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Lord Panda
The Sea is Always Right
I enjoyed The Order 1886 and want a sequel, so who am I to judge?
Ar¢tos
Member
With "xbox" in their name there are 7 giving 90 or more.
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NeonDelta
Member
I didn’t even go into my house which I apparently had, completely missed that until I saw someone mention it in a thread
gothmog
Gold Member
As I said in another reply a game being relentlessly bashed tends to get a response from the developer. So could actually be a positive thing like with 2077.
ChoosableOne
ChoosableAll
It's a good game but nothing special. They promoted it as their dream game, 25 years in the making, yet it doesn't even rank among their top 5 best games. That's the biggest issue with it. It becomes boring after 40 hours, which is alarming for a Bethesda RPG. It has the potential to be so much better, but they probably ran out of time and money. Perhaps some DLCs will enhance the game. I've enjoyed it as well, but as I mentioned, it's not that special.
crazyjah2003
Member
I am not in yet; but I really want to lol.... ESO and Fallout 76 are both 9/10 games for me so I don't listen to the internet's drivel about Bethesda's Falloff on GAF or elsewhere...
I only have not played because I can't math 400-500 for a series X while I could get PC mods and 60 fps for a "similar" price I think...
I'm not willing to get a PC for now; but the Xbox purchase sure as hell makes no sense... Last gen Forza did nothing for me unfortunately.
I only have not played because I can't math 400-500 for a series X while I could get PC mods and 60 fps for a "similar" price I think...
I'm not willing to get a PC for now; but the Xbox purchase sure as hell makes no sense... Last gen Forza did nothing for me unfortunately.
Fredrik
Member
Yeah you have to go and claim it, there are many things in this game that can be missed like that since there is so much to do. The Mantis questline is probably the biggest one, can’t believe they hid that in a looted note, should be a faction. Makes me wonder if there are any bigger things that nobody haven’t found yet.
MatrixReloaded101
Member
Bethesda has delivered some of the best western RPGs ever made. The expectations and hype were warranted based on their past work, Starfield is a disappointing game when you look at their track record, let’s stop pretending that the “criticism” is because Xbox brought them.
They delivered a mediocre game and that’s ok hopefully the next one is better. But I think Starfield gets a lot of hate because Xbox fans keep trying to spin this fake narrative like they always do to make excuses for mediocrity.
When you look at the professional and user reviews it’s all tracking low scores across the board compared to their other RPGs so let’s stop the pretending, give constructive criticism and move on. Instead of trying to rationalize why people should like this very mediocre game.
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Fredrik
Member
And keep the scores below 7 right?
Seriously, there are 21 mixed reviews for Xbox and PC combined and 1 negative and 153 positive on Metacritic, 183 total on Opencritic. The vast majority rated it 8 or 9. You won’t end up around 70 even with the most paranoid filter method.
This is the part where Starfield is absolutely shittiest unfortunately. Worse still, this was the part where those Bethesda devs could not stop running their mouth about prior to release.
Hey Blinkin
Member
I don't usually have a partner in the hunt, but it worked out this time.
on Steam. Seems you are in the majority. You are 1 of the 6 out of 10 who enjoyed it. No need to be an apologist.
Josemayuste
Member
I enjoyed Starfield too , OP, you're not alone. I just think that the Bethesda purchase and shifting the game into an Xbox exclusive were the main causes of all the criticism, in addition to some game flaws, old engine, and not a groundbeaking game design as expected, wich ultimately reflected on the reviews.
Giallo Corsa
Gold Member
It Is simple indeed :
- Xbox tax ®
- Xbox hate wagon
Right ?
...that, or it's the usual persecution complex of the "big guy's" fandom (your words, not mine).
Repeating something doesn't necessarily make it so/true.
People can like whatever they like, no need for apologist behaviour though, it's getting tiring at this point - more so than the criticism from the imaginary "blue" side.
JackMcGunns
Member
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Games of Today
Member
What I REALLY don't understand is why the loading screens aren't just videos of the ship flying?
Why is there even an animation for take off when it just cuts to a black loading screen for like a couple seconds and then I'm in the cockpit? Why doesn't that little scene play the whole time and THEN cut to the cockpit.
Also when looking at a planet map, please explain to me how it can be nighttime where I land when I picked the lit side of the planet? Does that make any fucking sense?
Just tiny shit like that makes no sense and pisses me off.
Why is there even an animation for take off when it just cuts to a black loading screen for like a couple seconds and then I'm in the cockpit? Why doesn't that little scene play the whole time and THEN cut to the cockpit.
Also when looking at a planet map, please explain to me how it can be nighttime where I land when I picked the lit side of the planet? Does that make any fucking sense?
Just tiny shit like that makes no sense and pisses me off.
Giallo Corsa
Gold Member
Sure, then again, same thing applies to the whole "woe is me" thing in the form of the - now classics© - like : the Xbox tax ®, Sony too®, what about X company®, Next year® etc etc
Cheers
JackMcGunns
Member
But you're invalidating someones experience without even knowing that persion or experiencing what they're going through, you're basically gaslighting the OP telling him it's all in his head.
As a heavey Starfield player and being part of many different groups Starfield related, I can tell you from my own personal experience that it looks like this when someone brings up the name:
Topher
Gold Member
But you're invalidating someones experience without even knowing that persion or experiencing what they're going through, you're basically gaslighting the OP telling him it's all in his head.
As a heavey Starfield player and being part of many different groups Starfield related, I can tell you from my own personal experience that it looks like this when someone brings up the name:
That's not isolated to Xbox or Starfield. TLOU 2 gets similar reaction. As does Star Citizen. Plenty of Xbox gamers go after Sony games for being "movies".
