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What are you reading? (December 2015)

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Number45

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Everything else is so much worse compared to it. Or it wont be finished, like ASOIAF. :lol What i especially like is that Erikson doesnt consider the reader an idiot, but just drops you into his world and expects you to figure it out. Which makes the first book a bit hard to start, but on a reread its amazing how everything fits together.

The first book is also the worst in the series, written at least ten years before the other books. I still really liked it though.
Fair enough. My friend is a huge fan, but as I say I didn't really gel with it and I can't really recall why at the moment. Perhaps it was because it expected me to figure it out myself and I didn't feel inclined at the time.

Only thing that sticks in my mind about it right now is rooftop assassins, and I'm now doubting I'm thinking of the right book...

Next up:
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I loved this the first time I read it, but I've read it again recently and it definitely lost something on second time through. I remember loving the mystery of it initially, which perhaps explains why I enjoyed it less this time around, although it's not like I didn't know most of the story.

Something about his description of Hyde captured my imagination first time through. I dunno, perhaps it says more about me than the book itself.
 

mu cephei

Member
*grumbles* it seems almost everyone is reading books I want to read but just haven't quite got round to yet. I need to step up my game.

Just finished:
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Meh, I'm actually disappointed. The world didn't feel consistent, neither did the characters which is one reason why I didn't like even one of them.

I was disappointed in this as well, for the same reasons. The story also was pretty dull. Nothing like the imagination in The Stars My Destination.
 

Lucumo

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I loved this the first time I read it, but I've read it again recently and it definitely lost something on second time through. I remember loving the mystery of it initially, which perhaps explains why I enjoyed it less this time around, although it's not like I didn't know most of the story.

Something about his description of Hyde captured my imagination first time through. I dunno, perhaps it says more about me than the book itself.

That's my advantage. I'm not really into movies, so I don't know the story yet. I have heard some bits and pieces here and there but that's all.

I'm not a fan of multiple readings. While you maybe gain more out of a book, there is always the chance that it's less enjoyable the 2nd, 3rd...xth time around. I prefer to read something different in that time.

I was disappointed in this as well, for the same reasons. The story also was pretty dull. Nothing like the imagination in The Stars My Destination.
Yep, it kind of surprised me, considering they have the same length but you can draw a lot more out of The Stars My Destination.
 

Number45

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That's my advantage. I'm not really into movies, so I don't know the story yet. I have heard some bits and pieces here and there but that's all.

I'm not a fan of multiple readings. While you maybe gain more out of a book, there is always the chance that it's less enjoyable the 2nd, 3rd...xth time around. I prefer to read something different in that time.
I don't often go back, mainly because of time constraints and wanting to experience new things, but I've been watching Jekyll and Hyde on TV with my daughter and wanted to link it into the book in any way that I can (which was pretty much worthless as it happens).

Others I've gone back to were series where I wanted to catch back up before I read the latest book, but that's INSANELY time consuming. Definitely won't be doing that when the next ASOIAF comes out...

Of the books I've read multiple times, those that I can see me continue to read again in the future are probably only 1984 and Dracula. Every time I read 1984 it seems to unravel a little more for me, and the first half of Dracula may very well be my favourite piece of any book I've ever read - I don't think I'll ever tire of it.
 

Lucumo

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I don't often go back, mainly because of time constraints and wanting to experience new things, but I've been watching Jekyll and Hyde on TV with my daughter and wanted to link it into the book in any way that I can (which was pretty much worthless as it happens).

Others I've gone back to were series where I wanted to catch back up before I read the latest book, but that's INSANELY time consuming. Definitely won't be doing that when the next ASOIAF comes out...

Of the books I've read multiple times, those that I can see me continue to read again in the future are probably only 1984 and Dracula. Every time I read 1984 it seems to unravel a little more for me, and the first half of Dracula may very well be my favourite piece of any book I've ever read - I don't think I'll ever tire of it.

TV <-> Book (adaptation), does that ever work properly, complimentary? When I was a kid, I read every Harry Potter book as soon as it came out. In the same vein, I watched the first movie immediately and was really put off by it. Ever since, I either read something or watch something (with some exceptions).

