Dead Man said:26th September is just as valid. WHAT NOW!?
nomster said:? Maybe I misunderstand, but Americans say "123 Fake street," not "Fakestreet 123"
It is just as valid, but *GASP* less common in America. That almost... Lines up with Americans' use of DD/MM/YYYY.Dead Man said:26th September is just as valid. WHAT NOW!?
Hitokage said:Outside an ordered list, MM/DD/YYYY is the same as YYYY/MM/DD but with the year put at the end so it reads better in English.
Kinyou said:Forget the dates, let's talk about the a.m. p.m. bullshit!
23:30 > 11:30 p.m.
electroshockwave said:I always find it funny when Americans use the "how do you say it" argument since they seem quite happy with saying the 4th of July instead of July 4th. And what if the same argument was applied to the time? If I say that 5:35 is "twenty-five to six" should I write it as
-25:6 or something?
Ooh new pointless debate: maths vs math!Orayn said:This thread really, really reminds me of people in math/science classes who don't want to admit when something is totally arbitrary and take great pride in wasting class time complaining about how one form of notation is intuitively "wrong" when it makes no difference in practice.
Its mathsOgTheClever said:Ooh new pointless debate: maths vs math!
Kinyou said:Forget the dates, let's talk about the a.m. p.m. bullshit!
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23:30 > 11:30 p.m.[/QUOTE]
i agree. i was writing out flight times for my American family, and starting writing it out in 24 hour clock, but I knew it would confuse them, like accidently reading 16:40 as 6:40, and then having to deal with 'who writes that way GOD' stuff.
it's math, and it's sportSSS not sport. and you go to *A* hospital, you don't go to hospital.