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Giallo Corsa
Gold Member
But you're invalidating someones experience without even knowing that persion or experiencing what they're going through, you're basically gaslighting the OP telling him it's all in his head.
As a heavey Starfield player and being part of many different groups Starfield related, I can tell you from my own personal experience that it looks like this when someone brings up the name:
Jack, my comment had to do with that kind mentality and that's it...
Regarding Starfield now : i really, really don't care brother, stopped enjoying Bethesda games since Skyrim for my own reasons so i really don't have a horse in this race, believe me
There's absolutely NOTHING wrong enjoying...whatever game a person enjoys, i mean, it's so silly that we have to even mention that but, here we are man.
The truth ? This topic was just created to stir shit up/gain reactionary replies IMO.
Cheers
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JackMcGunns
Member
One incident does not invalidate another
You're basically applying Sony too® logic right here.
JackMcGunns
Member
Jack, my comment had to do with that kind mentality and that's it...
Regarding Starfield now : i really, really don't care brother, stopped enjoying Bethesda games since Skyrim for my own reasons so i really don't have a horse in this race, believe me
There's absolutely NOTHING wrong enjoying...whatever game a person enjoys, i mean, it's so silly that we have to even mention that but, here we are man.
The truth ? This topic was just created to stir shit up/gain reactionary replies IMO.
Cheers
Was it after being charged for horse armor?
Not sold on the OP just doing it to stir things up, maybe it's just how he feels, I get that feeling sometimes, but I get where you're coming from.
Topher
Gold Member
One incident does not invalidate another
You're basically applying Sony too® logic right here.
I'm not suggesting anything is "invalidated". Your comic seems to suggest Starfield is being singled out. My point is simply that it isn't and I provided examples.
diffusionx
Gold Member
If you like the game you like the game, but Bethesda was very careful in the way they hyped and marketed the game to say it was something it was not. People expected something like Skyrim in NMS universe but got Skyrim broken up over thousands of loading screens.
People were calling this out basically immediately after it was widely available so I don't think it was the players that were wrong.
People were calling this out basically immediately after it was widely available so I don't think it was the players that were wrong.
ResilientBanana
Member
Those planets purpose is part of a resource management mechanic to harvest materials for upgrades for various equipment and facilities you build.
German Hops
GAF's Nicest Lunch Thief
keraj37
Member
100% right
Yeah, and I forgot to write in OP that I actually find it really great looking game also on my console (I heard it does look much better on PC max settings). It really looks stunning sometimes, especially in closed doors on my LG OLED screen.
Since I wrote the OP I already added around 30h to my playtime, and really didn't change my mind yet.
JackMcGunns
Member
The comic suggests exactly what it suggests, that mentioning Starfield even in its own fan circles, creates that reaction, in no way shape or form does it imply that it doesn't happen to other select few games, capice?
Topher
Gold Member
Then I misread the intent. Fair enough.
JackMcGunns
Member
100% right
Yeah, and I forgot to write in OP that I actually find it really great looking game also on my console (I heard it does look much better on PC max settings). It really looks stunning sometimes, especially in closed doors on my LG OLED screen.
Since I wrote the OP I already added around 30h to my playtime, and really didn't change my mind yet.
That's the weird thing about Starfield, there are instances where I'm stunned at how beautiful the game looks, the detail in some of the characters, monsters or scenary, but then there are parts of the game that look atrocious, I just can't put my finger on it, but it's that level of inconsistancy that makes it a mix bag in the graphics department, it can be a 10 at times, then drop to a 5 lol.
keraj37
Member
True, I forgot to write that indeed it looks sometimes very weak, like not even previous gen weak but PS360 era.
Punished Miku
Gold Member
Makes me optimistic for Elder Scrolls. This seems like a game in development throughout PS4 gen, and into this gen. If they don't advance at all graphically, and just get Elder Scrolls more consistently up to the best of Starfield, it'll look fantastic.
Jayjayhd34
Member
Wouldn't let it bother you i enjoy many games that review poorly by critics and gamers.
Think of games like art no one into art is going enjoy every art price and someone out there pay millions for somthing that most would laugh at
Having.opion that does fit the majority is lot better than letting certain trends to effect you thinking.
I deffo going back in it with more open mind when I finish my backlog
Think of games like art no one into art is going enjoy every art price and someone out there pay millions for somthing that most would laugh at
Having.opion that does fit the majority is lot better than letting certain trends to effect you thinking.
I deffo going back in it with more open mind when I finish my backlog
Gavon West
Spread's Cheeks for Intrusive Ads
Mediocrity?? Lol
You got dudes/ladies spending 100s of hours in this game. It's already winning awards, nominated for more (Dice) sold 4+ million on PC alone, racked up more Gamepass subs in a single day than any other in the history of the service and people are still talking about it and this is almost five months in.
At the end of the day your opinion is your own but, it doesn't apply universally. Not even almost.
newtypepilot
Member
You are free to enjoy crap, but everyone else is also free to mock you for enjoying crap.
CatLady
Selfishly plays on Xbox Purr-ies X
And there are 33 with 90+ scores that do not have Xbox or Windows or Achievements in their name 10 of those were scores of 100. What's your point?
Unknown Soldier
Member
Imagine thinking you're some special snowflake when this happens to Final Fantasy XVI every time it's mentionedBut you're invalidating someones experience without even knowing that persion or experiencing what they're going through, you're basically gaslighting the OP telling him it's all in his head.
As a heavey Starfield player and being part of many different groups Starfield related, I can tell you from my own personal experience that it looks like this when someone brings up the name:
Hero of Spielberg
Member
There’s nothing wrong, it’s a good game. Just some sad people have decided to dedicate their lives to shitting on it.