Understandable. I've read the 1st volume several years ago, bought the next ones but haven't read them yet. I will wait until everything is published and then read it in one go. So far, I still remember almost everything of the first book which I hope will still be the case in the future.

Dracula is my 3rd book in line (not sure about the 2nd yet). Glad to hear that it's good. Hm, 1984 is a good one to re-read as you get wiser and more experienced. While I managed to wrap my mind around it, it wasn't easy at all and I've definitely missed a lot of things. Should I ever feel the urge to revisit a book, it will be this.
 

Number45

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I actually like the "The Book" chapter of 1984, but not having involved myself heavily in either politics or economics I find that section really interesting but a little out of my reach in parts.

Animal Farm, particularly after reading the appendices, is a great companion to 1984 as well I think. Orwell seemed to live an interesting life - the fact that anyone would just up sticks and join a revolution in a country that he has no attachment to (as far as I can gather) is amazing to me.
 

Lucumo

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I actually like the "The Book" chapter of 1984, but not having involved myself heavily in either politics or economics I find that section really interesting but a little out of my reach in parts.

Animal Farm, particularly after reading the appendices, is a great companion to 1984 as well I think. Orwell seemed to live an interesting life - the fact that anyone would just up sticks and join a revolution in a country that he has no attachment to (as far as I can gather) is amazing to me.

It depends on what you are looking for. I consider myself a logical-thinking person (theory yay, human behavior nay (though, you can always manipulate that)), so I understand the construct (intent, how it works etc as described in the book) since it was built that way - everything has a purpose. However, since I lack proper knowledge of the political climate and economics of the time as well, I also can't properly grasp the context and real-life references. For me, the latter is background knowledge but it's definitely necessary to fully understand the book and appreciate it.

Haven't read that yet (I'm still a novice reader) but this books seems to be a bit trickier, judging only from your last statement.
 
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So good. Murray nails the world (and ultimate emptiness) of investment banking. Claude is the banker - good at what he does, but that's ALL he does. Enter Paul, a novelist looking to shadow an 'everyman' at a big investment bank. Hence, Claude and Paul and the novel - although Paul's motives might be questionable and Claude seems to be totally incapable of making a single good decision when not at his desk working.

Murray is one of those writers that makes me laugh out loud several times over the course of a book. Plus, he's the mind behind Skippy Dies, which is brilliant to the point of inducing blindness. So, yeah, whatever he does is a blind-buy for me. I hope he's a rather big deal in Ireland, from which he hails. And, yes, a character at one point suggests a sequel to Ulysses, because of course they do.
 

mu cephei

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Murray is one of those writers that makes me laugh out loud several times over the course of a book. Plus, he's the mind behind Skippy Dies, which is brilliant to the point of inducing blindness. So, yeah, whatever he does is a blind-buy for me. I hope he's a rather big deal in Ireland, from which he hails. And, yes, a character at one point suggests a sequel to Ulysses, because of course they do.

I heard somewhere that Skippy Dies is David Cameron's favourite book, and now I just can't make myself read it. I pick it up, then remember and feel nauseated and have to put it back.
 
I heard somewhere that Skippy Dies is David Cameron's favourite book, and now I just can't make myself read it. I pick it up, then remember and feel nauseated and have to put it back.

Well, I've never gotten blown by a dead pig, so you can trust me. And even douches get one right once in a while...

Seriously, it's fantastic.
 
