According to a somewhat unreliable source , it includes this interesting rumors on PS4:
-Sony surveyed devs about doing a Wii style console and it came back hugely negative. So therefore "Larrabee" high end box was put back as an option, though not a necessity.
-For Larrabee in PS4, conflicting reports, one says it's ruled out, the other that it's still being evaluated.
-If it's a Larrabee system, it will only be Larrabee, no CPU.
-Sony plans to beat Xbox 3 to launch with PS4 regardless -(this seems suspect imo)
-Theres also PSP2 chatter in there and PSP2 is the alleged current gaming priority at Sony. Supposedly similar/small bump in power but with a lot of storage.
Regardless, strange that we've had more chatter about PS4 than Next box..not like the leaky MS..
Huge coup is true. I'm kind of with the rumormonger on the idea that Sony will shoot first next generation. I'm a little surprised at the idea of another complete change in architecture. I'd think that they'd want to maintain backwards compatibility. Of course, it could be that they're able to leverage what is a massively parallel CPU of a GPU into making PS1 and 2 compatibility a possibility in software.camineet said:found this on Beyond3D
http://forum.beyond3d.com/showthread.php?t=31379&page=25
According to a somewhat unreliable source , it includes this interesting rumors on PS4:
So is thread-shitting.aerts1js said:Threads about next generation consoles that are years away are so fucking annoying.
Cow Mengde said:Yeah... that about sums it up.
Also, their plan to beat the Xbox 3 to the punch contradicts what Sony's been saying all along. Not saying I put any stock into it, but do they really want to bleed money before they could be profitable with the PS3?
camineet said:found this on Beyond3D
http://forum.beyond3d.com/showthread.php?t=31379&page=25
Brimstone said:It was claimed that CELL was clocked up to 5Ghz range at 90nm node.
The IBM Power6 CPU which uses in order cores clocks up to 6Ghz at the 65nm node.
CELL 2.0 (8 SPUs) for the PS4 should be able to clock at 6.4Ghz on a mature 45nm node. This would allow for game developers to reuse their existing code base from the PS3. The console would be fully backwards compatible with PS3 software as well. The die size of this CELL CPU would be small so the cost would be low.
Are we talking about a 32 core revision?navanman said:I see from reading my internal intranet this morning, that Larrabee has taped out and is at A0 silicon. Its still several months away from the maket but should be ready for the market at the end of this year, early 2010 at 32nm node.
bmf said:Are we talking about a 32 core revision?
camineet said:found this on Beyond3D
http://forum.beyond3d.com/showthread.php?t=31379&page=25
Even the mods have noted problems with groupthink in the past. Having a minority opinion often means getting lynched by other posters.Log4Girlz said:When I suggested Sony drop the Cell in your thread about Larabee in the ps4 and just use Larabee and nothing else I was nearly crucified. Goddamn.
Log4Girlz said:When I suggested Sony drop the Cell in your thread about Larabee in the ps4 and just use Larabee and nothing else I was nearly crucified. Goddamn.
Trailblazer said:I highly doubt the PS4 will be a Larabee only. Even using larabee as a CPU with be horrible. Besides, why would Sony throw out their entire tool chain when they don't have too? Why toss the baby out with the bath water?
Cell in the PS4 is a Given. The only thing that not too certain is what type of GPU it'll have. Some sort of Larabee acting as a GPU while using Cell as a CPU could work, but backwards compatibility with PS3 games would be out.
I'm just not buying this Larabee rumor till i see it. Then again stranger thing have happened.
dreamcastmaster said:Ten year plan, lets see if Sony can stick to that.
David Reeves said:SCEE boss David Reeves has expressed uncertainty over the PS3's proposed 10-year-life span
During an interview in an upcoming issue of Play magazine, Reeves said Nintendo and Microsoft will have new models on the market before Sony would, but that he doesn't know whether the PS3's lifespan will be "eight, nine, or ten years."
"The competition will have new models on the market by the end of the PS3," commented Reeves. "I have no doubt and well have to be fast on our feet.....I dont know whether the PS3 lifespan will be eight, nine or ten years"
Sony has a history of throwing the baby out with the bathwater.Trailblazer said:I highly doubt the PS4 will be a Larabee only. Even using larabee as a CPU with be horrible. Besides, why would Sony throw out their entire tool chain when they don't have too? Why toss the baby out with the bath water?
Cell in the PS4 is a Given. The only thing that not too certain is what type of GPU it'll have. Some sort of Larabee acting as a GPU while using Cell as a CPU could work, but backwards compatibility with PS3 games would be out.
I'm just not buying this Larabee rumor till i see it. Then again stranger thing have happened.
mrklaw said:i don't get you guys sometimes.
Wii succeeded by being different, changing the game. So now eveeyone else will succeed by copying? Surely the lesson to take away from Wii is that you can't predict how things will pan out.
And stop with the lack of imagination. Was it this dull last gen? ""Oh PS3 will probably be an overclocked PS2".
As for Sony abandoning CELL - why? They've already taken the massive hit in development costs, teams are getting used to the achitecture, is perfectly suited to games processing, and the multicore approach is being widely adopted. Unless GPGPUs are massively faster and cheaper, I see Sony sticking with CELL
navanman said:I see from reading my internal intranet this morning, that Larrabee has taped out and is at A0 silicon. Its still several months away from the maket but should be ready for the market at the end of this year, early 2010 at 32nm node.
camineet said:found this on Beyond3D
http://forum.beyond3d.com/showthread.php?t=31379&page=25
Man, i completely forgot about that, never realized the number of posts per page I selected would effect others linking to a forumFirewalkR said:Took me a few minutes to figure you were using 75 posts per page. I modified my options now. It's like using 100 ppp here at GAF, it's the only way to fly. :lol
Nirolak said:They're already backing away from that:
Source: http://ps3.nowgamer.com/news/218/reeves-uncertain-over-ps3s-10-year-lifespan
bmf said:Huge coup is true. I'm kind of with the rumormonger on the idea that Sony will shoot first next generation. I'm a little surprised at the idea of another complete change in architecture. I'd think that they'd want to maintain backwards compatibility. Of course, it could be that they're able to leverage what is a massively parallel CPU of a GPU into making PS1 and 2 compatibility a possibility in software.
camineet said:I don't think Sony will totally change architecture. I think they'll keep CELL, and go with Larrabee for the GPU. I don't believe in the rumor about a Larrabee-only PS4.