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[BattleMonkey]

It's always highly inconsistent, theres tons of examples and scenes where spidey is knocked out by non supers or some thing random hitting him. Or getting hit by a brick and being unconscious for hours and missing one's wedding.....

 

[grimmiq]

He easily is. MCU doesnt have that many people around who could compete, everyone uses Gimmicks.

Easily? I haven't kept up on comics as much as I would've liked to, but in terms of pure strength, he's #3 despite Hulk, Red Hulk, She-Hulk, Red She-Hulk, Sentry, Thor, Namor, Juggernaut, Colossus, etc?

EDIT: MCU only? Completely missed that...then yeah, he's probably #3.

 

[Slayven]

Probably throw Groot and Drax in the top 5. At least for the good guys.

They nerfed Gamora so hard

 

[Pantaghana]

FWIW he is probably #3 in the MCU behind only Hulk and Thor.

What about The Thing, Collossus, Black Bolt and Namor?

[EDIT]:
Ah, the Ultimate universe. Don't know shit about that one. Didn't know those were absent there. Ignore me.

 

[GAMEPROFF]

Easily? I haven't kept up on comics as much as I would've liked to, but in terms of pure strength, he's #3 despite Hulk, Red Hulk, She-Hulk, Red She-Hulk, Sentry, Thor, Namor, Juggernaut, Colossus, etc?

She-Hulk, etc arent in the MCU

If you include all these others characters of course not.

 

[Camp Freddie]

When did Spiderman get so strong?

Listen Bud. He's got radioactive blood.

 

[Pai Pai Master]

What about The Thing, Collossus, Black Bolt and Namor?

None of those characters are in the MCU but sure in the comics they can challenge him.

 

[darkhunger]

What about The Thing, Collossus, Black Bolt and Namor?

MCU does not stand for Marvel Comic Universe

 

[GAMEPROFF]

None of those characters are in the MCU but sure in the comics they can challenge him.

And then he outsmarts them most of the time

Peter can be your worst enemy.

 

[guek]

She-Hulk, etc arent in the MCU

If you include all these others characters of course not.

Yeah. Spidey is a middleweight at best in the comics. He'll be higher on the scale in the MCU for sure though. Can't effin wait!

 

[Diprosalic]

they nerfed him in the movies but in CW he's a strong mofo.

 

[Pai Pai Master]

they nerfed him in the movies but in CW he's strong mofo.

So excited for that aspect alone. A Spider-Man who can actually clown the best around.

 

[grimmiq]

She-Hulk, etc arent in the MCU

If you include all these others characters of course not.

Haha, yeah I completely missed MCU in there. Drax should probably be up there, but they made him a bit pathetic in GotG.

 

[Angelus Errare]

The above old 70-80s newspaper comic, written by Stan Lee himself, gave some idea of Spiderman's strength level. He was... okay, just street level. He cannot flip tanks. Kingpin and Daredevil can give him trouble. This is the Spiderman I remembered as a kid. So the question... when did Spiderman get so strong until he could throw buildings and stop trains?

(repost from Civil War topic)

In any real scenario Peter would drop Matt so quick and easily.

 

[Pai Pai Master]

Haha, yeah I completely missed MCU in there. Drax should probably be up there, but they made him a bit pathetic in GotG.

He didn't get enough chances to show off, but he did crush one of those little robot gun turrets with his bare hands.

 

[guek]

He didn't get enough chances to show off, but he did crush one of those little robot gun turrets with his bare hands.

Gunn really needs to sell the "destroyer" moniker next time for Drax in vol. 2

 

[Nakho]

Spider-Man is a street level character but not his powers.

Most of these scenes where it shows his unbelievable power is due to Spider-Man being in a tough spot and getting a sort of adrenalin rush overcoming the hurdle.
There aren't that many situations (at least up to the 90's comics) where he can show his raw strength though.

I love this story. Great Doc Ock fight.

 

[Glass Rebel]

It's a shame what pop culture has done to Spidey/Peter.

 

[Diprosalic]

So excited for that aspect alone. A Spider-Man who can actually clown the best around.

it's the best seeing the 16yo clowning on the adults.

 

[BKatastrophe]

he stopped a whole train in spiderman 2.

people just forget because he's not really fighting anybody who is shown to have incredible physical strength.

I dunno. Goblin formula, Doc Ock's arms, and the Venom symbiote all granted pretty close to equivalent strength if I recall. I'm not gonna touch Sandman, because that's its own beast.

They nerfed Gamora so hard

I'll never forgive them for how badly they fucked up Ronan.

 

[Draft]

OP, he is lifting a bus. Just OK?

 

[gutter_trash]

 

[GreekWolf]

OP, he is lifting a bus. Just OK?

Not when he can lift a 60 ton tank

 

[grimmiq]

He didn't get enough chances to show off, but he did crush one of those little robot gun turrets with his bare hands.

True, a big problem is the lackluster villains too, can't show certain characters being absolute monsters when you need to make your C-List villains look strong. I still hope the X-Men and Fantastic 4 movies bomb every time just so we can get some more galactic threats in the MCU.

 

[Neverwinter27]

What about the time he received Captain Universe's powers?

 

[The Artisan]

When a radioactive spider bit him.

this.

 

[JC Lately]

Not when he can lift a 60 ton tank

Wasn't that when he had the Captain Universe powers though?

 

[The Elite]

What about the time he received Captain Universe's powers?

That's an entirely different set of powers.

Wasn't that when he had the Captain Universe powers though?

I think he got his CU powers fighting the Tri-Sentinel.

 

[Blade30]

What about the time he received Captain Universe's powers?

That doesn't really count since he got it accidentally for a day or so. Anybody would be that strong.