Finished Plutocracy in America: How Increasing Inequality Destroys the Middle Class and Exploits the Poor


Plutocracy in America is a fascinating book that provides a comprehensive overview of how the various laws in America through the years have managed to benefit more and more of the upper fifth to the top 1% of Americans. Mr. Formisano had chapters focusing on various aspects of life, such as health and wellness, wealth and worth, political power, and what it means to be middle class, to show the ways that most Americans are suffering more than ever. Even for the top % of earners health is even down as they have their own sleeping woes and such. The writer makes the claim that if everyone were sharing in better earnings and more wealth than EVERYONE could benefit. Sadly if things keep going like they are, then the people who are in the bottom will stay trapped in the bottom, and there will be less vertical movement between classes, and the top 1% or less carry most of the earnings, most of the wealth, and most of the political power in America. It is stated that if wages remain low (for everyone from hourly workers at fast food places to even some professionals with advanced degrees in engineering and other positions) or hours are decreased then there is less money to be spent around as people are using it for just the essentials rent (if they arent behind), payday loans and fees, and bad food. Or they go into debt. The book is eye opening and not just for one in a certain political class but even both (as it shows in some cases even democrats are swayed to appeal to the people and groups that gave them the most money on their campaigns while avoiding many desires of the common man).

I found it to be a shocking read and one that generally stays on the mind. Some facts will probably always haunt the reader while most others (rural and education segregation, gated communities keeping wealthy from everyone else, low wages at MickeyD's and Walmart where the higher ups are taking in millions in salary + compensation, professors (adjunct) being paid at levels comparable to being in poverty or less than it and getting no benefits), if one has been following the news, wouldn't truly be surprising (corporations have managed to sometimes avoid paying tax or have a -% of how much tax they paid (because they get some federal money due to workers on government assistance), or people in the top % (people making more than the average median income of $23.5mln paying little to no taxes), university presidents using university money to raise wages of administrators but not others, and wasting money on private purchases splurging on expensive fine dining and multithousand dollar umbrella holders)

The book is fairly up to date as well incorporating data as new as late 2014, some mentions of how minimum wage is increasing and some aspects of the provisions of the ACA.

Where the book could be stronger is in the amount of information. While reading chapters seem to go by incredibly fast. Even though the writer is presenting information, it made me wonder if they could have shown even more data and stats. More tables and graphs would have been useful. Additionally properly labeled and clearly presented graphs would have been beneficial. There is one table in the book that would leave wondering wondering, first why is it important (it wasn't even referenced in the text), and secondly, what is it showing? It was hard to make out what the importance of the graph was (corporate tax as a portion of GDP).

Overall a must read book on inequality and money in America in 2015. Wont be a best nonfiction book of the year but was a great easy to get into book on the subject.
 

Skilletor

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Reading the Malazan books is ruining fantasy for me. :(

I've been trying for years to get into this series. I make it to the same place in the first book every time and stop. I promised a friend who loves this series that I'd try harder, and now I'm about 1/4 of the way through the first book. It's interesting for sure, but I still don't love it.

I've read the first is by far the weakest in the series. I just want to get past this book and hopefully the later stuff is better.
 

Nuke Soda

Member
Uzumaki by Junji Ito- Well this book is really, really fucked up. Also it is really amazing. Kirie and her increasingly crazy boyfriend Shuichi experience a series of strange and horrifying events all revolving around spirals. They live in a town haunted by spirals. I think this book does escalation pretty well, it begins weird and somewhat small, but by the end is completely ape shit. If you are in the mood for weird and sometimes outright terrifying images with a good story on top of it then this manga is for you. My two biggest complaints revolve around the end, the first is that the end is just kind of there and second is that it ends. I was so into this story that I was actually sad to see it end and on such a meh note, but everything before that was fantastic.
 
Uzumaki by Junji Ito- Well this book is really, really fucked up. Also it is really amazing. Kirie and her increasingly crazy boyfriend Shuichi experience a series of strange and horrifying events all revolving around spirals. They live in a town haunted by spirals. I think this book does escalation pretty well, it begins weird and somewhat small, but by the end is completely ape shit. If you are in the mood for weird and sometimes outright terrifying images with a good story on top of it then this manga is for you. My two biggest complaints revolve around the end, the first is that the end is just kind of there and second is that it ends. I was so into this story that I was actually sad to see it end and on such a meh note, but everything before that was fantastic.

