Brobzoid said:
Horror films aren't scary and pretty shit, because the formula they all use is so ****ing old.
Just depends upon your frame of mind, as well as a will to allow them to scare you. Some people aren't affected by horror films and that's understandable because as your second point suggests, horror films are pretty shit because the formula most of them use is so ****ing old; this is something I agree with for the most part and it's really why I created the topic. How could the formula change? What would you do to change it personally?
In my opinion, the biggest reason why horror films are failures isn't really because of acting, writing, atmosphere, but because of the lack of subtlety. Many people believe Halloween is the scariest movie ever made (I'm one of them) and the concept is so simple: crazy guy escapes from a mental institution and then goes after his family for some reason unbeknownst to us. Some would call that a plot hole or lack of explanation or whatever, but I think it's brilliant because aside from him constantly being "killed" and coming back much like Jason Vorhees, it could happen to anyone despite probability. And the fact that no one knows why he's wanting to kill his family just adds to the mystery--and this, combined with the cinematography, editing, soundtrack, and so forth, sets up a pretty unnerving hour and twenty minutes of footage. Whether one agrees or not isn't the point because the film has factually disturbed a lot of people that have seen it.
I think horror films can work, it's just that not many directors and writers understand what can really disturb or bother the human mind. I think Carpenter tapped into that a bit with Halloween and I've yet to see it be replicated since.