 

[AppleSeason]

He lifts that big thing in the back. In the 1960s.

I remember reading this in Marvel Classics (a collection of editor picked old sagas) and I kinda loved it, specially the last volume.

And that reminds me about this page which always comes to my mind whenever we talk about spider strenght:

 

[RS4-]

That would make sense. Fucking Gamora got the nerf stick so hard.

I guess we're not including minor characters like Lady Sif and the Warriors Three and such.

They nerfed Gamora so hard

http://static3.comicvine.com/uploads/scale_medium/0/2532/2432376-warlockinfinitywatch14_15.jpg

Probably because she's a woman, right?! But yeah, her not being that strong threw me off too.

I actually don't know how strong the Warriors Three are. I assume Volstagg is probably the strongest of the bunch?

 

[GreekWolf]

What about the time he received Captain Universe's powers?

Was that McFarlane's run? All I remember about that period is he punched Hulk so hard it shot him into outer space.

 

[grimmiq]

Wasn't that when he had the Captain Universe powers though?

Drax? Didn't he have the Power Gem, not Capt. Universe's powers? Or are you talking about Spidey?

 

[Slayven]

I dunno. Goblin formula, Doc Ock's arms, and the Venom symbiote all granted pretty close to equivalent strength if I recall. I'm not gonna touch Sandman, because that's its own beast.

I'll never forgive them for how badly they fucked up Ronan.

Black Panther is a nice apology

What about the time he received Captain Universe's powers?

That doesn't really count since he got it accidentally for a day or so. Anybody would be that strong.

He actually had them for a good while, like almost a year in real time.

Remember when he accidentually punched Joe fixit into orbit

 

[Battersea Power Station]

Put some hyphen in his name. Mods, please add the respeck to the thread title.

 

[entremet]

Is this stuff from the new trailer or something? I haven't watched it.

I thought Spidey being strong was common knowledge by now.

 

[IdreamofHIME]

he stopped a whole train in spiderman 2.

people just forget because he's not really fighting anybody who is shown to have incredible physical strength.

People forget? That scene is often brought up to dispute the quality of that movie.
Spider-Man stops a train with strength, but Doc Ock can take his unches to the face without his face turning to mush...even if Spidey is pulling his punches, there's still no bruising

 

[The Elite]

People forget? That scene is often brought up to dispute the quality of that movie.
Spider-Man stops a train with strength, but Doc Ock can take his unches to the face without his face turning to mush...even if Spidey is pulling his punches, there's still no bruising

Bruising/blood might not be something they wanted to get too graphic with.

Simple as that.

 

[Slayven]

Probably because she's a woman, right?! But yeah, her not being that strong threw me off too.

I actually don't know how strong the Warriors Three are. I assume Volstagg is probably the strongest of the bunch?

Oh yeah, they use to call him Volstagg The Mighty

 

[bengraven]

More like "when did he get so weak?"

He's always meant to have the strength of a spider equivalent to his size, much like Ant-Man. They just de-emphasized his strength over the years. Maybe because he's so small they were worried people would think it looked ridiculous.

But he's strong as fuck. Dude has to hold back to not kill criminals.

 

[Pai Pai Master]

Probably because she's a woman, right?! But yeah, her not being that strong threw me off too.

I actually don't know how strong the Warriors Three are. I assume Volstagg is probably the strongest of the bunch?

Well they're Asgardian warriors, and in the MCU we've been shown that an Asgardian like Lorelei who isn't even seasoned in combat is much, much stronger than the average human. I'd assume they're at least around Loki's level, meaning someone like Cap probably couldn't beat them one on one.

 

[grimmiq]

Is this stuff from the new trailer or something? I haven't watched it.

I thought Spidey being strong was common knowledge by now.

Pretty much,

Spoiler

In Winter Soldier, Cap gets overpowered by Buckey's metal arm, new trailer Spidey grabs his fist, mid punch, and turns his arm over so he can get a better look with 0 effort.

 

[TheOnlyOneHeEverFeared]

But thor gets knocked the fuck out by the hulk in the first avengers, so how are they in the same strength class?

 

[Blade30]

He actually had them for a good while, like almost a year in real time.
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Really? Hmm could be that I missed/skipped some issues then, although I remember that he didn't had it for long.

 

[More_Badass]

But thor gets knocked the fuck out by the hulk in the first avengers, so how are they in the same strength class?

Thor definitely didn't get knocked out by Hulk in the Avengers

 

[grimmiq]

But thor gets knocked the fuck out by the hulk in the first avengers, so how are they in the same strength class?

If 2 heavyweight boxers are an even match, do you think 1 can't knock the other one the fuck out with a cheapshot while they're not looking?

 

[Manmademan]

He got progressively stronger as he aged.

Mostly this. Power creep is a thing, but Parker in the 70s was mid to late teens.

He's about 35 now.

He's reluctant to use his full strength unless the situation is dire, but you could probably place him comfortably in the 20 to 30 ton range. Maybe more in extreme circumstances.

 

[Sesuadra]

But thor gets knocked the fuck out by the hulk in the first avengers, so how are they in the same strength class?

I'm just watching it again...when is that supposed to happen? Hulk punches him once and Thor flies out of the screen, yes. But knocked out?

 

[diaspora]

The man puts his hands through walls like paper.

Be afraid.

 

[Slayven]

More like "when did he get so weak?"

He's always meant to have the strength of a spider equivalent to his size, much like Ant-Man. They just de-emphasized his strength over the years. Maybe because he's so small they were worried people would think it looked ridiculous.

But he's strong as fuck. Dude has to hold back to not kill criminals.

Remember the 90s when pym was jacked for no good reason