Fantastic manga indeed. Junji Ito is a genius. In retrospect I do think that it had a good ending. It wrapped everything up in a way that answered questions but still allowed one to wonder. I'm curious as to why you did not like the ending?
We finally see what is behind the curse of the spiral, the great spiral ruins under the town. What built it there, its purpose, and where whoever built it there came from remains a great and terrible mystery while we know that the next inhabitants of the area are doomed to repeat the nightmare.
I also thought that the final chapters had some of the best imagery.
 

mu cephei

Member
I short while ago I finished Red Mars by Kim Stanley Robinson. The focus was on the politics and relationships behind the colonisation of Mars, with the technical details shown to a more limited extent. The problems the colonists encountered were overwhelmingly caused by human divisions, and not technological issues or limitations. It's a valid perspective, though I found it a bit much at times. It was very interesting and realistic overall.

After that I listened to Flow My Tears, The Policeman Said, by Philip K. Dick. A famous man wakes up with his identity erased and no one knowing who he is. I wasn't overly keen on this book. At first it seemed like a series of case studies of deranged women. In fact I still half think that's mostly what it was, as the mystery was undeveloped and poorly paced, and the revelation was just dumped out in a pile at the end (though that does seem to be the way of these things. Sometimes I wish less was explained). There was the usual stuff about identity, drugs, and also some discussion on love.

Most recently I finished Green Mars by Kim Stanley Robinson. It got off to a good start, the focus still on how politics and personal relationships influence everything, but, with the Earth suffering overpopulation and environmental issues, there were lots of futuristic technical things to go into. However, again eventually the relationship issues built and built until they became annoying, and the book seemed rather repetitive, and also lacked the depth of Red Mars. I enjoyed it overall but was pretty keen for it to end.

I really didn't feel like moving onto Blue Mars. Instead, I started The Sixth Extinction by Elizabeth Kolbert. It was summarised briefly on the previous page of this thread so I won't, but I'm thoroughly enjoying it so far. The part where the last breeding pair of Great Auks and their egg were killed was absolutely gutting. Anyway, it's very engaging.

Well, I've never gotten blown by a dead pig, so you can trust me.

Admirable credentials. Sold.
 

purdobol

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Ehh and it's not going well to be honest. First book had some interesting parts. This one eee not so much (yet, I hope). I don't know what it is but the books didn't click with me. Maybe it's poor translation or something...
 
On topic, I will probably try to finish Cormac McCarthy's Blood Meridian before I read anything else. I am more than half way through this thing, and good God is it something else. McCarthy's prose is perhaps the better of any other author I've read thus far; depicting mindless savagery and the godforsaken landscape of the West with a profound, apocalyptic visionary voice.

Here is one of my favorite passages:

They wandered the borderland for weeks seeking some sign of the Apache. Deployed upon that plain they moved in a constant elision, ordained agents of the actual dividing out of the world which they encountered and leaving what had been and what would never be alike extinguished on the ground behind them. Spectre horsemen, pale with dust, anonymous with the crenellated heat. Above all else they appeared wholly at venture, primal, provisional, devoid of order. Like beings provoked out of the absolute rock and set nameless and at no remove from their own loomings to wander ravenous and doomed and mute as gorgons shambling the brutal wastes of Gondwanaland in a time before nomenclature was and each was all.

so good
 

aidan

Hugo Award Winning Author and Editor
On topic, I will probably try to finish Cormac McCarthy's Blood Meridian before I read anything else. I am more than half way through this thing, and good God is it something else. McCarthy's prose is perhaps the better of any other author I've read thus far; depicting mindless savagery and the godforsaken landscape of the West with a profound, apocalyptic visionary voice.

Here is one of my favorite passages:

so good

You know. McCarthy just doesn't work for me. I don't get the appeal of his style, and even in short passages find it difficult and demoralizing to read.
 

Hanzou

Member
I short while ago I finished Red Mars by Kim Stanley Robinson. The focus was on the politics and relationships behind the colonisation of Mars, with the technical details shown to a more limited extent. The problems the colonists encountered were overwhelmingly caused by human divisions, and not technological issues or limitations. It's a valid perspective, though I found it a bit much at times. It was very interesting and realistic overall.

After that I listened to Flow My Tears, The Policeman Said, by Philip K. Dick. A famous man wakes up with his identity erased and no one knowing who he is. I wasn't overly keen on this book. At first it seemed like a series of case studies of deranged women. In fact I still half think that's mostly what it was, as the mystery was undeveloped and poorly paced, and the revelation was just dumped out in a pile at the end (though that does seem to be the way of these things. Sometimes I wish less was explained). There was the usual stuff about identity, drugs, and also some discussion on love.

Most recently I finished Green Mars by Kim Stanley Robinson. It got off to a good start, the focus still on how politics and personal relationships influence everything, but, with the Earth suffering overpopulation and environmental issues, there were lots of futuristic technical things to go into. However, again eventually the relationship issues built and built until they became annoying, and the book seemed rather repetitive, and also lacked the depth of Red Mars. I enjoyed it overall but was pretty keen for it to end.

I really didn't feel like moving onto Blue Mars. Instead, I started The Sixth Extinction by Elizabeth Kolbert. It was summarised briefly on the previous page of this thread so I won't, but I'm thoroughly enjoying it so far. The part where the last breeding pair of Great Auks and their egg were killed was absolutely gutting. Anyway, it's very engaging.



Admirable credentials. Sold.
Are you going to read Vlue Mars or are you done with the series?
 

Nuke Soda

Member
Fantastic manga indeed. Junji Ito is a genius. In retrospect I do think that it had a good ending. It wrapped everything up in a way that answered questions but still allowed one to wonder. I'm curious as to why you did not like the ending?
We finally see what is behind the curse of the spiral, the great spiral ruins under the town. What built it there, its purpose, and where whoever built it there came from remains a great and terrible mystery while we know that the next inhabitants of the area are doomed to repeat the nightmare.
I also thought that the final chapters had some of the best imagery.

I'm sure more readings of it will change my mind. To me it built up and then was like nah we are spiral people now. I knew they would loose from the opening text, but I expected them to go down fighting I guess.
 
You know. McCarthy just doesn't work for me. I don't get the appeal of his style, and even in short passages find it difficult and demoralizing to read.

I can totally see that, and I'm not going to lie, from what I read of Blood Meridian he can be a bit difficult to read: hard to follow, long-winded, etc. I personally love his choice of words and the atmosphere they evoke, but it definitely won't appeal to everyone.

I'm sure more readings of it will change my mind. To me it built up and then was like nah we are spiral people now. I knew they would loose from the opening text, but I expected them to go down fighting I guess.
In typical Lovecraftian fashion, the characters are essentially powerless against forces that are beyond their control or understanding.
 
Dark Tower III: The Waste Lands.

I'm in the middle of chapter four and I think I like this book more than the first two (which were great). I'm also glad to see that a certain someone from book one is back in the fold.
 

Necrovex

Member

My friend lent me this book. I have mixed feelings about Brooks. I sometimes agree with his opinions in NYT; I am shaking my head at other times. I am interested to read his work though. This seems like a particularly interesting subject.
 
Just finished "In a Dark, Dark Wood" and it was basically "Gone Girl" lite. Could have been 50 pages or so shorter with as poorly done as the red herrings were. Oh well.

On to "Under Major Domo Minor".
 
Just recently got into the Vorkosigan Saga, mightily impressed so far (about to start reading The Vor Game). Reading the Culture series in between as well so I am not short of some good sci-fi.
 
HELLO EVERYBODY

So my novel THE MACHINE, which was shortlisted for the Arthur C Clarke Award in 2014, is currently $.99 on the Amazon store for your Kindles. It is my favourite of the books I have thus far written, and it's really quite fucked up dark literary SF. If that floats your boat...

It looks like this:

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And some people said this about it:

‘James Smythe’s THE MACHINE is the kind of breathtaking conceptual SF long absent from the genre.‘ The Guardian

‘With his flair for speculative fiction, (Smythe) cooks up something pretty extraordinary’ – Dazed and Confused

‘Smythe preys on modern fears… to weave a story that balances creeping dread with deadpan humour. Smythe’s nook isn’t so much about the big shocks as about offering a creepily persuasive vision of our own future’ – Metro

‘A technical tour de force of virtuoso writing that explodes off the page. Guaranteed to make the longest flight pass faster.’ – Daily Mail, Best Summer Books round-up

‘Reminiscent of Ian McEwan at his most macabre, it is fiction that demands to be taken seriously. The Machine uses violence and unshielded emotion to precise and devastating effect, reeling the reader towards… a conclusion that feels both utterly shocking and grimly inevitable’ – Will Wiles, author of Care of Woooden Floors

‘A book about memory, about the impossibility of making the future match the past, and the danger of following a desire too far’ – Matt Haig, author of The Radleys

‘Like Ballard, Smythe understands, and ruthlessly demonstrates, the nightmare that results when our fantasies are realised. The result is at once terrifying and moving’ – Sam Byers, author of Idiopathy

<Self promo ends>
 
Exquisitely dated book from the early 90s about phone sex.

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Nicholas Baker is kind of a gimmicky writer (The Mezzanine is a novel that takes place during the duration of a single escalator ride), but he's fun to read in between heavier stuff.
 
i started Malice a year or 2 ago and i'm going to finish it this month (kindle says i'm 70% done)

i plan to pick up the 3 books from the Detective Galileo Series. and read the last 2 books of Dan Well's John Cleaver series.

noticed my lack of reading in 2015 (by lack i mean 0 books read). Gotta remedy that in 2016. hopefully Barnes and noble have these books. or i'll have to Kindle it.
 

Selner

Member
I've been trying for years to get into this series. I make it to the same place in the first book every time and stop. I promised a friend who loves this series that I'd try harder, and now I'm about 1/4 of the way through the first book. It's interesting for sure, but I still don't love it.

I've read the first is by far the weakest in the series. I just want to get past this book and hopefully the later stuff is better.

Fight through it. The Chain of Dogs storyline in the 2nd book (Deadhouse Gates) is phenomenal in my opinion.
The main story in the third book (Memories of Ice) is also very well done.

I managed to read through the whole main 10 books, and even read some of the Bauchelain and Korbal Broach stuff, as well as the Crimson Guard books.

I liked the series, and there are some definite high points. But at times is was borderline nonsensical. They way it jumps from continent to continent is a bit maddening. The coherency of the story gets lost when the books don't really follow eachother.
 

mu cephei

Member
I trust you've heard of Mr. Cameron's alleged own credentials?

Oh yes. But that would be useful information to exchange on handshake, though :p

Are you going to read Vlue Mars or are you done with the series?

I probably will read it, fairly soon hopefully. It's just I was pretty keen to start on Green Mars after I finished Red, but this time I'd kind of had enough for now. Have you read them? What did you think?
 

nicoga3000

Saint Nic
Thinking of picking this up. I don't normally care about non-fiction, but this era of US history is SUPER fascinating. It's like a day in the life of your average Fallout citizen before shit gets crazy.

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Curious...Has digital always been as expensive as it is now? I was going to grab it on my Paperwhite, but it's $10. I can buy a print copy for cheaper (listed as New on Amazon).
 

The Chef

Member
Finished
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Gut wrenchingly sad but surprisingly enough I enjoyed it quite a bit.

Started:
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Having a bit of a hard time getting into it but Im gonna keep truckin.
 

Kaladin

Member
Ocean At The End Of The Lane was a fabulous read. Loved every minute of it.

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..now onto something different:


The Black Prism by Brent Weeks

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Cade

Member
I finished Slade House. FWIW I understood it fine so Bone Clocks is unnecessary, though I will be also reading that. It was... fine. I would've preferred less metaphysical babble but I liked the storytelling and it was easy to read. Mitchell writes like I do though with a shitload of dialogue exposition, which gives me hope.

Now.. I'll try to finish something else, I guess? I need some <300 page books just to chew through real quick. One-offs preferred. Dunno.
 
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